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  • debo
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2402

    Comp 200 (!)

    Comp 200 is up. It's a high-elf mage with quite a few nasty birth-options set.

    GLHF

    (Thanks to bron for the idea for this.)
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'
  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9634

    #2
    200 factorial! you have been doing this for a while.
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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    • Philip
      Knight
      • Jul 2009
      • 909

      #3
      Which sneaky bastard decided that I would get a Word of Recall scroll that I wouldn't be able to sell?

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      • Derakon
        Prophet
        • Dec 2009
        • 9022

        #4
        Originally posted by Philip
        Which sneaky bastard decided that I would get a Word of Recall scroll that I wouldn't be able to sell?
        Take heart, the scroll still has a use: you can throw it at a monster to wake it up! ...assuming you manage to hit it, that is.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #5
          Really horrid birth options.

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          • debo
            Veteran
            • Oct 2011
            • 2402

            #6
            Originally posted by Pete Mack
            Really horrid birth options.
            I've heard on good authority that roguelikes are supposed to be nasty.
            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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            • Pete Mack
              Prophet
              • Apr 2007
              • 6883

              #7
              You succeeded-a job well done. Could have done a little better by just going downstairs on the first turn.
              Originally posted by debo
              I've heard on good authority that roguelikes are supposed to be nasty.

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              • PowerWyrm
                Prophet
                • Apr 2008
                • 2986

                #8
                Originally posted by Pete Mack
                Really horrid birth options.
                Not really... monsters still behave stupidly
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                • debo
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2402

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PowerWyrm
                  Not really... monsters still behave stupidly
                  I would have flipped that one too but I wasn't sure if it was broken or not
                  Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                  • Derakon
                    Prophet
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9022

                    #10
                    Originally posted by debo
                    I would have flipped that one too but I wasn't sure if it was broken or not
                    I don't know what it does currently, but back when it was working as designed, any monster with a heal or teleport spell was basically unkillable.

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                    • Azuria
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 23

                      #11
                      Now I understand why spells were illegible back in 3.whatever...
                      Was playing ranger before this, keep trying to cast detect stairs and hitting stinking cloud instead
                      Cloning Nightwalkers for XP
                      Originally posted by Pete Mack
                      Better to be down a point in INT than be suffering under 300HP at dl 70.
                      I should probably take note of this.

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                      • PowerWyrm
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2986

                        #12
                        Originally posted by debo
                        I would have flipped that one too but I wasn't sure if it was broken or not
                        This means that the Tarrasque will breathe disenchantement exclusively when a character has both fire and cold immunities. Basically monsters will cheat, knowing what a character resists and what spells are useless to cast.
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                        • Derakon
                          Prophet
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9022

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PowerWyrm
                          This means that the Tarrasque will breathe disenchantement exclusively when a character has both fire and cold immunities. Basically monsters will cheat, knowing what a character resists and what spells are useless to cast.
                          Not quite. There used to be three "monster intelligence" options -- monsters learn, monsters cheat, and monsters are smart. The "cheat" one is as you describe. The "learn" one is basically similar, except the monster has to try an attack once before it discovers that the attack doesn't work. So the Tarrasque would breathe fire/cold precisely once each before sticking to disenchantment in your example.

                          Smart monsters is different, though, in that it biases what spells monsters cast based on the monster's situation. In particular it prioritizes escape and recovery spells when the monster is low on health, which is why I said it makes uniques with those spells basically unkillable. I don't know what effect it has on the monster's choice of damage spells though.

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                          • Ingwe Ingweron
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2129

                            #14
                            I've been playing the nightlies for so long now, it has been awhile since playing regular 4.0.5.

                            I miss rune-id and id on walkover. But, I love being able to detect doors and traps from a distance (which I find very important for Mage tactics) and having the trap detection line.
                            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                            • debo
                              Veteran
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 2402

                              #15
                              Congratulations to PowerWyrm for the impressive 1st place run, and to Ingwe and tkm2d for their 2nd and 3rd place finishes.
                              Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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