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[Derakon]

I also noticed that when I take fox form, my inventory window does not update to my new strength situation, so I need to do something on my screen to make it update (roguelike i, followed by ESC).

Does ^R fix it? If so it's just a display update issue.

[DavidMedley]

Did a little research into what "more effective against animals" means. It's definitely 50% more effective, but does that mean duration and duration only?

from project-mon.c

if (context->charm && rf_has(context->mon->race->flags, RF_ANIMAL)) {
		context->dam += context->dam / 2;
	}

[Nick]

Did a little research into what "more effective against animals" means. It's definitely 50% more effective, but does that mean duration and duration only?

from project-mon.c

if (context->charm && rf_has(context->mon->race->flags, RF_ANIMAL)) {
		context->dam += context->dam / 2;
	}

Yes, precisely.

[DavidMedley]

Great! While I'm on a roll, can someone verify my conclusions about Lightning Strike?

The sound part of lightning strike causes stunning one time in three. Its duration is adjust_radius(context, 5 + randint1(10)). adjust_radius returns (amount + context->r) / (context->r + 1);

So, at the center (radius=0) it lasts 5+1d10. And at the edge (radius=3) it lasts (8+1d10)/4. The difference between "strike" and "ball" appears to be purely cosmetic. The sound damage is likewise decreased by adjust_radius - a hair more damage than 1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4th as you go from radius 0 to 3.

The lighting damage seems very straightforward and has no status effects or radius.

[Nick]

Great! While I'm on a roll, can someone verify my conclusions about Lightning Strike?

The sound part of lightning strike causes stunning one time in three. Its duration is adjust_radius(context, 5 + randint1(10)). adjust_radius returns (amount + context->r) / (context->r + 1);

So, at the center (radius=0) it lasts 5+1d10. And at the edge (radius=3) it lasts (8+1d10)/4. The difference between "strike" and "ball" appears to be purely cosmetic. The sound damage is likewise decreased by adjust_radius - a hair more damage than 1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4th as you go from radius 0 to 3.

The lighting damage seems very straightforward and has no status effects or radius.

Without more than a brief check, yes that looks right.

The difference between strike and ball is to do solely with how their projection path is calculated, not the damage or other effects when they explode.

[DavidMedley]

how their projection path is calculated

OK, that's interesting. How do their projection paths differ?

[malcontent]

Does ^R fix it? If so it's just a display update issue.

Good question, probably, but I can't tell right now because my STR seems to be above a threshold where it makes a difference.

[Nick]

OK, that's interesting. How do their projection paths differ?

Ball maps a path to the targeted grid, and then explodes there; if no targeted grid (just a direction), it just goes in the direction until it hits something. Strike just hits the targeted grid directly, which probably amounts to the same thing as a ball in effect, except that you don't have the option to just fire in a direction.

[DavidMedley]

Yeah, that would make a big difference if you're firing blind!

[DavidMedley]

I've added what I learned about the first two Druid spellbooks into my spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nAVk2AodMHloqhLBzZm7p_s4mne3My4Kyo9wODJWAFQ/edit?usp=sharing

@Nick: Would you be OK with me adding some info to the in-game documentation? Like, the duration of Confuse Monster and Slow Monster jump out at me immediately.

[DavidMedley]

you don't have the option to just fire in a direction.

You actually do have the option to fire in a direction, but you're going to be deeply disappointed if you do because it centers on the player.

[wobbly]

Ball maps a path to the targeted grid, and then explodes there; if no targeted grid (just a direction), it just goes in the direction until it hits something. Strike just hits the targeted grid directly, which probably amounts to the same thing as a ball in effect, except that you don't have the option to just fire in a direction.

The other difference is not being able to splash by targeting a wall

[DavidMedley]

The other difference is not being able to splash by targeting a wall

I checked this... you can still target an empty square next to a wall.

[wobbly]

Food use for rapid heal seems high? If you're using it regularly you really want to be carrying a full stack of food rations. My suggestion is halving that.

[malcontent]

Food use for rapid heal seems high? If you're using it regularly you really want to be carrying a full stack of food rations. My suggestion is halving that.

Me thinks you have lost sight that the first spell book provides remove hunger? I occasionally find myself using the two spells in close succession, sometimes for several heal/hunger cycles.

Of course, if you managed to win in 30K turns while forgetting about resist poison and remove hunger in your spell books then you clearly know some things that I don't