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  • mibert
    Apprentice
    • Mar 2016
    • 57

    Advice before entering 1000ft

    Hi all,

    I was never in the throne room. But now I'm close.
    I'm wondering what equipment, skills, etc. to get to be sufficiently prepared.

    I plan to get CON from the will tree and perhaps crit resistance before.
    Also I assume I will need song of slaying and perhaps song of sharpness too?
    I never sung before

    Right now I can deal with stuff at 900ft ok. Something dark that hits hard is the only thing giving me problems.

    Thanks for any advice!

    Code:
      [Sil 1.3.0-mpa Character Dump]
    
     Name   Brut          Age    4,603       Str   3
     Race   Noldor        Height             Dex   6 =  4          +2
     House  Feanor        Weight             Con   6 =  4  +2
                                             Gra   4 =  3  +1
    
     Game Turn   23,547   Melee  (+27,2d9)   Melee       27 = 19  +6  +1  +1
     Exp Pool       588   Bows   (+16,2d8)   Archery     16 = 10  +6  -1  +1
     Total Exp   63,588   Armor [+27,9-29]   Evasion     27 = 20  +6  +1
     Burden       171.4                      Stealth      1 =  0  +6  -5
     Max Burden   172.8   Health     59:59   Perception  11 =  5  +4  +2
     Depth         900'   Voice      41:41   Will        13 =  9  +4
     Min Depth     850'                      Smithing     8 =  0  +4  +3  +1
     Light Radius     3                      Song         4 =  0  +4
    
     You are the only child of a smith from the house of Feanor. You have
     light grey eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.
    
    
    
    
    
    
      [Equipment]
    
    a) The Longsword 'Orcrist' (+2,2d5) [+2] <+2> 3.0 lb
       It improves your perception by 2.  It slays orcs and trolls.  
       It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
    b) a Longbow of Nargothrond (+0,2d5) 3.0 lb
       It slays dragons and raukar.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares
       (with your current strength).
    c) an Amethyst Ring of Warmth
       It provides resistance to cold.  
    d) a Garnet Ring of Protection [+0,1d2]
    e) a Dragon Tooth Amulet of Constitution <+1>
       It increases your constitution by 1.  It sustains your 
       constitution.  
    f) a Brass Lantern of Brightness (6985 turns)
       It burns brightly, increasing your light radius by an
       additional square.  
    g) The Mail Corslet of Fingon [-3,2d4] <+1>
       It increases your constitution and grace by 1.  It provides
       resistance to fear.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
    h) a Cloak [+2]
    i) a Round Shield of Protection [+0,1d5]
       It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
    j) a Great Helm of Clarity [-1,1d4]
       It provides resistance to confusion, stunning, and 
       hallucination.  
    k) The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak (-1) [+0,1d2] <+3>
       It improves your smithing by 3.  It provides resistance to 
       fire.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
    l) a Pair of Greaves of Free Action [-1,1d3]
       It grants you freedom of movement.  
    m) 50 Arrows (+3)
       They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
    n) 97 Arrows (Poisoned)
       They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
       (with your current strength and bow).
    
    
      [Inventory]
    
    a) 6 Yellow Herbs of Rage
    b) 8 Pale Green Herbs of Sustenance
    c) 3 Fragments of Lembas
    d) 6 Clear Potions of Miruvor
    e) 11 Cloudy Potions of Clarity
    f) 8 Golden Potions of Healing
    g) 5 Smoky Potions of True Sight
    h) 12 Azure Potions of Slow Poison
    i) 5 Brilliant Blue Potions of Quickness
    j) 4 Vermilion Potions of Elemental Resistance
    k) 8 Pale Green Potions of Strength
    l) 7 Sparkling Potions of Dexterity
    m) 6 Shimmering Potions of Constitution
    n) an Aspen Staff of Sanctity (3 charges)
    o) a Golden Staff of Understanding (used 1 time)
    p) a Runed Staff of Revelations (5 charges)
    q) a Silver Staff of Treasures (2 charges)
    r) a Rosewood Staff of Foes (7 charges)
    s) a Yew Staff of Majesty (3 charges)
    t) a Mahogany Staff of Recharging (2 charges)
    u) a Mattock (-4,5d3) <+2> 16.0 lb
       It improves your tunneling by 2.  It requires both hands to
       wield it properly.  
    v) 24 Arrows of Piercing
       They cut easily through armour.  They can be shot 20 squares
       (with your current strength and bow).
    w) 43 Arrows (Poisoned)
       They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
       (with your current strength and bow).
    
    
      [Abilities]
    
    Power
    Charge
    Momentum
    Flaming Arrows
    Dexterity
    Parry
    Crowd Fighting
    Heavy Armour Use
    Dexterity
    Keen Senses
    Lore-Keeper
    Hardiness
    Poison Resistance
    
    
      [Enemies]
    
      5 / 10  Wolf                                    
      4 /  8  Tanglethorn                             
     10 / 13  Orc                                     
      1 /  1  Grimhawk                                
      7 /  8  Orc scout                               
     10 / 10  Spider hatchling                        
     23 / 37  Orc soldier                             
      2 /  9  Madthorn                                
      1 /  1  Gorcrow                                 
      6 /  8  Orc archer                              
     22 / 22  White wolf                              
      4 /  4  Red serpent                             
      (slain) Gorgol, the Butcher 
     19 / 31  Orc warrior                             
      7 /  8  Sword spider                            
      6 /  6  Crebain                                 
      3 /  3  Mewlip                                  
      1 /  2  Orc thief                               
      5 /  5  Nightthorn                              
      4 /  4  Green serpent                           
     12 / 14  Mountain troll                          
     10 / 13  Orc champion                            
     23 / 23  Easterling warrior                      
     21 / 21  Hummerhorn                              
      2 /  4  Orc captain                             
     34 / 37  Warg                                    
      4 /  6  Grave wight                             
      5 /  5  Dark serpent                            
      (slain) Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs 
     14 / 26  Whispering shadow                       
     16 / 17  Distended spider                        
     14 / 16  Easterling archer                       
      3 /  3  Twisted bat                             
     12 / 15  Snow troll                              
      2 /  2  Lurking horror                          
      5 /  6  Giant                                   
      (slain) Uldor, the Accursed 
      6 / 10  Easterling spy                          
      4 /  6  Shadow bat                              
      4 /  8  Sulrauko                                
      3 /  4  Fire-drake hatchling                    
      (seen)  Ulfang the Black 
     34 / 49  Werewolf                                
      8 /  9  Shadow spider                           
      7 /  8  Shadow                                  
      4 /  4  Sapphire serpent                        
      7 / 10  Ruby serpent                            
      3 /  3  Creeping horror                         
     27 / 43  Ringrauko                               
      (slain) Nan, the Giant 
     21 / 23  Cave troll                              
      3 /  4  Emerald serpent                         
      6 /  7  Oathwraith                              
     57 / 82  Cat warrior                             
      9 / 11  Amethyst serpent                        
     10 / 44  Kemenrauko                              
      0 /  8  Grotesque                               
      1 /  2  Young cold-drake                        
      (slain) Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper 
      4 /  6  Spider of Gorgoroth                     
     16 / 23  Greater werewolf                        
      4 /  4  Adamant serpent                         
     12 / 16  Lesser vampire                          
      8 / 16  Cat assassin                            
      (slain) Scatha the Worm 
      (slain) Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo 
      2 /  2  Young fire-drake                        
      9 /  9  Darting horror                          
      5 / 10  Unmourned                               
     27 / 40  Ururauko                                
      (slain) Tevildo, Prince of Cats 
      (seen)  Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts 
      1 /  2  Ancient sapphire serpent                
     26 / 29  Troll guard                             
      7 / 14  Vampire                                 
      0 /  1  Ancient ruby serpent                    
      2 /  4  Gwathrauko                              
      (slain) Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame 
      0 /  1  Ancient emerald serpent                 
      (slain) Gostir, the Dread Glance 
      0 /  1  Ancient amethyst serpent                
    
    
      [Notes]
    
    Brut of the Noldor
    Entered Angband on 29 Oct 2016
    
       Turn     Depth   Note
    
          0     50 ft   (Power)
          0     50 ft   (Crowd Fighting)
      1,132    200 ft   Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
      1,154    200 ft   Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
      1,802    250 ft   Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
      2,920    300 ft   Found The Round Shield of Angrod
      3,761    350 ft   (Parry)
      4,581    350 ft   (Lore-Keeper)
      4,603    350 ft   Found The Longsword 'Aranruth'
      4,697    350 ft   Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
      4,736    350 ft   Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
      5,607    400 ft   (Flaming Arrows)
      7,983    500 ft   Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
      8,004    500 ft   Slew Uldor, the Accursed
      8,091    500 ft   Encountered Ulfang the Black
      8,647    550 ft   (Dexterity)
      8,954    550 ft   (Heavy Armour Use)
      9,497    600 ft   Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
      9,765    600 ft   (Keen Senses)
     11,033    650 ft   Encountered Nan, the Giant
     11,050    650 ft   Slew Nan, the Giant
     11,050    650 ft   Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
     11,136    650 ft   (Hardiness)
     11,371    700 ft   Found The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak
     11,601    700 ft   Found The Arrow 'Dailir'
     12,539    650 ft   Encountered Scatha the Worm
     14,517    750 ft   Fell through a crumbling stair
     14,712    750 ft   Encountered Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
     14,717    750 ft   Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
     14,808    750 ft   Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
     14,811    750 ft   Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
     14,823    750 ft   Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
     14,846    750 ft   Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
     15,450    800 ft   (Charge)
     15,450    800 ft   (Momentum)
     15,617    800 ft   Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
     19,412    850 ft   Slew Scatha the Worm
     19,606    850 ft   (Poison Resistance)
     20,093    850 ft   Found The Glaive of the Sirion
     20,581    900 ft   Encountered Gostir, the Dread Glance
     20,599    900 ft   Slew Gostir, the Dread Glance
     23,424    900 ft   Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
     23,465    900 ft   Destroyed Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
     23,476    900 ft   (Dexterity)
    
    
    
      ['Score' 018076453]
  • Psi
    Knight
    • Apr 2007
    • 870

    #2
    Depends on whether the goal is killing V or not. I'd be wanting momentum or rapid attack to make the most of strength potions. You will probably want a little more will or another source of FA to counteract Morgoth's bad voice.

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    • mibert
      Apprentice
      • Mar 2016
      • 57

      #3
      Originally posted by Psi
      Depends on whether the goal is killing V or not. I'd be wanting momentum or rapid attack to make the most of strength potions. You will probably want a little more will or another source of FA to counteract Morgoth's bad voice.
      Thanks.
      I got momentum along with charge with 3 STR and Orcrist (3lbs).
      I will get more Will in order to get the CON point. So it'll be about 14 Will effectively.
      What is FA?

      Comment

      • HallucinationMushroom
        Knight
        • Apr 2007
        • 785

        #4
        FA is free action. I'm surprised you are using Orcrist. But, hey, if it's working it's working! There are many trolls at the start of the throne room, so that is something. I normally look for a good 3dx weapon if I'm weapon/shielding in endgame, but maybe your to-hit is high enough to get criticals to offset. I'm not so good with numbers, but just from experience, Orcrist always felt a bit like a butterknife once 600' hit.
        You are on something strange

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        • mibert
          Apprentice
          • Mar 2016
          • 57

          #5
          Originally posted by HallucinationMushroom
          FA is free action. I'm surprised you are using Orcrist. But, hey, if it's working it's working! There are many trolls at the start of the throne room, so that is something. I normally look for a good 3dx weapon if I'm weapon/shielding in endgame, but maybe your to-hit is high enough to get criticals to offset. I'm not so good with numbers, but just from experience, Orcrist always felt a bit like a butterknife once 600' hit.
          Thanks!

          Free action, alright, i have that on my greaves.

          yes, orcrist isnt great, but i'm crit-ing okish. It's weight fits my strength (3) optimally and i have finesse.

          Any songs you'd recommend?

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          • HallucinationMushroom
            Knight
            • Apr 2007
            • 785

            #6
            Slaying is, for my money, the most broken song. Slaying at merely bonus 12, or so, is ridiculous. It could just simply be a combination though... the throne room is flooded with monsters, so you can quickly ramp up a slaying bonus to insane heights.

            You are on something strange

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            • seraph
              Adept
              • Jan 2016
              • 120

              #7
              i think that psi meant you should have two sources of free action. it provides resistance - but not immunity - to slowness and entrancement. a second one would give you enough for the throne room.

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              • Psi
                Knight
                • Apr 2007
                • 870

                #8
                Originally posted by seraph
                i think that psi meant you should have two sources of free action. it provides resistance - but not immunity - to slowness and entrancement. a second one would give you enough for the throne room.
                From memory I think you want the equivalent of 25 will, each FA source is +10 against the effect.

                Comment

                • wobbly
                  Prophet
                  • May 2012
                  • 2631

                  #9
                  Yep. Had 25 last time I killed him. It's not 100% but still pretty good

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                  • debo
                    Veteran
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 2402

                    #10
                    I think 25 works until the crown is knocked off, at which point you need 28 for immunity.
                    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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