Getting sound to work in Linux

[redlumf]

Ok, points taken.

Let's turn this arround. Why do all platforms have to have the same format?

How about, you (the maintainers) have your originals in lossless format (wav)
and at packaging time a script converts them to the best native of the platform.

mp3 for windows, mp3 for apple, ogg for linux.

It would work, but you don't package for linux
Angband-linux distribution is the source and everyone builds from the source and we are back at square one.

[Nick]

It would work, but you don't package for linux
Angband-linux distribution is the source and everyone builds from the source and we are back at square one.

That's not to say that packaging for linux can't be done. I have used the SUSE open build service in the past to create .rpms (in fact, the Tumbleweed ones seem to autobuild - I really should update the source), although I could never get .debs to build properly.

Maybe source should include .ogg and .mp3, and we should try to set up proper package builds. I'll look into whether our autobuilder could do packaging, or otherwise we could try the open build service.

[Pete Mack]

At one point, sound and gfx were separate downloads. Maybe go back to that? The gfx in particular mean that multiple pulls both take a long time on slow connections AND use a lot of space. (And the space I doubled by source control since images and sound are not further compressible.

[yyt16384]

I just downloaded 4.0.4 src. Sound works on kubuntu 14.04.4 LTS.

./configure --with-no-install --enable-sdl-mixer

./angband -mgcu -ssdl

Never had a problem with it.

I didn't know that will work... I assumed it only works with -msdl.

[takkaria]

At one point, sound and gfx were separate downloads. Maybe go back to that? The gfx in particular mean that multiple pulls both take a long time on slow connections AND use a lot of space. (And the space I doubled by source control since images and sound are not further compressible.

Removing them wouldn't remove their history in git at this point I think. Perhaps we could use git-lfs to fix this? Though I'm not sure if it works like that.

[redlumf]

Another way would be to support sdl-sound subsystem in all platforms (and then use ogg)

Other than that, what Nick suggested about both includiong mp3 and ogg, would probably work.

You could have it, each platform trying to use platform_sound.cfg and then fall back to sound.cfg if not found. So you wouldn't had any osx_sound.cfg and windows_sound.cfg files (so fallback to sound.cfg) and you would have a linux_sound.cfg where it would use .ogg

[Nick]

Other than that, what Nick suggested about both including mp3 and ogg, would probably work.

You could have it, each platform trying to use platform_sound.cfg and then fall back to sound.cfg if not found. So you wouldn't had any osx_sound.cfg and windows_sound.cfg files (so fallback to sound.cfg) and you would have a linux_sound.cfg where it would use .ogg

Something like this sounds good.

I didn't know that will work... I assumed it only works with -msdl.

I believe sdl sound works with the other linux display modules (gcu and x11) as well.

At one point, sound and gfx were separate downloads. Maybe go back to that? The gfx in particular mean that multiple pulls both take a long time on slow connections AND use a lot of space. (And the space I doubled by source control since images and sound are not further compressible.

I'm reluctant to do this, not least because Shockbolt graphics are now the default on Windows. I think making things more convenient for players at the expense of developers is a good trade

[Pete Mack]

Nick--it doesn't have to affect exe downloads; they can perfectly well include the sound and gfx. It's the 60 download for git I object to most, and that is only an issue for development, not playing. 60MB 1Mbit is a significant wait.

[calris]

You could have it, each platform trying to use platform_sound.cfg and then fall back to sound.cfg if not found. So you wouldn't had any osx_sound.cfg and windows_sound.cfg files (so fallback to sound.cfg) and you would have a linux_sound.cfg where it would use .ogg

I just posted an alternative solution

For platforms that support multiple file formats (and possibly multiple sound libraries) sound.cfg can simply define the file format and OS sound library to use

[calris]

Nick--it doesn't have to affect exe downloads; they can perfectly well include the sound and gfx. It's the 60 download for git I object to most, and that is only an issue for development, not playing. 60MB 1Mbit is a significant wait.

Agree - I don't think the sound files should be in git (or at the very least, put them in a separate git repository so devs generating installers are all working of a common set of sound files)