How to deal with the throne room and ascent (is grinding 950 a good idea?)

[Galen]

If you're going to melee the throne room without much stealth/vanish, you want to have song of slaying and herbs of rage. Walk to the middle of the throne room without breaking tension, wait for dudes to pool around you, buff, rage, and then sing slaying. The latter (I think) should break tension, and you can rack up a +40 melee bonus pretty quickly. Then wack Morgoth and use said melee bonus to get your sil as quickly as you can and GTFO.

Yeah, that's what I did, and it worked pretty well until Morgoth created a pit right under my dude. Which I totally didn't expect. But now I think that the upstairs would've been a much better place to fight. I don't know, but it seems very unlikely that pits can be created on the same tile as stairs. Also, the stairs are right next to a wall. And being close to stairs is also good for escaping. I think the next time I'll just copy the save file and experiment with it. Right now I'm playing mainline Angband, its actually more fun than I thought it would be

[Galen]

My impression is that haste from an item doesn't stack with potions of quickness. Is that so? If yes, that robe was pretty bad (for the throne room).

So I was reading some old posts on this forum and

In Sil, there are 4 possible speeds: 1, 2, 3, 4. This is a simple linear system with speed 3 being 3 times as fast as speed 1 etc. Standard speed is 2. Speed boosts and penalties are all +1 or -1 to speed. Player speed is capped to [1, 3] and most monsters are speed 2 or 3. Incredibly fast monsters are at 4. Potions of speed 'only' make you 50% faster than normal, which is still an insanely large boost. There is an incredibly small amount of permanent speed boost and most play throughs won't have it. Even if you do have it, it is not as amazing as it first appears, since it doesn't help with the most important battles where you would be at speed 3 due to potions anyway.

http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showpost.php?p=76471&postcount=43

So, yeah, should've equipped some real armor.

[Galen]

Just wanted to say that I've spent some time playing Angband, DCSS and Brogue and I've come to the conclusion that Sil really is the best roguelike. I see there is a new version, hopefully they nerfed Morgy a little

[Galen]

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=18952

So, yeah, I did it (the grinding ) Well it wasn't too bad, really At least it's desirable to to conserve consumables while farming 950, which does add some tactical interest.