Problems angband winxp

[smokie007]

Moin,

i've been playing angband & variants for some time. Every version (including 307s-309) runs fine until now. I don't know what have changed, but the versions 307s-309 don't want to run anymore. Older versions 305 & 306 and variants are running without problems. It seems to be a WinXP-Problem.
When i start angband.exe the process got started in the taskmanager. For short time the cursor shows the working sandclock and then ... nothing happens. The process keeps running, but no window was opened. It seems to me, that the "UI" couldn't been started.
I don't use any special options in angband (no graphics, just plain ascii) and i don't know something i installed, that should be the source of this error.
Is there any way to find the source of this error? Some debug-output or anything else? Am i the only one with this problem?

In hope for helping answers
greetings
smokie

[Mondkalb]

It can't be WinXP alone, because I have no problems with 3.06/3.09.
Could it be any anti-virus software or firewall?

[smokie007]

Just deactivated anti-virus and got no change. The only Firewall i use is the WinXP-thing and there seems to be no problems.
Thanks for every hint
smokie

[Lipa]

If I understand correctly, you've already played other (or even the same) variants under WinXP successfully? So all of the sudden, they stopped responding?

Or is this a fresh WinXP install, on which you can't get Angband to work?

[smokie007]

Hm,

the Windows-System runs for long time and every version (including 305 to 309) has been running perfectly. I don't know what happened, but from one day to another the versions 307s-to 309 (and oangband 110) don't show up anymore (the process is running). In the last time i don't play angband daily (or just , so i can't say what changed between status going to status not going. But the "oldies" 305 & 306 and the most of the variants are running. I think i have something installed (i don't think it was a windows update, but i don't really know) that starts the problem with the displaying of the game window. The main problem is: i don't know where to look.
I think some library (dll?) used for displaying angband has been overwritten (could it be the new gimp??) but this is just a shot into the dark...
So, what is the difference between 305, 306, variants & 307-309, oangband?

smokie

[Lipa]

I'm almost embarrassed to ask - you did try to redownload and reinstall the games, right?

Otherwise, I'm afraid I can't help you. I've never had any such problems with any of the Angband variants...

Good luck!

[smokie007]

Yes, i've downloaded it again (angband 309) and got the same result

[Mondkalb]

I had sometimes a similar error with display settings. I got an error message saying that something was to large or out of borders of the screen or whatever. I believe, this was related with the settings in the angband.ini.
Try to use settings from the angband.ini from the older working version.

[zaimoni]

I had sometimes a similar error with display settings. I got an error message saying that something was to large or out of borders of the screen or whatever. I believe, this was related with the settings in the angband.ini.
Try to use settings from the angband.ini from the older working version.

Or simply delete the current angband.ini and let angband regenerate it.

[Mondkalb]

But the creation seems to be part of the problem, if a fresh downloaded and installed version won't work.

[Nick]

I've had this problem with Oangband 110 on XP too. I've been blaming the savefile loading system, but maybe that isn't the problem after all. Windows seems to be making things increasingly difficult...

[Kandrew]

I get exactly the same problem. I download the game, unzip to a folder, run the exe and nothing happens. The service is running but no game. I'm running it on Vista. Tried running in XP compatibility and as an admin but no luck. 3.0.6 works fine but nothing after that.

[andrewdoull]

I get exactly the same problem. I download the game, unzip to a folder, run the exe and nothing happens. The service is running but no game. I'm running it on Vista. Tried running in XP compatibility and as an admin but no luck. 3.0.6 works fine but nothing after that.

There's an Unangband thread also relating to this. Apparently, removing all the *band versions you have, restarting and reinstalling them fixes it.

Andrew

[smokie007]

Well, it happens as it have to happen.
Yesterday i have booted my Windows, right after the Desktop was displayed i've clicked the shortcut to start angband. And mystically after a short while the angband windows popped up.
I waited until the System started all services and Programs, opened my Standardsoftware (Mail, Browser ...) and tried it again. And ... it started perfectly and fast, again. "Ok it could be ... well, yeah ... i don't know, try it again tomorrow."
And so i did. Today i booted Windows and waited until everything was started. Open the standards as everyday (read mail ...) and at last started angband. It started with no Problem and so it does hours later.
I've changed nothing. I tried it at the last days very often, but the only thing that happens was that running angband process without any window. In this state i've let it "run" longer times (over 1 hour) and no window comes up. I don't know why it runs perfectly now.

So, i hope that Problem don't show up again and if somebody find a reason why it happens... i like to hear.
Thanks for any clue until now
smokie

PS: I don't know that thread for unangband (i've searched just here, i think), but in my case un.*(wip7a) was running with ui and i didn't delete or "reinstall" (unpacking zips) any *Band or something else.

[zaimoni]

Ah...have seen a related problem with arbitrary variants. Windows eventually gets laggy assigning OS windows to *band, and then the lag gets too large causing a hang.
* Close all remaining *band windows
* CTRL-ALT-DEL to bring up the button that launches the Task Manager
* Move to the Processes Tab in Task Manager
* Right-click/End Process Tree on all *band executable images
* Wait about thirty seconds for Windows to reorient.