A perilous find: Cursed boots of Elvenkind!

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  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    A perilous find: Cursed boots of Elvenkind!

    Have a promising game going, V4.2 HE warriors, played entirely in portrait mode on my smallish android phone. It isn't easy. LOS monsters are a regular occurrence, and the monster list overlay is too small to read. I lost a mage to a mature MHD that I thought was a black: it had just been summoned and had yet to change color. It breathed poison: instakill.
    I am sticking to warrior and Paladino, where instakills by unrecognized monsters are far less likely. Undetected--yes; unrecognized--no.

    At 800', Ulfast dropped Forasgil, a big upgrade from a +4 dagger.
    At 2000, I found Careth Asdraig in a vault, a nice upgrade after some stat pots.
    At 2350', things started looking up with +2,+7 Elvenkind boots. But these are perilously cursed: paralysis, which isn't a problem, and anti-teleport, which is scary. I am relying on TO, nonetheless, and hoping to find *remove curse* before the end....
    At 2400', this started looking much more likely, when Rohirrim was conjured forth by an unknown scroll, then Tom dropped ... the Trident of Wrath

    At 500 dam vs evil, and +7 speed, there isn't much to concern me at this level. I *would* like to ditch the Ring of Free Action, tho.
  • Sky
    Veteran
    • Oct 2016
    • 2321

    #2
    you can take them off. not the best solution, but if you have enough detect, they could still be viable.
    "i can take this dracolich"

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    • Grotug
      Veteran
      • Nov 2013
      • 1637

      #3
      Interesting game you have there. Keep us updated. Does teleban mean you can't phase, too? I don't know if you ever do screen recordings of your games, but a super powerful @ with no phase/teleport ability would be interesting to watch. Android probably has a built in screen recording app. (iPhone does, anyway).
      Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

      Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

      "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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      • Pete Mack
        Prophet
        • Apr 2007
        • 6883

        #4
        You can't phase. But you can still TO. It mostly means less softening up monsters with archery before going to melee. Since that post, I finally found gloves with FA, so I could swap in a CON ring for a little lost melee. I am still doing 490 dam vs evil, 600 poison brand, and 830 vs undead. Nevertheless, I didn't try meleeing a dracolich without rNether, at 565HP. But I did melee Itangast and Scatha, with minimal archery in advance.
        And yes, I can teleport after using a turn to take the boots off. But that is a long way from a guaranteed escape. On the other hand, I could in principle melee sauron without rNexus. Blink dogs and nexus Qs can't affect me.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #5
          After one very close call, I *only* fight summoners in ASCs or otherwise constrained locations. Fundin summoned multiple summoners, and I barely made it out. Without phase, this is way too dangerous.

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          • wobbly
            Prophet
            • May 2012
            • 2631

            #6
            You can still use scroll of deep descent though that isn't instantaneous.

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            • Grotug
              Veteran
              • Nov 2013
              • 1637

              #7
              Originally posted by Pete Mack
              [snip]I could in principle melee sauron without rNexus. Blink dogs and nexus Qs can't affect me.
              Teleport ban doesn't affect teleport level, does it?
              Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

              Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

              "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9638

                #8
                Originally posted by Grotug
                Teleport ban doesn't affect teleport level, does it?
                Yes it does
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • Sky
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2321

                  #9
                  does it affect those pesky nexus Qs that keep teleporting me away from the good stuff?
                  "i can take this dracolich"

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    #10
                    Yes, nexus Q and v are rendered helpless.

                    In any case, I have since found Stormwalker and an Elven cloak, so I gave up 3 stealth for lightning immunity and the ability to escape. Much, much safer, even with stealth falling from Excellent to Fair.

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                    • Pete Mack
                      Prophet
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6883

                      #11
                      I have since found a ring of speed +8, which let me swap in the boots of Thror, for 70-odd less HP and 11 base speed, with a cloak of aman (rNether) instead instead of 8 speed with Elvenkind. I eventually gave up "weaponmastery for the Necklace of the dwarves, maintaining the amulet as my only source of free action.

                      But all that is now changed. At DL 80, Dwar just dropped Cambeleg, giving a huge improvement in equipment flexibility--not to mention 30HP better melee than gloves of power. Now doing 1000 dam/turn vs Ubdead with the Trident, and 635 vs Evil.

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