Net Angband: alpha testing

[ekolis]

Haven't played yet, but the economy idea sounds intriguing... kinda reminds me of the old-school BBS "door games"!

I wonder if Angband or any other roguelike was ever ported to be a door game? Actually, I do remember "Legend of the Red Dragon 2" which was basically a roguelike, if I recall correctly... the first LoRD was just a bunch of menus, but LoRD 2 actually had maps and such you could walk around on!

Tradewars was kinda fun... for some reason the "modernized" versions with flashy graphics just weren't the same :P

[Magnate]

I think power based pricing is bad too.

Since power is supposed to equal utility, that's not entirely surprising.

[Atarlost]

If all things cost 0 GP to produce supply will be infinite because profit can be made at any nonzero price. Stores would buy nothing and everything would sell for 1 GP, and prices would only be that high because GP are atomic.

[konijn_]

If all things cost 0 GP to produce supply will be infinite because profit can be made at any nonzero price. Stores would buy nothing and everything would sell for 1 GP, and prices would only be that high because GP are atomic.

Indeed. Man, we need a comic or 2 about Angband Economics.

T.

[buzzkill]

Indeed. Man, we need a comic or 2 about Angband Economics.

What it really needs is it's own thread.

PLAY NetAngband!

[Whelk]

I was all excited to try this, but it seems to be down. "Expected to be back up by Feb 10th."

[buzzkill]

I was all excited to try this, but it seems to be down. "Expected to be back up by Feb 10th."

Yep, I been wondering about that too since my best V character ever is just hanging out there in the NetAngband world.

[d_m]

Sorry!

My work has been insane. I was forced to upgrade the server to new hardware and haven't restored the database yet.

If I don't get it back up soon feel free to harass me and I can email out a savefile.

[d_m]

Alright, it's back up.

Apologies again.

[RogerN]

Haven't played yet, but the economy idea sounds intriguing... kinda reminds me of the old-school BBS "door games"!

This is somewhat off-topic, but I used to *love* TradeWars. I even purchased one of the TradeWars helper terminals which could automate trading routes, automate exploration, display graphical maps of the universe, locate good trading pairs, etc... You might think that's cheating, but since *everyone* on the BBS also used it, it really just removed some of the tedium from the game

All this talk of economy reminds me of the Kingdom of Loathing, which is a comedic in-browser RPG. There are several thousand players who participate in the game's Mall, which allows anyone to sell just about any item at any price (although whether someone will buy the item at that price is another matter entirely).

The result is that you end up with two different classes of items in the mall.

The first type of item is the dirt cheap, oversupplied item. These are items which are found in greater quantities than you ever need, even when you're not looking for them. Consequently, even though these items are useful, the prices at the mall are the absolute lowest the game will allow. Everyone is trying to dump these items for any price they can get.

The second type of item is the extremely high-demand item. These items are extremely useful and purchased in large quantities by almost everyone. What's interesting (and somewhat intuitive) is that the prices for these items tend to hover just below what you would spend trying to obtain the item for yourself (you have a finite # of turns per day, so there's a cost associated with obtaining items even if you don't use consumables). Many players optimize their equipment for the sole purpose of obtaining these items as efficiently as possible, and it's nearly impossible to compete with their prices in the mall. They make a small profit by selling large volumes of these items to less well-developed characters who can't obtain the items as efficiently.

What's also interesting is how quickly prices fluctuate due to game changes. Prices can fluctuate pretty quickly when new items are added or when drop frequencies are changed. I lost a small fortune, in fact, when my #1 cash cow (Breathetastic Premium Canned Air) was effectively made obsolete by the addition of Twinkly Wads. Prices eventually dropped 50% for my precious canned air.

Oh, and for the record, I'm opposed to demand-based pricing in Angband

[buzzkill]

I logged in and it prompted me to start a new character rather than starting up with my old (still alive) one. If you can't reactivate/reinstate it for some reason, that's no problem, just email me the save at [deleted]. I hope I didn't screw it up.

[d_m]

I logged in and it prompted me to start a new character rather than starting up with my old (still alive) one. If you can't reactivate/reinstate it for some reason, that's no problem, just email me the save at [EMAIL REDACTED]. I hope I didn't screw it up.

You didn't mess anything up. I forgot that on the new server the "webband" user has a different UID, so 1050.buzzkill needed to become 1004.buzzkill.

Please try again and let me know if it works.

[buzzkill]

Please try again and let me know if it works.

Back to normal.

[buzzkill]

Has anyone been playing NetAngband lately. It's been unbearably lagging and sometimes hangs completely for me. It seems to be since the recent update. Is anyone else having similar problems?

[RogerN]

I've experienced some very bad pockets of lag, but it's not continuous. It's playable. When it's bad, though, it's really bad - five to ten seconds to register a key press.