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  • Donald Jonker
    Knight
    • Jun 2008
    • 593

    Towards an eco-friendly 3.1

    Well I think it's pretty clear by now that there's an elephant in the room conjured by the newly released Vanilla 3.1 that nobody really wants to talk about. Uncomfortable though it may be, it needs to be addressed now rather than later, before further damage is done.

    I'm referring, of course, to the fact that torches are now generated with a default charge equal to their maximum capacity.

    We have all, doubtless, noticed that when a torch dims down to a 1-radius square of light, combining it with another torch fully refuels it, wasting thousands of turns of torch-wood, and emptying the forests surrounding Angband Town of their natural sylvan splendor and contributing the general diminution of species. This is an issue that affects us all, and I think we can agree that we should do what we can to hand over a healthy planetary environment intact to our children and our children's children.
    Bands, / Those funny little plans / That never work quite right.
    -Mercury Rev
  • Narvius
    Knight
    • Dec 2007
    • 589

    #2
    Yeah, of course, elephants!
    We all like elephants. That's why we need to protect our mountain forests!

    Seriously. I rarely ever buy any torches, the starting amount is enough and keeps me going until lantern or death.
    If you can convincingly pretend you're crazy, you probably are.

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    • CunningGabe
      Swordsman
      • Feb 2008
      • 250

      #3
      Though this is probably silly of me, given how little torches cost, when the torch I'm holding dims, I simply swap in a fresh one. Then, when the fresh one has burned down enough, I refuel it using the old one.

      With just a few small steps, you can save money AND the forests. Everybody wins.

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      • Narvius
        Knight
        • Dec 2007
        • 589

        #4
        Hey, now that's an economic option.
        Haven't even thought of that =D
        If you can convincingly pretend you're crazy, you probably are.

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        • Donald Jonker
          Knight
          • Jun 2008
          • 593

          #5
          Originally posted by CunningGabe
          Though this is probably silly of me, given how little torches cost, when the torch I'm holding dims, I simply swap in a fresh one. Then, when the fresh one has burned down enough, I refuel it using the old one.

          With just a few small steps, you can save money AND the forests. Everybody wins.
          So I'm *not* the only one!
          Bands, / Those funny little plans / That never work quite right.
          -Mercury Rev

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          • Arendil
            Apprentice
            • Jun 2007
            • 78

            #6
            Originally posted by CunningGabe
            Though this is probably silly of me, given how little torches cost, when the torch I'm holding dims, I simply swap in a fresh one. Then, when the fresh one has burned down enough, I refuel it using the old one.

            With just a few small steps, you can save money AND the forests. Everybody wins.
            No, not really. Half the time, you use two inventory slots just for torches...

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            • Rizwan
              Swordsman
              • Jun 2007
              • 292

              #7
              Originally posted by CunningGabe
              Though this is probably silly of me, given how little torches cost, when the torch I'm holding dims, I simply swap in a fresh one. Then, when the fresh one has burned down enough, I refuel it using the old one.

              With just a few small steps, you can save money AND the forests. Everybody wins.
              Or just wait until it runs aiut and then refuel. The reduction in light radius should not seriously affect you if you are playing cautiously ie detecting and running away

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              • Jungle_Boy
                Swordsman
                • Nov 2008
                • 434

                #8
                Originally posted by Rizwan
                Or just wait until it runs aiut and then refuel. The reduction in light radius should not seriously affect you if you are playing cautiously ie detecting and running away
                Ah, but what if you are not playing carefully?
                My first winner: http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=10138

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                • tigpup
                  Apprentice
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 94

                  #9
                  Perhaps going down with no wood-burning or oil-burning source is better (ie: blind until phial). At some point ones sense of smug, tree-hugging, self-rightoutness is bound to 'illuminate' the surroundings.

                  -Neil

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                  • pav
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 793

                    #10
                    ... and in ecoAngband you need to carry used scrolls back to Town for recycling
                    See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz

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                    • tigpup
                      Apprentice
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 94

                      #11
                      > you cash-in 12 empty potion bottles {tried}
                      > your reward is a scroll of acquirement
                      > your charisma enters a state of flux

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                      • Rizwan
                        Swordsman
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 292

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jungle_Boy
                        Ah, but what if you are not playing carefully?
                        Well in that case you are dying

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                        • The Sparrow
                          Scout
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 38

                          #13
                          Maybe it is just me, but is slaughtering much of the local fauna not very eco-friendly?

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                          • Big Al
                            Swordsman
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 327

                            #14
                            I would imagine that Morgoth's armies of orcs and such aren't terribly friendly to the environment, so really killing a few of the "local fauna" is quite justifiable, if it will help you defeat him...
                            Come play Metroplexity!
                            Un, V MX H- D c-- f- PV s- d+ P++ M+
                            c-- S I++ So+ B+ ac- !GHB SQ RQ+ V+

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                            • Nick
                              Vanilla maintainer
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9634

                              #15
                              The thing that puzzles me is where the wood comes from in the first place, given that the universe consists of a dungeon and a town surrounded by impenetrable walls.
                              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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