Playing 3.1.1 for the first time...

**dhegler** · September 28, 2009, 12:27

FYI, my problem with the scrolling is because I find that it cuts off rooms sometimes at the end of a screen and I cannot see the entire room at once like I used to be able to do, hiding monsters and goodies...

**Marble Dice** · September 28, 2009, 16:11

Store UI was changed to be more compatible with mouse input, but this has been a polarizing change, and many people do not like it and think it's inconsistent with the rest of the command behavior in the game.

Unfortunately I don't think you can set scroll distance currently, so it's auto-center or inconvenient scrolling. If using the latter, the monster list can help a bit, at least so you know if you can see some baddies in the portion of the visible dungeon that is off-screen.

Pretty sure the prompt to pickup option was removed, since you can emulate the same behavior by pressing 'g' any time you move over an item you want to pick up (instead of pressing 'y'). Also you don't have to cancel a prompt this way when you don't want to pick something up.

I'm not sure about command interruption but that sounds handy if it's possible. I'm always wary of just holding a button down - always worried a drolem is going to spawn, wake, and breathe before I can react.

The new pseudo system takes a bit of getting used to, but in general I think it's great. Normal items pseudo as "average", items with pluses or minuses are "magical", ego items are "ego", and artifacts are "special." Once an ego item is wielded, it becomes "splendid" or "excellent" depending on if it has obvious bonuses (+stats or speed, branded, etc) or not.

**dhegler** · September 28, 2009, 16:45

I saw something about mouse commands, like moving your character. This change seems almost like me going from developing film to digital (took me YEARS to finally get a digital SLR!)

Is there any key to auto-center the screen? If not, that should be a must-have now...

Monster list? Hmmm... I assume that is a term window that I am not using? I'll check it out.

"g" prompts for pickup? I can live with that I guess...

Command interrution would be great for searching. I see something like that was put in for removing rubble (and I assume any digging, but I'm a mage, so I have stm spell....)

So, I can wield the items to get a better flavor of it? What is the distinction between splendid and excellent? I would be worried of wielding a cursed "magical" item, but identify takes care of that.

**dhegler** · September 28, 2009, 16:52

Also, just wondering, is there much/any chance of fire destroying my spellbooks? Has that changed at all? I remember the last time I tried a mage, I always ended up carrying 2-3 spellbooks per slot just in case. I assume that can still happen...

**dhegler** · September 28, 2009, 16:55

Your comment just made me realize that when I cast ANY detect spell, it shows up on my overhead view, even if not on the current visible screen... If the grid was now Y x Z large, is there any option to make it Y+10 x Z+10 large? Basically, so I can see more of the map on my playing screen?

**dhegler** · September 28, 2009, 16:58

Just found BoS in a chest at dlvl 9! Never found them so low before....

Also, is there any way to auto-inscribe objects??? Looks like there is. And if I start to understand what this squelching is, I may be a very happy person...

**ekolis** · September 28, 2009, 17:16

Autocenter is Ctrl-L, I think... and there's also an option to auto-center the player every move.

The monster list can be placed in a term window, yes, and it can also be invoked from some keyboard command or other... maybe [ or ] or |, I forget...

Since when does g prompt for pickup? Must have your pickup options set weird...

Splendid means it's an artifact, IIRC, or maybe just a really powerful ego item; I'm not sure. Excellent is lots of pluses, or maybe a weaker ego item. Oh, Marble Dice explained that just before you posted :P

You should be able to press M right after casting a detect to get the level map with detected stuff shown on it. If you want to see more of the screen at once without resorting to the map, you'll have to reduce your font size or increase your screen resolution!

One thing that's always irked me about detects though is that you see the area of effect for un-ID'd detect scrolls, and yet even afterwards, the scroll is not ID'd! So you know it's a "detect something" but you don't know what it detected??? Seems like a bit of a quirk to me...

**fizzix** · September 28, 2009, 17:25

a couple things.

As Marble Dice pointed out, the visible monster terminal is useful. I would also put in a pitch for the visible object terminal. It allows you to make sure you don't miss useful items in the dungeon that you've detected. I generally use subterminal windows for visible monsters, visible objects, monster recall and previous messages.

The shop interface is clunky at first, but like anything else, you get used to it. I definitely bought things I didn't intend to my first couple games with the new UI.

I don't know about the keyword for centering the map. but you should be able to make a macro that turns on the center map continually, refreshes the screen, and then turns it off.

**dhegler** · September 28, 2009, 17:45

Great answers. If I change the font smaller, it does not show me more dungeon squares, just makes it smaller, unless I am missing something...

Thank to all!

**ekolis** · September 28, 2009, 18:24

Odd, the window shrinks too, and you can't resize it? What OS are you playing on? The Windows port lets you resize the window to whatever size you want...

**Marble Dice** · September 28, 2009, 18:34

The 'g' command picks up an item from the ground. It is functionally similar to the old auto-prompt however: compare walking over an item, getting prompted, and pressing 'y' to just walking over an item, getting a message, and pressing 'g' (if you want it).

To increase your dungeon screen size (resolution), edit angband.ini and look for the "NumCols" and "NumRows" lines.

Fire does indeed still destroy the first 4 spell books, fortunately the last 5 are immune to destruction while in the inventory (but not immune to theft).

Auto inscription is available from the object knowledge menu: press '~', go to object knowledge, select an item, then use the inscribe key '{' to give it an auto inscription. Most useful for spell books, scroll/rod of recall, and ammo IMO.

For squelching, first go to options '=' then Interface options, and enable "hide_squelchable." Then you can adjust item squelch settings from '=' 'S' and '=' 'S' 'Q'

**dhegler** · September 29, 2009, 12:13

I don't think I understand the auto-inscribe feature... It would be nice for everything (or at least artifacts) to be auto-inscribed with depth or monster who carried it. Are you saying I just need to put an { symbol int eh object knowledge screen for each item? I will try the numcols and numrows code today... That will be great, especially with dual-monitors where I have plenty of desktop...

**Eagle** · September 29, 2009, 14:06

Auto inscribe doesn't write which monster did drop the artifact.
As said it is very usefull to inscribe books, ammo, rods.

Example:

Inscribe all Magic for Beginners with @1.
Then create a macro for F1-key with this keys: m1a*t

This will shoot a magic missile with every F1 press. Using the inscription is smart, because the macro: maa*t will normaly shoot a magic missile AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE MAGIC FOR BEGINNERS in your inventory! Because this will conjure magic from just the first book in your inventory!

Another inscription I allways use is auto-inscribing ammo with @2, in combination with a missile-shooting macro.

I also inscribe all good backpack stuff with !f!d!s so I can not accidentally throw, drop or sell them (like staf/rod of teleport).

Finally I tend to inscribe precious wielded equipment with !t, so I will not accidentaly take them off! This did occur because of the targetting 't' in my macro's (when the spell failed, the engine parses it as 'take off' instead of 'Target').

**fizzix** · September 29, 2009, 14:19

Originally posted by Eagle

Auto inscribe doesn't write which monster did drop the artifact.
As said it is very usefull to inscribe books, ammo, rods.

Example:

Inscribe all Magic for Beginners with @1.
Then create a macro for F1-key with this keys: m1a*t

This will shoot a magic missile with every F1 press. Using the inscription is smart, because the macro: maa*t will normaly shoot a magic missile AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE MAGIC FOR BEGINNERS in your inventory! Because this will conjure magic from just the first book in your inventory!

Another inscription I allways use is auto-inscribing ammo with @2, in combination with a missile-shooting macro.

I also inscribe all good backpack stuff with !f!d!s so I can not accidentally throw, drop or sell them (like staf/rod of teleport).

Finally I tend to inscribe precious wielded equipment with !t, so I will not accidentaly take them off! This did occur because of the targetting 't' in my macro's (when the spell failed, the engine parses it as 'take off' instead of 'Target').

I'd suggest a little improvement to your macros. Inscribe all your books with @m1@b1@g1, @m2@b2@g2 etc. This way your magic for beginners book isn't tied to the number 1, but is only 1 when preceded by the normal magic commands. Then you can inscribe your ammo @f1, @f2 etc. I generally wind up inscribing detection rods at @z1, @z2 also, since I use them a *lot*

Lastly, another useful inscription for artifacts and or rods is !! which will message you when they are recharged.

Any other useful isncriptions that I'm missing?

Playing 3.1.1 for the first time...

Playing 3.1.1 for the first time...

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