How easy are these pits?

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  • Talharim
    Apprentice
    • Jul 2015
    • 57

    How easy are these pits?

    So i have this char and these pits:



    For some reason, the image doesn't appear: https://imgur.com/a/FCh4Mf6

    Should I bail out? Or are they doable? I think I killed a bunch of mobs from the lower pit, a bunch of hydras and two spirit nagas. The spirit nagas seemed tough.
    Cowards live a long time, brave ones usually die soon of a glorious death.
  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    #2
    Ant pits are always doable. But they are also a total waste of time. (Midlevel undead pits used to be similar. Nowthey are utterly deadly as they're still full of no-longer-harmless white wraiths.)

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    • Sky
      Veteran
      • Oct 2016
      • 2321

      #3
      walk around until you get the full level feeling - is there anything worth looking for ? Because if you get idk LF 9-4 then you can just leave.
      "i can take this dracolich"

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      • Estie
        Veteran
        • Apr 2008
        • 2343

        #4
        Even with a good item feeling I would probably leave, unless I had some way to quickly get to the items like a ? of mass banishment.

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        • Talharim
          Apprentice
          • Jul 2015
          • 57

          #5
          What is the preferred way then? Only explore levels with what kind of level feelings? x-y with y at which minimum value? So you want to maximize y whilst keeping x at a minimum?

          I have found very good objects (one of the thanc daggers at very low levels) with a LF of *-5
          Cowards live a long time, brave ones usually die soon of a glorious death.

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          • Estie
            Veteran
            • Apr 2008
            • 2343

            #6
            5 is indeed an important value, as it is the minimum if there is an artifact lying around.

            The value that decides whether I stay or take the stairs depends on the dungeon depth. On lvl1, a 3 will do it - a cloak of stealth for example may cause a 3 and is worth exploring for.

            Later on, its 5 or higher; in the lategame, I am looking for vaults and look mostly at the monster feeling. 8+ means I am going to investigate.

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            • mrfy
              Swordsman
              • Jul 2015
              • 328

              #7
              Originally posted by Talharim
              Should I bail out? Or are they doable? I think I killed a bunch of mobs from the lower pit, a bunch of hydras and two spirit nagas. The spirit nagas seemed tough.
              Doable. Hydra pits can be tough unless you can freeze them, I like to lure them out a few at a time and destroy them. Ants can be worth a lot of XP depending on your character level.

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              • ewert
                Knight
                • Jul 2009
                • 702

                #8
                Floor finds yeah you could just explore until you get level feeling, and leave if it is 4 or less. However one of my somewhat recent winners I think only had one single gear that was a floor find, everything else was drops.

                Certain level ranges and certain monster types are very valuable, a pit of demons that you could easily handle (with a 1-1 LOS cranny tunneled) for example is definitely worth doing in my opinion. A pit of low level demons unless you happen to be carrying a teleport stop curse item early on is a definite nono usually, summon-to-them confusing blinding demons, yeah, no. XD Pits of dragons you have immunity to is awesome. In stat gain, just packs of humanoids/orcs/trolls is nice to mow through. Etc.

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                • Sky
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2321

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Estie
                  Even with a good item feeling I would probably leave, unless I had some way to quickly get to the items like a ? of mass banishment.
                  the LF doesnt work 100% well in angband. if you get 2 pits you will often get a very high rating that does not reflect the risk of the level. Ants for example are pretty easy, if you have sSTR they are almost trivial. When you have the chance to pick up an artifact or OOD item for very little work, you should take it.
                  "i can take this dracolich"

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