Noob needs advice...

[Choronzon]

My first real character (level 28 human warrior) is having some problems. Mainly, I put on The Iron Helm of Gorlim without realizing the consequences. Now every dungeon level I enter I aggravate monsters and it has made things much harder. I also just tangled with someone (can't remember name offhand) that disenchanted my pike of westernesse a bit along with my other armor and I'm a bit discouraged all the way around. Should I keep this character?

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9716

[shawnosullivan]

character looks fine! don't be discouraged. get rid of the curse on gorlim and plow ahead. the disenchantment looks to have been pretty minor.
the disenchanter was probably ibun, mim, or khim. watch out for them (orange 'h')! especially as a warrior.

[PowerDiver]

Part of the learning process is getting as deep as you can. If you have a large time investment getting this deep, you should probably keep going.

Go back to town and buy a bunch of enchant armor scrolls. Then go down and explore early levels until you find a disenchanter. Then take off everything and stand next to it until Gorlim is disenchanted to +0. Then read a scroll, and if the curse is not broken get it disenchanted back to +0 and repeat.

[Choronzon]

It was Ibun.

I wasn't sure how to try and get rid of the Helm. I'll try your advice and see how it goes. Thanks again.

[Timo Pietilä]

It was Ibun.

I wasn't sure how to try and get rid of the Helm. I'll try your advice and see how it goes. Thanks again.

There is also rare scroll *remove curse* which gets rid of heavy curses like that one. Usually easier is to use enchant-method instead though.

[Timo Pietilä]

My first real character (level 28 human warrior) is having some problems. Mainly, I put on The Iron Helm of Gorlim without realizing the consequences. Now every dungeon level I enter I aggravate monsters and it has made things much harder. I also just tangled with someone (can't remember name offhand) that disenchanted my pike of westernesse a bit along with my other armor and I'm a bit discouraged all the way around. Should I keep this character?

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9716

You should be using lighter weapon. Lance gives you only one blow, dagger or something other light weapon gives you multiple blows, and that would be better than single blow from that lance.

Problem is that that is your only source for FA, so don't swap quite yet. Rings of Free Action should be rather common now, so use one instead of protection ring after you find one.

[fph]

You should be using lighter weapon. Lance gives you only one blow, dagger or something other light weapon gives you multiple blows, and that would be better than single blow from that lance.

Problem is that that is your only source for FA, so don't swap quite yet. Rings of Free Action should be rather common now, so use one instead of protection ring after you find one.

I think you missed the ring of FA in his home inventory.

Choronzon: swap it in ASAP - that ring of protection is nearly useless.

Also, as Timo said, that lance gives nice bonuses, but with a warrior you need to do as much melee damage as possible. Check how much damage (number of blows x damage/blow) you do with all weapons you have at home, using the "I" command, and go for the maximum one (I think Glamdring will be the winner -- or Rilia, depending on how many blows you get with it).

[Timo Pietilä]

I think you missed the ring of FA in his home inventory.

Oops, yes I did.

Choronzon: swap it in ASAP - that ring of protection is nearly useless.

Also, as Timo said, that lance gives nice bonuses, but with a warrior you need to do as much melee damage as possible. Check how much damage (number of blows x damage/blow) you do with all weapons you have at home, using the "I" command, and go for the maximum one (I think Glamdring will be the winner -- or Rilia, depending on how many blows you get with it).

He also lacks see_inv which Glamdring (IIRC) gives (easy to check). Othervise it could be the pick he has which actually would be the best weapon (+5 to STR, acid-brand). Those do not actually create earthquakes, because those weapons have small dice and chance to get earthquake is based on dice size. (this might have been changed in 3.1.1+ versions).

Rilia would be very good swap. *ID* it asap. You'll like it, even that it isn't best possible weapon.

[Choronzon]

Thanks for all the advice peeps. Unfortunately, I died and never could get Gorlim uncursed. It seems when you want something badly (enchant armour scrolls) it tends to never reload in the stores. Finally around 20+ scrolls loaded, so I bought them all... took forever to find a disenchanter eye around 250`, and over half the scrolls failed, while the rest failed to remove the curse. Maybe I did something wrong. For the record, I would spam around the eye until my to dam went to 0, then I would use a scroll of enchant armour, which either failed or raised the to dam to +1, then I would start over. To tedious and bored to do it all again, so I started diving again, deeper than before, tired and careless and frustrated, and died to something else I don't remember in a fit of rage . Also, I didn't use the FA ring because Gorlim gives you FA (doesn't it?), so I figured I might as well use the ring of protection.

This game is very addicting.

[Derakon]

Artifacts are harder to enchant than normal items (IIRC they're only 33% as likely to have enchantment occur). Also, all items get steadily harder to enchant as their plusses increase; the absolute limit is +15 but the practical limit is +9 or +10; past that point your odds of successfully enchanting anything are miniscule.

[Choronzon]

Got it. But what did I do wrong with the enchant armour scrolls? The only stat decreasing from the disenchanter eye was the to_dam. So when to_dam was 0, I would use a scroll which would either fail or give me +1 to to_dam, in which case I would spam around the dischanter a bit until I went back to 0 and try again. Is it just a rare chance it will uncurse Gorlim or was I doing something wrong?

[PowerDiver]

Got it. But what did I do wrong with the enchant armour scrolls? The only stat decreasing from the disenchanter eye was the to_dam. So when to_dam was 0, I would use a scroll which would either fail or give me +1 to to_dam, in which case I would spam around the dischanter a bit until I went back to 0 and try again. Is it just a rare chance it will uncurse Gorlim or was I doing something wrong?

It should have been to_ac, not to_dam, that you were enchanting.

You have a 50% chance to enchant an artifact at +0, and upon success I believe a 25% chance to break the curse. So missing out using 20 scrolls is bad luck but not extremely unlikely.

[Derakon]

Can you even use to-dam and to-hit on armor? I remember being royally peeved back in the day when e.g. Cammithrim got its special +8/+8 to-hit/dam disenchanted because there was no way to fix it. Has that been changed?

[Magnate]

Can you even use to-dam and to-hit on armor? I remember being royally peeved back in the day when e.g. Cammithrim got its special +8/+8 to-hit/dam disenchanted because there was no way to fix it. Has that been changed?

No. (padding)

[Timo Pietilä]

Got it. But what did I do wrong with the enchant armour scrolls? The only stat decreasing from the disenchanter eye was the to_dam. So when to_dam was 0, I would use a scroll which would either fail or give me +1 to to_dam, in which case I would spam around the disenchanter a bit until I went back to 0 and try again. Is it just a rare chance it will uncurse Gorlim or was I doing something wrong?

That sounds weird. It should have been AC, not to_dam that increased. Also all of those (except PVAL) are susceptible to disenchantment, so all of those should have decreased too.

Chance of breaking the curse is small, but it should not be zero. It is possible that you just got unlucky. I remember few times where I couldn't break the curse from Calris.