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  • debo
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2402

    Competition 186

    Competition 186 is up. It's an Angband Kobold Rogue, using the recent rune ID feature branch.

    o/
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'
  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9637

    #2
    The feature branch will be getting updates - mainly to what object info and names look like, I suspect - over the course of the comp. I'll post here whenever there's an updated version.
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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    • Nick
      Vanilla maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 9637

      #3
      New builds for Windows and OS X.

      Fixes are mainly to object names - these are mostly right now, I think, and objects not fully known get a {??} inscription. The character screen properties grid has also been improved, with unknown runes greyed out. This makes that screen a place to see whether or not you have 36 of the 87 runes (and kind of 10 more from the stat grid).

      It's not perfect (typically your starting armour won't get an AC, for example), but I think it's not too bad.
      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9637

        #4
        New builds for Windows and OS X. Changes:
        • Player starting gear and shop objects update properly
        • Shop pricing for unknown jewellery is correct
        • Dice and base AC are known at birth (and the competition character should update shortly)
        • Learning of runes at sufficient character level has been replaced by Derakon's ?Identify, which learns a single unknown rune on an object


        There has been no change to ID of flavored things yet, nor is there a screen for viewing runes.
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #5
          Are runes a language? Is there one for sustain stat, one for modify stat, another for increase stat, and another set of runes, one for each stat? After that, there would be a different rune for each spell effect, and one for each element bolt/ball/beam/breath/area/zone; Frost/fire/elec/acid/life/stone2mud etc.

          That cuts the number of things to figure out from O(n*m) to O(n+m) That is a much less painful mini-game.

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          • Nick
            Vanilla maintainer
            • Apr 2007
            • 9637

            #6
            Originally posted by Pete Mack
            Are runes a language? Is there one for sustain stat, one for modify stat, another for increase stat, and another set of runes, one for each stat? After that, there would be a different rune for each spell effect, and one for each element bolt/ball/beam/breath/area/zone; Frost/fire/elec/acid/life/stone2mud etc.

            That cuts the number of things to figure out from O(n*m) to O(n+m) That is a much less painful mini-game.
            There are currently:
            • 3 combat runes - to_a, to_h, to_d
            • 19 flag runes - sustains, telepathy, pBlind, random teleport, etc
            • 12 modifier runes - stats, stealth, speed, etc
            • 13 resist runes
            • 5 brand runes
            • 8 slay runes


            Note that these are all for properties that objects confer when worn - nothing to do with effects.
            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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            • Ingwe Ingweron
              Veteran
              • Jan 2009
              • 2129

              #7
              Originally posted by Nick
              New builds for Windows and OS X. Changes:
              • Player starting gear and shop objects update properly
              • Shop pricing for unknown jewellery is correct
              • Dice and base AC are known at birth (and the competition character should update shortly)
              • Learning of runes at sufficient character level has been replaced by Derakon's ?Identify, which learns a single unknown rune on an object


              There has been no change to ID of flavored things yet, nor is there a screen for viewing runes.
              As noted in the RuneID thread, this new build is broken. Try starting a new character and it crashes at the end of the process. This is in OSX.
              “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
              ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9637

                #8
                New builds - Windows and OS X (maybe fixed - who knows?).

                Deliberate changes are:
                • "Learn after time" runes only get learnt when you're actually using them
                • Flavored items don't get spurious ??s
                • Shop items do get ?? (when they deserve it)
                • Flavored consumables are ID'd after a single use
                • Light sources are properly identified
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • PowerWyrm
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 2986

                  #9
                  I've upgraded from 185 to 198 and loaded the comp char. Flavors have changed... at least for scrolls (satisfy hunger became mass banishment, deep descent became trap/door destruction...). Feels weird.
                  PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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