LCC3 progress

[LCC]

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I decided to start an AAR thread for my Dunadan Priest LCC3 because I find myself in need of advice. I am clvl 33 loitering on dlvl 40 because I am only speed +3. At this point in LCC1 I was speed +8. How deep can I go SAFELY at +3 with two staffs of speed?

[Sirridan]

You have telepathy, so you could theoretically go down to 98.... But anyhoo go down to 50 or 55 and try to grab a Godly Insights so you can get detect monsters, that will save your ass from drolems and the like which will ruin your day yet don't show on dEvil and tele.

[Magnate]

How deep can I go SAFELY at +3 with two staffs of speed?

At +3 hasted you're at +13, which means you're safe from double moves unless the monster moves "very quickly" or "incredibly quickly". There aren't many of the former, and very few of the latter, and given that you have good detection you can spot these risky baddies and avoid engaging them. So you have no good reason not to dive straight to 4000' and look for speed rings.

[LCC]

Thanks for the advice. Clvl 33 on 40 going down to 50 for books. I killed Lorgan, Nar the Dwarf, and Mim betrayer of Turin. Got bow Beltrhonding, which gave resist disenchantment, so I sold my cloak of Aman resist disenchantment and wore cloak Colluin which gave resist poison, so I stashed the ring resist poison and wore the ring damage +10...
Now hitting 4@47+, shooting 2@91.5+, HP393, SP257, AC135+5 prayer, base str 18/90, int 18/21, wis 18/94, dex 18/90, con 18/46, chr 14, speed 4.

[LCC]

Promoted clvl 34 on dlvl 50 - turns/clvl of 29916 on schedule for victory in 1.5 meg turns, HP406, SP265, AC152, hitting 4@37 acid branded by wearing =acid [+12] instead of =damage (+11). Wearing "regeneration instead of "wis+6 - stashed it in case I change my mind. Base now str 18/94, dex 18/93. I want ! augmentation, not these slowly appearing single stat potions!

[Pete Mack]

With AoWis, what's your fail rate on the Healing spell? If it's reasonably low, that's by far the better choice.

[LCC]

With AoWis, what's your fail rate on the Healing spell? If it's reasonably low, that's by far the better choice.

That is why I stashed the Amulet for later. Right now the heal of book 4 E&D is 1% fail for 300 HP, and I always heal when I am down 200, so it is good enough for HP of 457...

Got another profitable level 50 - felt "a little lucky". Got FPA of Isildur, sold MBA Rhohirrim. Killed Uldor the Accursed, got and sold gauntlets Paurnen. Found a hvy xbow of extra shots and sold the xbow in home to store the new xbow. Now HP457, SP255, AC161+5 prayer, hitting 4x35+, shooting 2x94.5+, got ! con to base 18/68.

[LCC]

Level 50 felt "very good" - was my 2nd lesser vault (1st was level 20 & had trash). This time I got the Arkenstone of Thrain, wore it & sold Phial of Galadriel. Swapped weapons to Nar-i-vagil & stashed scimitar in home. Needed wisdom so wore "wis+6 from home & stashed " regeneration in home. Looked over spoiler and decided to stay on 50 a while. I can get Cubragol, Dor-Lomin, Feanor, s.c. Luthien, and Fingolfin on 50. My speed of +4 sucks - everything is guarded by impact hounds. I recharged my staffs of speed one by one to 13 charges on 3 staffs. I now have all resistances except shards, nether, and chaos. I lost regeneration but do not miss it yet...

HP457, SP255, AC 160+5 prayer, no stat gains, hit 4@44/54, shoot 2@100.5, speed +4

[LCC]

Level 50 felt good, but was a jelly pit. Promoted clvl 35 at 29645 turns/ clvl. Found MCM Belegennon and stashed it in home - rPoison. Got PB Godly Insights off an Ethereal dragon. Killed Scatha the worm and got gauntlets Pauraegen - sold them. HP467, SP263, all else same...

[LCC]

Level 50 was unsure. I got ACM Caspanion clearing a troll pit - later stashed it in home. I killed Itangast and got flail Totila - sold it later. I killed Smaug and got 30 seeker arrows of slay evil. Then I used the arrows on a Master Lich and got LS Anguirel which I later sold. My pack was getting full, and I was about to recall when I noticed that I had detected a pair of leather boots in a cross room. So I went to them and they were Feanor!!! How about THAT for an UNSURE level???

I had a =con +4 in my pack and swapped it for the =dam +11 - stashed that, because I lost Con from Thror. I picked up my scimitar again because with boots of Thror sold, I lost resist fear. So I am carrying Nar-i-vagil as a swap. I found a staff *destuction* and am carrying it JIC. I no longer carry beginner's handbook. I sold helm Holhenneth to free up a slot. I bought out the temple 4 times to get more prayer books E&D because the two dragon fights burned up two out of three of them and I had only eight stashed at home - now have 13 stashed. Gold 367k now.

HP485, SP267, AC157+5, speed +16, hitting 4@21+, swap 4@30+, shooting 2@138+, I NEED a better weapon! I will stay on 50 until I get it...

[LCC]

Killed Castamir, Kavlax, and waldern - got junk. Promoted clvl 36 on dlvl 50 at 29358 turns/ clvl. HP498, SP275, AC145+5 prayer, hitting 4@32 with ring damage rather than acid, now base wis 18/98, chr 18/30. I have stopped selling stuff to the stores at 430k gold except exceptional worth 5k or more.

[LCC]

Promoted clvl 37 on dlvl 50 on fourth trip, turns/ clvl now 29071. High value monsters have been scarce since I got Feanor. Found and sold CM of Arvedui, dagger Nimthanc. Found & discarded helm of Gorlim. I wish that I could get more pits and vaults. I have not seen a single zoo so far. No change in equipment, HP530, SP283, AC 145+5 prayer, base str 18/94, int 18/50, wis 18/99, dex 18/95, con 18/77, chr 18/30, speed 16.

[Pete Mack]

You may have fished out the pond for high-value monsters at dl 50. With those stats you can go quite a bit deeper in reasonable safety (the only thing that can kill you in a single turn is nether breath (550) and max-strength (533) elemental damage at single resist (IE: electricity). Avoid it.)

[LCC]

You may have fished out the pond for high-value monsters at dl 50. With those stats you can go quite a bit deeper in reasonable safety (the only thing that can kill you in a single turn is nether breath (550) and max-strength (533) elemental damage at single resist (IE: electricity). Avoid it.)

Thanks for the advice. I will go deeper when I get HP800+ or reach level 42, whichever comes first. In LCC1 I stayed on level 50 until I had HP870, SP326, and clvl 41. With my lower con and poor equipment, especially my weapon, I am reluctant to face demons, and wyrms. So I will just have to keep on killing troll pits and dragons. Besides, there is nothing that I can get deeper that I really need until Deathwreaker at dlvl 80+. See the wish list of artifacts in a previous post - 1 down - boots Feanor.

[LCC]

Promoted level 38 on fifth trip to dlvl 50, turns/ clvl now 28988. Killed Khim, Quaker, Uvatha, Ariel, and Eol for 29/47 unique. The other 18 had escorts so I let them live. I was advised to let any unique with escorts live if they are weak so that when Sauron and Morgoth summon they get harmless monsters instead of summoning black reavers. The escorts are a valuable source of experience and items too, so I just teleport away the unique. Found LSM Thalkettoth - stashed, and gauntlets Camlost with heavy curse - trashed them.

HP569, SP291, AC145+5 prayer, hitting 4@33+, shooting 2@ 118+, speed 16, saving throw 100%. 571k gold and very little worth buying. Base str 18/96, int 18/60, wis 18/100, dex 18/95, con 18/87, chr 18/44.

I need equipment that improves strength and constitution! That means IH Dor-Lomin +4 and LG Cambeleg +2...