Using next few comps to play with variant magic systems (feedback requested)

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  • debo
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2402

    Using next few comps to play with variant magic systems (feedback requested)

    Hi,

    Since we're talking about how the magic system in vanilla could work, I thought we might do a few 2-wk competitions with magic systems from other variants.

    Ideas:

    1) NPP druid
    2) poschengband human spelly guy (you get to roll your character, and you can pick from any class in the Magic or Prayer sections)
    4) FAangband something?

    Other suggestions? I think we can do 3 of these before getting sick of it. After that, I want to do an animeband comp. For real, this time.

    I'm probably going to use (2) as the next comp unless I hear something really good in the next 48 hours. (1) was suggested by Nick and could be a follow-up, but his ideas are usually super bad so some of us should probably vet it.
    Last edited by debo; June 7, 2015, 23:27.
    Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'
  • HugoVirtuoso
    Veteran
    • Jan 2012
    • 1237

    #2
    Originally posted by debo
    Ideas:
    2) poschengband human spelly guy (you get to roll your character, and you can pick from any class in the Magic or Prayer sections)

    I definitely would second #2 anyday. With this, we get to see different approaches to the PosChengband Magic or Prayer -lore in a competition setting.
    Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; June 9, 2015, 19:14. Reason: fixed typo
    My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

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    • Nick
      Vanilla maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 9634

      #3
      Idea (1) is clearly brilliant - use it. For (3), I'd suggest a Necro (probably Longbeard or Dwarf or High Elf) with Angband dungeon.
      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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      • PowerWyrm
        Prophet
        • Apr 2008
        • 2986

        #4
        You could do a PWMAngband comp

        Ideas:
        - a shapechanger (spells based on monster spells)
        - a summoner (pets)
        - a necromancer (slaves, special abilities)
        - an elementalist (spells can be studied multiple times to increase spell power)
        PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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        • clouded
          Swordsman
          • Jun 2012
          • 268

          #5
          Here's the list of the poscheng classes that can use the standard array of books:

          Blood-Mage, Mage, High-Mage, Sorcerer, Priest, Paladin, Rogue, Ranger, Red-Mage, Warrior-Mage, Monk, Force-Trainer (I wouldn't use this one)

          And the ones that use special school of books that no one else can use:

          Necromancer, Rage-Mage, Bard

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          • debo
            Veteran
            • Oct 2011
            • 2402

            #6
            Originally posted by clouded
            Here's the list of the poscheng classes that can use the standard array of books:

            Blood-Mage, Mage, High-Mage, Sorcerer, Priest, Paladin, Rogue, Ranger, Red-Mage, Warrior-Mage, Monk, Force-Trainer (I wouldn't use this one)

            And the ones that use special school of books that no one else can use:

            Necromancer, Rage-Mage, Bard
            Also Chaos-Warrior! I was originally thinking of leaving the hybrids out of this competition, but it might be good to have them given the conversation that has already occurred. I'd probably leave out warrior-mage also, because it's garbage and our time is precious
            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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            • wobbly
              Prophet
              • May 2012
              • 2629

              #7
              Nature-Sorcery Ranger might be a reasonable look at an alternative ranger.

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              • MattB
                Veteran
                • Mar 2013
                • 1214

                #8
                Originally posted by debo
                our time is precious
                Speak for yourself!

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                • HugoVirtuoso
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1237

                  #9
                  Warrior-Mages aren't garbage once you realize they can learn the Rockets spell. debo, you should count them in, if possible.
                  My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

                  If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

                  As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                  • Cold_Heart
                    Adept
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 141

                    #10
                    High mages? Blood mages? Priests? pff

                    Real mages have 4 lb pre-penalty weight limits, icky wield of anything that's not a wizard staff, and 0.65 life rating modifier

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                    • AnonymousHero
                      Veteran
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1393

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cold_Heart
                      High mages? Blood mages? Priests? pff

                      Real mages have 4 lb pre-penalty weight limits, icky wield of anything that's not a wizard staff, and 0.65 life rating modifier
                      I think that's... the Sorcerer Poschengband class?

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                      • PowerWyrm
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2986

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AnonymousHero
                        I think that's... the Sorcerer Poschengband class?
                        Probably more the T2 Yeek hermit Sorcerors...
                        PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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                        • debo
                          Veteran
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2402

                          #13
                          FYI: http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php?showcompo=175
                          Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                          • HugoVirtuoso
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1237

                            #14
                            Are Warrior-Mages allowed in Compo 175? They are in the Hybrid category....
                            My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

                            If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

                            As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                            • debo
                              Veteran
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 2402

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
                              Are Warrior-Mages allowed in Compo 175? They are in the Hybrid category....
                              Yup! I took your feedback
                              Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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