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  • ShadowTechnology
    Apprentice
    • Jan 2009
    • 71

    #16
    Originally posted by ranger jeff
    Stupid Windows Defender keeps deleting Poschengband.exe... Have disabled real-time protection and am attempting to exclude Poschengband.exe from scanning, but thought I'd make a note here about this. Hopefully this can be fixed.

    Edit: that seems to have worked.
    I have the same problem with this version 5.0.0, but not with previous version. Windows Security Essentials is identifying a particular threat called "Trojan:Win32/Maltule.Clcl", which it classifies as a "severe" threat. It keeps deleting the executable. I tried to download and install 4 times with the same result. Can someone else confirm?

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    • ShadowTechnology
      Apprentice
      • Jan 2009
      • 71

      #17
      Originally posted by ShadowTechnology
      I have the same problem with this version 5.0.0, but not with previous version. Windows Security Essentials is identifying a particular threat called "Trojan:Win32/Maltule.Clcl", which it classifies as a "severe" threat. It keeps deleting the executable. I tried to download and install 4 times with the same result. Can someone else confirm?
      Correction. That's "Maltule.C!cl" with an exclamation point.

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      • nikheizen
        Adept
        • Jul 2015
        • 144

        #18
        I think the best solution would be getting an antivirus which doesn't delete your stuff without asking you about it.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #19
          Yeah. I understand why MS does it: for the vast majority of users, the off chance of a false positive is vastly outweighed by the catastrophic results of a false negative. Here is how to fix it, when something goes wrong.


          Originally posted by nikheizen
          I think the best solution would be getting an antivirus which doesn't delete your stuff without asking you about it.

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          • Derakon
            Prophet
            • Dec 2009
            • 9022

            #20
            Perhaps a better question might be, what is it about the PosChengband EXE that causes it to be flagged by antivirus? Is there some way to fix that so that each user doesn't have to manipulate their antivirus settings just to play the game?

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            • ShadowTechnology
              Apprentice
              • Jan 2009
              • 71

              #21
              Originally posted by Derakon
              Perhaps a better question might be, what is it about the PosChengband EXE that causes it to be flagged by antivirus? Is there some way to fix that so that each user doesn't have to manipulate their antivirus settings just to play the game?
              Exactly. Why are some here casually dismissing this under the assumption that it's either a false positive (Maltule.C!cl is not actually there) or that Maltule.C!cl is not potentially harmful? Of all the *bands I've downloaded (a hundred?) this most recent build of PosChangband.exe is the only one my antivirus has ever flagged as a threat. I know how to bypass my antivirus, but why should I assume it's a false alarm?

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                #22
                Well yes. That was my first response when my installation got deleted. So I tried building myself. Unfortunately...
                One difference is this is one of the few that is built with MSVC. (I have tried compiling MINGW without success.)

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                • nikheizen
                  Adept
                  • Jul 2015
                  • 144

                  #23
                  I'm a windows user myself (I play console roguelikes on a Linux VM though), so I know how threatening getting a virus is.

                  I have a self-compiled copy (using MSVC) and have scanned it with Malwarebytes, Spybot S&D, and ClamWin. I have received no positive reports, for whatever that is worth.

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                  • Derakon
                    Prophet
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9022

                    #24
                    Originally posted by nikheizen
                    I have a self-compiled copy (using MSVC) and have scanned it with Malwarebytes, Spybot S&D, and ClamWin. I have received no positive reports, for whatever that is worth.
                    Could you make that self-compiled copy available for others to use, by any chance?

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                    • nikheizen
                      Adept
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 144

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Derakon
                      Could you make that self-compiled copy available for others to use, by any chance?
                      Enclosed are malwarebytes and clamwin reports. Didn't bother running S&D again.

                      EDIT: forgot to include msvcr100.dll

                      Also this one is a .zip in case you don't have 7zip: http://www64.zippyshare.com/v/ewVEoP8H/file.html
                      Last edited by nikheizen; July 14, 2016, 00:36.

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                      • ShadowTechnology
                        Apprentice
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 71

                        #26
                        Originally posted by nikheizen
                        Enclosed are malwarebytes and clamwin reports. Didn't bother running S&D again.

                        EDIT: forgot to include msvcr100.dll

                        Also this one is a .zip in case you don't have 7zip: http://www64.zippyshare.com/v/ewVEoP8H/file.html
                        Thanks, but now it's asking for MSVCR110D.dll

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                        • Pete Mack
                          Prophet
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6883

                          #27
                          Just find out which version of the MSVCR distributable it is, and download it from MS. (Also, that is a debug build. Ouch.)

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                          • nikheizen
                            Adept
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 144

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ShadowTechnology
                            Thanks, but now it's asking for MSVCR110D.dll
                            Originally posted by Pete Mack
                            Just find out which version of the MSVCR distributable it is, and download it from MS. (Also, that is a debug build. Ouch.)
                            Righteous suffering imposed by your woeful choice in computer security applications!

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                            • HugoVirtuoso
                              Veteran
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1237

                              #29
                              Hey guys,
                              I have successfully made a screen recording (with XSplit Broadcaster 2.8) of my most recent Compo 190 attempt (Marian 96) - from the moment I downloaded the Compo 190 savefile to literally every movement in its first 2 hours of gameplay including in-game notes, with awesome heavy metal music in the background. This video will show how I approach the wilderness and how I fight dudes. You'll also notice that I resoundingly defended the wilderness at some parts during the video

                              Links:
                              Marian 96 START to 2hr mark
                              Marian 96 2hr to 2hr30min mark


                              Note that Peltor777 is my YouTube username.

                              [If it's already uploaded and not yet playable, it's because YouTube is still processing it]
                              Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; July 20, 2016, 12:39.
                              My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

                              If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

                              As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                              • debo
                                Veteran
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 2402

                                #30
                                Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
                                Hey guys,
                                I have successfully made a screen recording (with XSplit Broadcaster 2.8) of my most recent Compo 190 attempt (Marian 96) - from the moment I downloaded the Compo 190 savefile to literally every movement in its first 2 hours of gameplay including in-game notes, with awesome heavy metal music in the background. This video will show how I approach the wilderness and how I fight dudes. You'll also notice that I resoundingly defended the wilderness at some parts during the video

                                Links:
                                Marian 96 START to 2hr mark
                                Marian 96 2hr to 2hr30min mark


                                Note that Peltor777 is my YouTube username.

                                [If it's already uploaded and not yet playable, it's because YouTube is still processing it]
                                Very cool!
                                Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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