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  • PowerDiver
    Prophet
    • Mar 2008
    • 2820

    always m7a before detecting on new level

    It's kind of obvious, but I wasn't doing it.

    The pain of detecting a pack of time hounds just outside your light/infravision radius is lessened when they cannot breathe on you.
  • NeoWizard
    Adept
    • Dec 2008
    • 102

    #2
    Thanks, but my book 7 might not be the same as yours, so light my candle please, what is your book 7. So for the newbies outthere who do not know or do insciptions, you should right which one is book 7 (Mordenkainen).
    NeoWizard
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    • Magnate
      Angband Devteam member
      • May 2007
      • 5110

      #3
      It took me a few minutes to work out, but he's talking about Create Doors.
      "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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      • Lord Tom
        Apprentice
        • Nov 2009
        • 73

        #4
        Brilliant strategy for what I'd always considered a spell of marginal usefulness at best!

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        • Tatami
          Apprentice
          • Oct 2009
          • 59

          #5
          My troll paladin is in yer debt mate.

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          • PowerDiver
            Prophet
            • Mar 2008
            • 2820

            #6
            Originally posted by Tatami
            My troll paladin is in yer debt mate.
            Is that behavior where priests and paladins can use 'm' instead of 'p' still in the game? I consider that a bug. It's about muscle memory. When you switch from one type of spellcasting to the other, if you use a different letter you are much less likely to cast the wrong spell by old reflex.

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            • Magnate
              Angband Devteam member
              • May 2007
              • 5110

              #7
              Originally posted by PowerDiver
              Is that behavior where priests and paladins can use 'm' instead of 'p' still in the game? I consider that a bug. It's about muscle memory. When you switch from one type of spellcasting to the other, if you use a different letter you are much less likely to cast the wrong spell by old reflex.
              The muscle memory thing is non-negligible, but has to be balanced against the number of available keys. I added your point to http://trac.rephial.org/ticket/309.
              "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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              • PowerDiver
                Prophet
                • Mar 2008
                • 2820

                #8
                Originally posted by Magnate
                The muscle memory thing is non-negligible, but has to be balanced against the number of available keys. I added your point to http://trac.rephial.org/ticket/309.
                IMO this is a much bigger deal than e.g. the new "shoot at nearest target" command which is trivially done as a macro, or a separate squelch key when squelch can be combined with destroy, etc

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                • Jude
                  Adept
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 124

                  #9
                  If I'd had a spell like that, it could have saved my latest characters life (I was playing a variant though, and didn't have any dungeon-spellbooks to boot).

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                  • cofresi
                    Apprentice
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 52

                    #10
                    Create Doors is one of the key spells in my arsenal. I've used it to full effect since getting Mordekainen's Escapes (it's all in the name . It's the cheap/quick way to break LOS when confronted with breathers/summoners and can even be used to build a walled corridor to navigate around trick hallways (Q in an adjacent corridor). When resting I often build doors, cast rune and then rest: this can buy me an extra round if interrupted (note, Saruman rudely awakened my slumber once. Without the doors it would have been ugly).

                    The spell would be truly great if there were a way to lock the doors (a Wizard Lock spell) that locks adjacent doors. or if the doors were locked to all others but the mage. I once considered carrying spikes for this purpose but being a gnome this was moot. Other variants have a spell called 'wall of fog' which i think serves the same purpose of breaking los. plus there would not be the disadvantage of foes opening adjacent doors just to summon.

                    Anyhow, locked magic doors would be a boon to mages. or the ability to create closed doors above broken/open doors that are not occupied.

                    That said, I'll definitely be casting doors before detection when diving from now on. Good suggestion.
                    He once had an awkward moment with a Morgoth, just to see what it felt like. Should he ever be cut, rubies would spill from his veins.

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                    • Hariolor
                      Swordsman
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 289

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cofresi
                      Create Doors is one of the key spells in my arsenal. I've used it to full effect since getting Mordekainen's Escapes (it's all in the name . It's the cheap/quick way to break LOS when confronted with breathers/summoners and can even be used to build a walled corridor to navigate around trick hallways (Q in an adjacent corridor). When resting I often build doors, cast rune and then rest: this can buy me an extra round if interrupted (note, Saruman rudely awakened my slumber once. Without the doors it would have been ugly).
                      nice idea, I like!


                      The spell would be truly great if there were a way to lock the doors (a Wizard Lock spell) that locks adjacent doors. or if the doors were locked to all others but the mage. I once considered carrying spikes for this purpose but being a gnome this was moot. Other variants have a spell called 'wall of fog' which i think serves the same purpose of breaking los. plus there would not be the disadvantage of foes opening adjacent doors just to summon.
                      Love the wall of fog option. I also agree that the doors should begin heavily jammed (the early and cheap destroy doors spell would be an obvious way for the mage to deal with this - or flag them as unjammed for the mage only, if possible)

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