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  • KesTheHammer
    Apprentice
    • Feb 2021
    • 50

    #16
    I killed Morgoth in a surprisingly easy battle. I created a void jumpgate with Flare and lightspeed jumped, used Hammerhand's beserk and pumped him full of artifact arrows (that had "slay giant" flag) from one side, then jumped to the other gate, picked up the arrows, and volleyed him again.

    He never got off any summons thanks to my anti-magic field.

    I'm probably not ready yet for the Void. I haven't killed off the ringwraiths, and probably some other uniques. I really feel like I need some artifact ammo of "slay undead" or *slay* undead. But I have no idea where to farm for junk to create them from.

    I'm also not sure if x5 Longbow of Lothlorien is quite good enough for the Void.

    I picked up a second Nenya on level 101, after killing Morgoth (it was actually dropped by a pet) - the first was dropped by Sauron on Mount Doom. It was weird - I didn't think it could happen.

    I don't currently have enough resist items to have a free ring slot for a second Nenya though. Also for an archer, a second Nenya is not really better than a ring of accuracy - unless I sometimes use melee.

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    • Yottle
      Apprentice
      • Dec 2008
      • 51

      #17
      Any artifacts created at the top of Mt Doom can also appear elsewhere. I presume this is because the level is sticky and needs to keep all of the loot if you leave and come back.
      You really need to kill all uniques before heading to the Void and Nether Realm. A level 150 summoner that you can't genocide is a real drag. Low level uniques will be moving at insane speed and may take a couple of hits to kill. You can get most of the Nazgul in a few trips up and down the Paths of the Dead. Khamul and the Witch King can be picked up in Angband or Mt Doom.
      Why not scum townspeople for junk? Minas Tirith is where I would go because there is a large open area outside the walls.

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      • Estie
        Veteran
        • Apr 2008
        • 2347

        #18
        For future games: The ultimate source of junk is the Lorien town quest. Pick up junk, leave 1 wolf alive, exit, rinse and repeat. I assume you completed it (I would never, with an archer).

        The best shot at a better bow are probably vaults and dragon kills in deep angband. You should eventually be able to net a x7 xbow with good damage enchantment.

        Another option, if you like cheese, is to steal-scum a scroll shop in a dungeon town for ? of artifact creation. I think you said earlier though that there werent any in your game.

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        • KesTheHammer
          Apprentice
          • Feb 2021
          • 50

          #19
          I did farm some junk in Lothlorien - I think I repeated the quest enough to give me 99 junk. I saved most of them for later, but I used the last of them on Level 99 on Mount Doom (you can recall to a safe level 99) - but it did not yield any new artifact ammo.

          I didn't think to just leave it uncompleted.

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          • KesTheHammer
            Apprentice
            • Feb 2021
            • 50

            #20
            I got a dungeon town on level 668... So that is useful hopefully.

            Edit: it is definitely useful. There is a scroll shop, a potion shop, a speed ring market, and an expensive black market.

            I felt like I was short on potions of enlightenment, morphic oils of spider, scrolls of genocide and mass genocide.

            I don't currently have ring slots available since my sound and shards resist are on one slot, and the other slot is used by either Flare for its ability to create jump gates and generally position myself, Nenya for ESP and Accuracy +20 when Nenya isn't good enough to hit.

            I haven't even started scumming through the black market yet.
            Last edited by KesTheHammer; November 2, 2021, 05:31.

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            • Estie
              Veteran
              • Apr 2008
              • 2347

              #21
              Yeah with an archer in the nether realm, you probably want to read scrolls of artifact creation on rings of accuracy if you can live without speed ring. Boots + Cubragol + Flare is 23, close enough.

              In your case, ideally you'd get accuracy + sound + shard. The scrolls can be scummed; the hard part is getting accuracy rings.

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              • KesTheHammer
                Apprentice
                • Feb 2021
                • 50

                #22
                Originally posted by Estie
                Yeah with an archer in the nether realm, you probably want to read scrolls of artifact creation on rings of accuracy if you can live without speed ring. Boots + Cubragol + Flare is 23, close enough.

                In your case, ideally you'd get accuracy + sound + shard. The scrolls can be scummed; the hard part is getting accuracy rings.
                Cubragol is not a good weapon though. It is only x3.

                Flare doesn't give speed. I have a +20 Accuracy ring, but I have not seen an Artifact creation scroll yet. Do I keep the +20 Accuracy if I turn it into an artifact, or does it reroll the accuracy?

                I have Arkenstone (3), Ellesar (4), Nenya (2), Boots of Thror (3), RohanKnight Innate (12?) = 24 Speed - and I can Lightspeed jump and potion of speed to give me more speed.

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                • Estie
                  Veteran
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 2347

                  #23
                  My bad...Cubragol is of course not an option for the archer. But your list gives you speed > 20, so it should be doable.

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    #24
                    Dont you need like 35 base speed minimum in the nether realm?

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                    • HugoVirtuoso
                      Veteran
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1237

                      #25
                      Kes, would you be able to post the char dump on oook so we see what's going? ��
                      My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
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                      As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                      • AnonymousHero
                        Veteran
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1393

                        #26
                        Originally posted by KesTheHammer
                        Do I keep the +20 Accuracy if I turn it into an artifact, or does it reroll the accuracy?
                        I'm 99%+ sure that it rerolls everything.

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                        • Estie
                          Veteran
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 2347

                          #27
                          I dont recall reading artifact creation on rings. My assumption was based on the fact that a speed ring shop will only ever sell artifact rings based on speed rings.

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                          • Yottle
                            Apprentice
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 51

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pete Mack
                            Dont you need like 35 base speed minimum in the nether realm?
                            In my experience there are two ways to survive in the Nether Realm: chain summoning or mass genocide. Speed is important, but much less so than having a way of avoiding getting mobbed.

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                            • Estie
                              Veteran
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2347

                              #29
                              The few times I have done it were mostly with sorcerors (who had neither summoning nor geno); the main utility for survival is controlled phasing with portal creation. Now sorcerors are about at the speed cap; so maybe that second ring should be speed, after all. I dont recall if I used Flare much down there; is there anything that doesnt resist the swapping at those depths ?

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                              • KesTheHammer
                                Apprentice
                                • Feb 2021
                                • 50

                                #30
                                Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
                                Kes, would you be able to post the char dump on oook so we see what's going? ��


                                This was before she died.

                                Last night, I read a summon never moving pet scroll to summon a Greater Draconic Q.

                                It chain summoned and we cleared the level.

                                Then I stepped onto an invisible trap (because there was a pet on top of it). The trap did me in one shot. I was so stunned I forgot to dump my char.
                                Last edited by KesTheHammer; November 4, 2021, 18:50.

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