Way to show more on screen?

[Timo Pietilä]

What do you mean by that? I play on linux and can resize my screen.

Supported in PS3 I guess.

[buzzkill]

Supported in PS3 I guess.

Yep. The PS3 originally gave you the ability to install a secondary operating system. I guess hackers took advantage of this 'loop hope' and tried to exploit it to crack the PS3. Sony has since removed that ability.

[Casio]

Have you tried a) decreasing font size b) making the window bigger?

Sorry to revive a dead thread, but I just stumbled across this in an effort to find an answer to this same question. Running 3.4.1 on Mac OS X, and unfortunately decreasing font size automatically makes the window smaller, and then making the window bigger increases the font size again. Is there something particular to making this work on the Mac, or am I just being stupid? (Very possible!)

[Derakon]

Unfortunately the initial Cocoa port was simply written so that resizing the window changed the font size instead of the number of visible rows/columns. The person who wrote the Cocoa port is incommunicado, and none of the other devs are Cocoa experts. Myshkin is working on the problem, but it's a bit slow going. Rest assured that while this is the intended behavior (i.e. it's not technically a bug), you're not alone in considering it to be undesired behavior.

[Casio]

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

Next up: find (or compile) a console-based binary. I'm not a tile guy anyway.

Thanks again!

[ninmonkey]

Options -> graphics -> tile multiplier will also change the size of the tiles. Pretty sure mine started at least 2x or more.

[Cronk]

More Mac OS X windowing annoyances

Unfortunately the initial Cocoa port was simply written so that resizing the window changed the font size instead of the number of visible rows/columns. The person who wrote the Cocoa port is incommunicado, and none of the other devs are Cocoa experts. Myshkin is working on the problem, but it's a bit slow going. Rest assured that while this is the intended behavior (i.e. it's not technically a bug), you're not alone in considering it to be undesired behavior.

Well, that's disappointing. I am running into the same troubles: running on Mac OS X and annoyed by the window sizing and font relationships. I would like to use a graphical tile set, but to make those large enough to see reasonably well, the font then gets really large. I used to play this regularly on XP without any problems - the terminal would show additional columns instead of resizing the existing columns. (I guess, then, that the graphics tiles wouldn't increase in size, like I am desiring on the Mac in order to make them more visible.)

If you could remove the font elements from the window (specifically the character stats on the left), then you could just show those in a separate window (each term window can be individually sized/font-sized). But it doesn't look like you can. In the windowing options the main term window doesn't have ANY options turned on that you can then turn off.

-- J

[DaviddesJ]

So, there's no way at all in the Mac version to change the number of rows and columns in any of the windows? In addition to seeing a larger area in the main window, one of the things I really miss (compared to the Windows version I used to play) is being able to have other windows that take up only enough space for the information I need to see in them.

Any timetable for when this might be fixed? If modifying the behavior when I resize the window is too hard, what about pref file options that would let us specify the number of rows and columns in each window?

[Derakon]

The timetable is "as soon as someone who has a clue how the Cocoa frontend works can get in there and figure out how to fix it." Unfortunately nobody on the regular dev team (i.e. the kind of people who could commit to any kind of regular time frame) is qualified for the job, nor are any of them willing to put in the kind of time and effort needed to become qualified. Frontend work is not very popular at the best of times.

Molybdenum showed up out of nowhere to offer to work on the problem; that was six days ago, so it's a bit early to start asking if anything's come of it. So don't give up hope.

[Derakon]

Double-posting so people will see this; I put a copy of a nightly build up using the Carbon build (so, the version where resizing the window adds more rows/columns). This is current as of May 19th; it may be buggy but in my play I haven't noticed many issues. Better than people running 3.3.2, anyway. There will be some changes compared to 3.4; I don't have a change summary handy.

[Nick]

...and there's a Carbon build for actual 3.4.1 here.

[Pete Mack]

I used to think Apple was more friendly to devs than MSoft, but no longer. Apple now requires that you learn a really strange dialect to write any program for their OS.

MS is bad, but not (yet) as bad as that. (Except for Metro and RT. Those are seriously screwed up for casual developers.)

[scud]

Double-posting so people will see this; I put a copy of a nightly build up using the Carbon build (so, the version where resizing the window adds more rows/columns).

Excellent, thank you, etc.

*starts new game as priest*

Re bugs, are you interested in problems with Carbon or should us OSXers hold fire until Cocoa?

[Nick]

Re bugs, are you interested in problems with Carbon or should us OSXers hold fire until Cocoa?

Hey, if you find any, you may as well report them. Doesn't do any harm, makes you feel like you're contributing, etc. Someone may even fix them.

[scud]

...and there's a Carbon build for actual 3.4.1 here.

Wow. This seems significantly tougher than 3.3.2. Dwarf Priest Stumbo #1 managed to get killed by a mercenary walking to the shops. Stumbo #7 (or so) has made it to CL27/DL30 and has just found a ring of damage that takes him up to 30 points per round. Beorn is going to have to wait a while!

The *big* difference for me is the detoothing of the Ring of the Dog; previously I'd regularly wear two of them for the damage boost.

Compared to 3.3.2 there seem to be far fewer ego items around the place, and it appears that heavy armour is much more detrimental to SP than before. Potions of +/– are very thin on the ground, too.

You bastards.

One thing which does strike me a slightly 'buggy': as soon as I'd acquired a lantern all the flasks of oil seemed to disappear. I've actually had to return to base *twice* to fill up, having been through the full 15k of fuel. Not a problem now because I'm finding other lanterns fairly regularly, but I can't remember the last time I found a flask of oil in the wild.