.. do "fake" rings (monsters) affect level feeling??

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  • Sky
    Veteran
    • Oct 2016
    • 2321

    .. do "fake" rings (monsters) affect level feeling??

    i am on DL38 and i got a LF 4-9, so obviously i decided to pop my one and only !Enlight, and here is the stuff i found.

    1. seeker bolts +0, no slay
    2. a heavy crossbow +0
    3. a "ring of speed" that actually turned out to be a monster.

    I just barely got onto the level, so i doubt any mob could have picked up a dungeon book, i have Excellent stealth so everything should be asleep.

    How do ring mobs work?
    Do item rings have a % of becoming monsters?!?

    At this depth a LF 9 i expect it to be a ring of speed +13 *at least*.
    "i can take this dracolich"
  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    #2
    Any un-Ided consumables? Those count, to.

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    • Sky
      Veteran
      • Oct 2016
      • 2321

      #3
      no that was it, i literally listed ALL the items on the ground.
      I even double checked by launching a second instance of the game, popped !E right away, and this is all that was generated.
      "i can take this dracolich"

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      • wobbly
        Prophet
        • May 2012
        • 2633

        #4
        Mimics are generated the same way as other monsters and don't change the loot part of level feelings. You aren't on a gauntlet level? I'd assume you'd notice if a chunk of the map was missing.

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        • Selkie
          Swordsman
          • Aug 2020
          • 434

          #5
          Originally posted by Sky
          no that was it, i literally listed ALL the items on the ground.
          I even double checked by launching a second instance of the game, popped !E right away, and this is all that was generated.
          Just three items?

          Also, fake rings and potions of experience etc don't count towards level feelings. It's one of the ways I know a ring of speed is a mimic, if I spot one with ! Enlightenment and the level feeling is below 6-7

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          • Sky
            Veteran
            • Oct 2016
            • 2321

            #6
            well it's too late now, i guess i should have FOR SCIENCE save that file. But yeah, i enlighted the level right away at turn 1, and there was nothing else. A staff of teleport. A book mage 2.

            Not even to say that i might have missed a Adamantite Plate Mail +0 because of squelch, or a priest book. The level itself was extremely bare of items, so unless the ring mimic raised the feeling, i have no idea what could have happened. It would have been a 3-2 level otherwise.
            "i can take this dracolich"

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            • Selkie
              Swordsman
              • Aug 2020
              • 434

              #7
              Originally posted by Sky
              well it's too late now, i guess i should have FOR SCIENCE save that file. But yeah, i enlighted the level right away at turn 1, and there was nothing else. A staff of teleport. A book mage 2.

              Not even to say that i might have missed a Adamantite Plate Mail +0 because of squelch, or a priest book. The level itself was extremely bare of items, so unless the ring mimic raised the feeling, i have no idea what could have happened. It would have been a 3-2 level otherwise.
              Sounds like one for the X Files to me.

              On a side note, it's annoying how hard vanilla Adamantite
              Mail triggers feelings. It's largely garbage unless you're a half troll warrior at level 6

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              • MattB
                Veteran
                • Mar 2013
                • 1214

                #8
                Originally posted by Selkie
                On a side note, it's annoying how hard vanilla Adamantite
                Mail triggers feelings. It's largely garbage unless you're a half troll warrior at level 6
                My priest had a whale of a time yesterday wandering around in Adamantite that he found on dlvl3. I mean, sure, he no MP and was heavily slowed, but that was fine because nothing could touch him!
                Until I took it off momentarily to cast something on dlvl25, got surprised by a black knight and phased into an insect pit. That was short and brutal.

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                • PowerWyrm
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 2987

                  #9
                  Seeker bolts are depth 65, so that was obviously the feeling
                  PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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