great finds early on in 1599

[nobody]

how about this for lucky? today i started a new character in r1599 and at 850' found two holy avengers (dagger and trident), a short bow of extra shots, and a staff of tele, not to mention a soft leather armor of resist acid. DOOMED

[Sirridan]

how about this for lucky? today i started a new character in r1599 and at 850' found two holy avengers (dagger and trident), a short bow of extra shots, and a staff of tele, not to mention a soft leather armor of resist acid. DOOMED

DLVL 18 in 1624

2 longbows of extra shots
A Kelek's Grimoire of Power (drops usually at DL 90+) and an orc pit, and several various weak egos that gave good money. Oh and a potion of !str.

[nobody]

oops i didn't mean 850' i meant 400' two longbows and a grimoire is pretty lucky too

[Pete Mack]

All very nice. But you can only use one weapon at a time--I'd take BoSpeed +8 over the whole lot, any day... Especially today -- dl 99 and speed +11

[Djabanete]

All very nice. But you can only use one weapon at a time--I'd take BoSpeed +8 over the whole lot, any day... Especially today -- dl 99 and speed +11

Aha, but what if you were to find various weapons, each useful in a different situation... a weapon of Slay Orc against the orcs, a weapon of Slay Troll against the trolls, and a weapon of Cold against the Fire Hounds... surely such an arsenal would be better than a few points of speed!

[Hariolor]

yeah, but cumbersome

[pampl]

Maybe I've been unlucky with speed but I'd take BoS +8 over a few low-level ego weapons any day. I mean, a weapon of Westernesse is better than all those combined, and then you've got artifact weapons to consider...

[PowerDiver]

Maybe I've been unlucky with speed but I'd take BoS +8 over a few low-level ego weapons any day. I mean, a weapon of Westernesse is better than all those combined, and then you've got artifact weapons to consider...

Heck, I'd happily trade the 3 egos in the original message [not westernesse] for boots of speed (+1).

[Pete Mack]

Heck, I'd happily trade the 3 egos in the original message [not westernesse] for boots of speed (+1).

I'd probably keep a good HA (with high damage bonus) over BoSpeed(+1). A Trident (1d8) "Holy Avenger" (+9,+16) [2](+1) does pretty good damage, once you get 3 or 4 blows. But at shallow depth, the chances of damage bonus >= 10 are pretty remote.

EDIT
BTW: I chose BoSpeed +8 as a lucky early find because I actually found them once as a starting character. My character dump (for a Ranger) showed something like:

Speed:  8
....
a) a War hammer (3d2) {good}
b) a Longbow (x3) (+0,+0)
c) Nothing
d) Nothing
e) Nothing
f) a Torch (1700 turns)
g) Soft leather armor [4,+0]
h) Nothing
...
l) Soft Leather boots {good}

[Tatami]

I just found boots of speed+4 at dlevel five playing todays nightly. My previous lvl 38 diverrogue had no speed beyond potions till the lernean hydra incinerated me.

[Tatami]

You have a good feeling about this level.

I guess gnomes are hard to please.