(not) running into molds

[half]

There was recently a post about modifying the 'run' algorithm to avoid running into immobile monsters like molds. I had a look at the algorithm and one just needs to add the following to run_test() before it goes into the part where it looks for an open area. I've tested it and it seems to work well.

	/* Look at every soon to be newly adjacent square. */
	for (i = -max; i <= max; i++)
	{		
		/* New direction */
		new_dir = cycle[chome[prev_dir] + i];
		
		/* New location */
		row = py + ddy[prev_dir] + ddy[new_dir];
		col = px + ddx[prev_dir] + ddx[new_dir];
		
		/* Visible immovable monsters abort running */
		if (cave_m_idx[row][col] > 0)
		{
			monster_type *m_ptr = &mon_list[cave_m_idx[row][col]];
			monster_race *r_ptr = &r_info[m_ptr->r_idx];
			
			/* Visible monster */
			if (m_ptr->ml && (r_ptr->flags1 & (RF1_NEVER_MOVE))) return (TRUE);
			
		}
	}

[takkaria]

There was recently a post about modifying the 'run' algorithm to avoid running into immobile monsters like molds. I had a look at the algorithm and one just needs to add the following to run_test() before it goes into the part where it looks for an open area. I've tested it and it seems to work well.

Thanks for this, when I go through fixing bugs in 3.1, I'll get this in.

[Magnate]

Thanks for this, when I go through fixing bugs in 3.1, I'll get this in.

Has this already been done? Looking at pathfind.c, there is some very similar code in it now (r1402), but it is applied to *any* visible monster, rather than just those with NEVER_MOVE.

So does anything else need to be changed?

[takkaria]

Has this already been done? Looking at pathfind.c, there is some very similar code in it now (r1402), but it is applied to *any* visible monster, rather than just those with NEVER_MOVE.

So does anything else need to be changed?

Hm, there should be a ticket for it somewhere, but I can only guess the answer is "no" because I don't remember doing it.

[Cauldron]

Hallelujah, cause I lost my last character to a Trapper in the middle of a room. Killt me in 1 step.

-P

[Magnate]

Hm, there should be a ticket for it somewhere, but I can only guess the answer is "no" because I don't remember doing it.

It's ticket #700, and I think I'm failing to understand the changes proposed in this thread. Perhaps what is needed is an additional code block as posted above, which comes before (or after) the existing code block about visible monsters. So that we look one square further away for immobile monsters. Maybe.

[will_asher]

Seems like it'd be easier to add something in update_mon() which makes it disturb you whenever you're adjacent to a (visible) monster. (That's what I was going to do to address the same problem)

[Magnate]

Seems like it'd be easier to add something in update_mon() which makes it disturb you whenever you're adjacent to a (visible) monster. (That's what I was going to do to address the same problem)

But by the time you're adjacent to a monster, it's too late. I think the existing code already does that. I think the suggestion proposed by the OP is to look one square further away and stop *before* we step adjacent to a monster. Since running no longer cuts corners, this should be legitimate - you'd stop in the corner if the floating eye was two squares from it, the moment it became visible.

I just don't understand how the OP's code should be applied to the existing code, as it's not in patch format.

[Magnate]

But by the time you're adjacent to a monster, it's too late. I think the existing code already does that. I think the suggestion proposed by the OP is to look one square further away and stop *before* we step adjacent to a monster. Since running no longer cuts corners, this should be legitimate - you'd stop in the corner if the floating eye was two squares from it, the moment it became visible.

I just don't understand how the OP's code should be applied to the existing code, as it's not in patch format.

I finally worked it out. The OP wasn't talking about running into molds/eyes as you round corners - that was already working. He was talking about running into molds that you can already see. It never occurred to me that anyone would run towards a mold they could already see, so I didn't understand what he was getting at.

Fixed in r1413 - thanks for the patch.

[PowerDiver]

It never occurred to me that anyone would run towards a mold they could already see,.

You've never run into a monster you didn't notice?

Damned youngsters with perfect vision and attention to detail can't understand the problems of dotards playing while under the influence of one too many Guinness.

[Magnate]

You've never run into a monster you didn't notice?

Damned youngsters with perfect vision and attention to detail can't understand the problems of dotards playing while under the influence of one too many Guinness.

Heh, and there's me thinking I had about a decade on you.

To be pernickety, I've never *run* into a monster I didn't notice - but I have walked into many. Only yesterday I opened a door to one of those 2x2 pit rooms, greedy to get the unaware potion, and walked straight into the death mold that was sitting on it. I actually pressed the key to walk into the doorway, despite having detected monsters only a few turns before. My only defence is that the death mold hadn't shown up in red on the monster list, so I hadn't clocked it (this was at 2450').

Ho hum.

[PowerDiver]

Heh, and there's me thinking I had about a decade on you.

Some of us lose our minds earlier than others. It's not just years. I'm mid-40s.

[Magnate]

Some of us lose our minds earlier than others. It's not just years. I'm mid-40s.

I'm just the other side of 40, but only by a matter of months ...