The Angband Ladder: Eerial, Edain Hador no-class by <p*nyp*ster@gmail.xom>

  [Sil-Q 1.5.0-beta1 Character Dump]

 Name   Eerial        Age       28       Str   4 =  2  +1      +1
 Race   Edain         Height  5'11       Dex   5 =  2          +3
 House  Hador         Weight   178       Con   9 =  3  +2      +4
                                         Gra   3 =  2  +1

 Game Turn   32,507   Melee (+33,2d13)   Melee       33 = 20  +5  +5  +3
 Exp Pool     1,373   Bows   (+13,2d6)   Archery     13 =  3  +5  +5
 Total Exp   91,873   Armor [+23,5-17]   Evasion     23 = 17  +5  +1
 Burden       132.5                      Stealth      9 =  6  +5  -2
 Max Burden   207.3   Health    77:103   Perception  12 =  9  +3
 Depth           0'   Voice      34:34   Will        16 = 12  +3  +1
 Min Depth       0'                      Smithing    16 = 13  +3
 Light Radius     7                      Song        14 = 11  +3

 You are one of several children of a craftsman. You were a well liked
 child. You have blue eyes, straight auburn hair, and a fair
 complexion.





  [Last Messages]

> You have 2 Black Potions of Dexterity (j).
> You feel yourself moving faster!
> You have no more Sky Blue Potions of Quickness (g).
> You slam into the door!
> The door crashes open!
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst bites you.
> You have been poisoned.
> You impale the Troll guard! <2x>
> There is a pile of rubble in the way!
> You have found a trap.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst bites you!
> You have been badly poisoned.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst misses you.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst bites you.
> You have been further poisoned.


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) a Glaive of Gondolin (+0,2d9) [+1] {@w1} 5.0 lb
   It slays orcs and trolls.  It requires both hands to wield it
   properly.  It counts as a type of polearm.  
b) a Longbow of the Marchwardens (+0,2d4) 2.0 lb
   It provides resistance to fear.  It grants you the ability to
   see invisible creatures.  It can shoot arrows 18 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) a Bronze Ring of Accuracy (+3)
d) a Bronze Ring of Accuracy (+2)
e) an Obsidian Amulet of Constitution <+1>
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It sustains your 
   constitution.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) The Mail Corslet of Fingon [-3,2d4] <+1>
   It increases your constitution and grace by 1.  It provides
   resistance to fear.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
h) a Shadow Cloak [+4] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  
i) (nothing)
j) The Great Helm of Dor-Lomin [-2,1d4] <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It improves your will by 1.
   It provides resistance to fear and stunning.  It cannot be
   harmed by the elements.  
k) a Set of Mithril Gauntlets of Vigour [+1,1d2]
   It provides resistance to bleeding.  It speeds your
   regeneration (which increases your hunger while active).  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  
l) The Pair of Greaves of the Helcaraxe [+0,1d3]
   It provides resistance to cold.  It sustains all your stats.  
   It speeds your regeneration (which increases your hunger
   while active).  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
m) 91 Arrows
   They can be shot 18 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 39 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 18 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 13 Pale Green Herbs of Rage
b) a Clear Potion of Miruvor
c) 13 Murky Brown Potions of Orcish Liquor
d) 11 Sparkling Blue Potions of Clarity
e) 7 Golden Potions of Healing
f) 12 Pale Green Potions of Antidote
g) 2 Dark Blue Potions of Elemental Resistance
h) 3 Vermilion Potions of Strength
i) 2 Black Potions of Dexterity
j) 3 Cloudy Potions of Constitution
k) a Brazen Horn of Thunder
l) a Tapered Horn of Force
m) an Ivory Horn of Blasting
n) a Birch Staff of Treasures (2 charges)
o) a Twisted Staff of Foes (4 charges)
p) a Gnarled Staff of Warding (4 charges)
q) a Ruby Ring of Free Action
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
r) 2 Silmarils
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
s) a Mithril Helm of Clarity [+0,1d4]
   It provides resistance to confusion, stunning, and 
   hallucination.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
t) The Pair of Boots of Finrod [+3,1d1]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by
   the elements.  
u) The Glaive of Gaurin (-1,2d9) [+1] <+3> {@w5} 8.0 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 3.  It cuts easily through
   armour.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It requires
   both hands to wield it properly.  It counts as a type of
   polearm.  
v) a Glaive of Nargothrond (+0,2d9) [+1] {@w3} 6.0 lb
   It slays dragons and raukar.  It requires both hands to wield
   it properly.  It counts as a type of polearm.  


  [Abilities]

Polearm Mastery
Charge
Impale
Smite
Strength
Rout
Dodging
Sprinting
Flanking
Controlled Retreat
Disguise
Exchange Places
Focused attack
Alchemy
Rauko-Bane
Strength in Adversity
Poison Resistance
Constitution
Weaponsmith
Armoursmith
Jeweller
Enchantment
Song of Silence


  [Enemies]

 12 / 37  Wolf                                    
  2 / 18  Tanglethorn                             
 10 / 12  Orc skirmisher                          
  3 /  3  Grimhawk                                
 15 / 15  Mewlip                                  
  9 / 10  Orc scout                               
 13 / 13  Spider hatchling                        
  4 /  5  Blue serpent                            
 17 / 20  Orc soldier                             
  4 / 14  Madthorn                                
  9 /  9  Gorcrow                                 
  3 /  3  Brood spider                            
 19 / 22  Orc archer                              
 27 / 34  White wolf                              
  7 /  8  Red serpent                             
 36 / 44  Orc warrior                             
 10 / 11  Sword spider                            
 24 / 24  Crebain                                 
  2 /  2  Phantom                                 
 10 / 10  Attercop                                
  4 /  4  Nightthorn                              
  3 /  3  Green serpent                           
 11 / 11  Mountain troll                          
  4 /  5  Tattered wight                          
 15 / 47  Orc champion                            
 18 / 25  Easterling warrior                      
 13 / 13  Hummerhorn                              
  (seen)  Balcmeg, the Relentless 
  7 / 19  Orc captain                             
 19 / 22  Warg                                    
  4 /  4  Grave wight                             
 10 / 10  Dark serpent                            
  (slain) Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs 
134 /135  Whispering shadow                       
 13 / 15  Distended spider                        
  4 /  8  Easterling archer                       
  2 /  2  Twisted bat                             
  (slain) Othrod, the Orc Lord 
 22 / 25  Snow troll                              
  1 /  1  Barrow wight                            
  3 /  3  Lurking horror                          
 21 / 25  Giant                                   
  8 / 15  Easterling spy                          
  4 /  4  Shadow bat                              
  7 /  7  Sulrauko                                
  2 /  2  Fire-drake hatchling                    
  (slain) Ulfang the Black 
 19 / 24  Werewolf                                
  9 / 10  Shadow spider                           
  1 /  2  Shadow                                  
  1 /  4  Sapphire serpent                        
  (slain) Gilim, the Giant of Eruman 
  3 /  6  Ruby serpent                            
  3 /  4  Creeping horror                         
 17 / 21  Ringrauko                               
  (seen)  Delthaur, Balrog of Terror 
  (seen)  Nan, the Giant 
 19 / 21  Cave troll                              
  5 /  5  Emerald serpent                         
  1 /  2  Oathwraith                              
 62 / 73  Cat warrior                             
  7 / 10  Amethyst serpent                        
 11 / 12  Kemenrauko                              
  7 /  8  Grotesque                               
  3 /  3  Young cold-drake                        
  (slain) Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper 
  (slain) Belegwath, Balrog of Shadow 
  8 /  9  Spectre                                 
 15 / 18  Spider of Gorgoroth                     
 15 / 28  Greater werewolf                        
  2 /  2  Adamant serpent                         
 15 / 22  Lesser vampire                          
 13 / 17  Cat assassin                            
  (slain) Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo 
  0 /  2  Young fire-drake                        
  9 /  9  Darting horror                          
  8 / 11  Wraith                                  
 39 / 47  Ururauko                                
  (slain) Tevildo, Prince of Cats 
  (slain) Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts 
  4 /  4  Ancient sapphire serpent                
132 /166  Troll guard                             
 16 / 25  Vampire                                 
  3 /  9  Nameless thing                          
  (slain) Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin 
 21 / 30  Ancient ruby serpent                    
  5 / 17  Great cold-drake                        
  7 /  9  Silent watcher                          
 14 / 26  Gwathrauko                              
  (slain) Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves 
  (slain) Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame 
  3 /  3  Ancient spider                          
  6 /  8  Ancient emerald serpent                 
 17 / 31  Vampire lord                            
  (slain) Dagorhir, the Elfbane 
  4 /  8  Ancient amethyst serpent                
  0 /  1  Great fire-drake                        
 15 / 17  Hithrauko                               
  (slain) Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs 
  1 /  4  Ancient adamant serpent                 
  0 /  6  Unrelenting horror                      
  (slain) Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger 
  (slain) Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs 
  (seen)  Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth 
  (slain) Morgoth, Lord of Darkness 
  (seen)  Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst 


  [Artefacts]

The Serpentine Ring of Barahir (found)
The Ring of Melian (found)
The Pearl 'Nimphelos' (found)
The Ring of Mairon 
The Galvorn Armour of Maeglin (found)
The Mail Corslet of Fingon (found)
The Dagger 'Angrist' 
The Longsword 'Orcrist' 
The Longsword 'Narsil' 
The Battle Axe 'Dramborleg' (found)
The Battle Axe of Mothers' Woe (found)
The Glaive of Gaurin (found)
The Glaive of the Sirion (found)
The Helm of the Oathbreaker (found)
The Great Helm of Dor-Lomin (found)
The Dwarf Mask of the Dwarrowdelf (found)
The Cloak of Maglor (found)
The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin (found)
The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil (found)
The Pair of Boots of Finrod (found)
The Pair of Greaves of the Helcaraxe (found)
The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth (found)
The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (found)


  [Notes]

Eerial of the Edain
Entered Angband on 12 Aug 2021

   Turn     Depth   Note

      2     50 ft   (Enchantment)
      2     50 ft   (Strength in Adversity)
  1,223    100 ft   (Weaponsmith)
  1,851    100 ft   Made a Glaive of Gondolin (-1,2d9) [+1]  5.5 lb
  1,991    100 ft   Made a Great Spear of Doriath (+1,1d13) [+1]  4.0 lb
  2,127    100 ft   Made a Longbow of the Marchwardens (+0,2d4)  2.0 lb
  2,167    100 ft   (Polearm Mastery)
  2,410    150 ft   (Rout)
  4,615    300 ft   (Armoursmith)
  4,931    300 ft   Made a Pair of Greaves of Nogrod [-1,1d2]  6.0 lb
  5,378    300 ft   Made a Set of Gauntlets of Vigour [+0,1d1]  3.0 lb
  5,736    300 ft   Made a Mail Corslet of Protection [-3,2d5]  23.0 lb
  6,561    400 ft   (Impale)
  7,006    400 ft   (Jeweller)
  7,182    400 ft   Made a Bronze Ring of Accuracy (+2)  0.1 lb
  7,388    400 ft   Made a Bronze Ring of Accuracy (+2)  0.1 lb
  7,564    400 ft   Made a Glaive of Nargothrond (+0,2d9) [+1]  6.0 lb
  8,145    450 ft   Encountered Othrod, the Orc Lord
  8,160    450 ft   Slew Othrod, the Orc Lord
  8,381    450 ft   (Dodging)
  9,021    500 ft   (Flanking)
  9,210    500 ft   Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  9,235    500 ft   Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  9,783    500 ft   (Sprinting)
 10,735    500 ft   Made an Obsidian Amulet of Constitution <+1>  0.1 lb
 11,352    500 ft   Made a Glaive of Final Rest (+0,2d9) [+1]  6.0 lb
 12,417    500 ft   Made a Mithril Corslet of Resilience [-2,2d4] <+1>  11.0 
                    lb 
 12,591    500 ft   Made a Feanorian Lamp of Brightness  1.0 lb
 12,744    550 ft   Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
 12,836    550 ft   Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
 12,836    550 ft   Found The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
 12,839    550 ft   (Alchemy)
 13,047    550 ft   Found The Battle Axe of Mothers' Woe
 13,461    550 ft   (Charge)
 13,783    550 ft   Encountered Nan, the Giant
 14,422    600 ft   (Poison Resistance)
 14,500    600 ft   Encountered Ulfang the Black
 14,850    600 ft   Slew Ulfang the Black
 15,124    600 ft   Encountered Delthaur, Balrog of Terror
 16,202    650 ft   (Controlled Retreat)
 17,024    700 ft   (Disguise)
 17,024    700 ft   (Exchange Places)
 17,195    700 ft   Made a Set of Mithril Gauntlets of Vigour [+1,1d2]  1.5 
                    lb 
 17,515    700 ft   Made a Pair of Greaves of Nogrod [+0,1d2]  7.0 lb
 17,781    700 ft   Made a Mithril Helm of Clarity [+0,1d4]  4.0 lb
 18,310    700 ft   Made a Cloak of the Golden Flower [+2]  1.5 lb
 18,808    700 ft   Made a Mattock of Belegost (-5,5d2) <+3>  7.0 lb
 18,963    700 ft   Made a Glaive of Gondolin (+0,2d9) [+1]  5.0 lb
 19,084    700 ft   Made an Ivory Horn of Blasting  1.0 lb
 19,472    750 ft   Encountered Belegwath, Balrog of Shadow
 19,552    750 ft   Destroyed Belegwath, Balrog of Shadow
 19,552    750 ft   Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
 19,553    750 ft   Found The Glaive of Gaurin
 19,623    750 ft   (Rauko-Bane)
 21,128    800 ft   Made a Set of Mithril Gauntlets of Might [+0,1d1] <+1>  
                    1.5 lb 
 21,288    800 ft   Made a Pair of Mithril Greaves of Nogrod [+0,1d3]  4.0 
                    lb 
 21,583    800 ft   Made a Mithril Helm of Brilliance [+0,1d4]  4.0 lb
 21,649    800 ft   Found The Pair of Boots of Finrod
 21,957    800 ft   Encountered Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 22,097    800 ft   Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 22,571    850 ft   Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 22,897    800 ft   Found The Pair of Greaves of the Helcaraxe
 23,350    800 ft   Fell into a chasm
 23,369    900 ft   (Smite)
 23,405    900 ft   Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 23,405    900 ft   Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 23,417    900 ft   Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 23,417    900 ft   Found The Cloak of Maglor
 23,435    900 ft   Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 23,435    900 ft   Found The Battle Axe 'Dramborleg'
 23,470    900 ft   Found The Dwarf Mask of the Dwarrowdelf
 23,470    900 ft   Found The Great Helm of Dor-Lomin
 23,470    900 ft   Found The Helm of the Oathbreaker
 24,018    950 ft   Entered Gothmog's hall
 24,029    950 ft   Encountered Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
 24,091    950 ft   (Focused attack)
 24,153    950 ft   Destroyed Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 24,162    950 ft   Destroyed Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
 24,755    950 ft   (Strength)
 25,663    900 ft   Encountered Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin
 25,679    900 ft   Slew Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin
 25,679    900 ft   Found The Galvorn Armour of Maeglin
 25,693    900 ft   Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 25,753    900 ft   Destroyed Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 25,878    900 ft   Encountered Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 25,927    900 ft   Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 25,927    900 ft   Found The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin
 26,840    950 ft   (Constitution)
 26,941    950 ft   Encountered Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
 26,968    950 ft   Destroyed Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
 27,740    950 ft   Found The Glaive of the Sirion
 29,727    950 ft   Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 29,740    950 ft   Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 29,931  1,000 ft   Entered Morgoth's throne room
 29,931  1,000 ft   (Song of Silence)
 29,987  1,000 ft   Found The Ring of Melian
 30,292  1,000 ft   Encountered Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 30,333  1,000 ft   Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
 30,420  1,000 ft   Slew Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 30,420  1,000 ft   Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
 30,425  1,000 ft   Found The Pearl 'Nimphelos'
 30,488  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 30,507  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 30,508  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 30,591  1,000 ft   Encountered Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
 30,595  1,000 ft   Encountered Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
 31,376    450 ft   Fell into a chasm
 31,487    550 ft   Slew Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
 31,487    550 ft   Found The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil
 31,667    450 ft   Encountered Balcmeg, the Relentless
 32,312     Gates   Entered The Gates of Angband
 32,493     Gates   Encountered Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

 32,507     Gates   You escaped the Iron Hells on 13 August 2021.
 32,507     Gates   You brought back all three Silmarils from Morgoth's 
                    crown! 




  ['Score' 141367493]


Posted on 13.8.2021 00:44

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On 13.8.2021 14:47 Tyrael wrote:
Tried to write a comment last time but it didn't push through, so I just recovered an old account. Anyway.

Finally got around winning an edain morgothslayer wearer of sil-q. My strategy was simple, extremely dumb and required me to smash my head against a wall for a couple years (I only won a smith with a single sil run as a dorf a couple years back), especially with the new smithing reworks buffing the earlygame and greatly nerfing the lategame.

Basically what I did was abuse SiA (and die over and over to *thorns/spiders and whatnot trying to get to 8 HP consistently between 100', 300' and 500', which over the years would get extremely frustrating) for that sweet sweet +3 grace, which turned every forge into a pseudo-enchanted forge and an enchanted forge into pseudo-Orodruth (none on this run sadly, but I did get 2 extra forge at 400' which were super welcome).

On a regular run I would smith DL11 weapons at 100', DL 13 armor at 300' and DL15/ jewellery at 500', effectively giving me a full set of slays and +4 acc and sustab+regen, which is really nothing to sneeze at. Of course, I would need to get lucky enough not to die to the dudes just to get those results, which meant I have something like a backlog of dead dudes in the hundreds. But throw enough edains at the wall and one will eventually stick, I guess! This was the one.

As you'd expect putting more xp into smithing than melee and evasion combined, on an edain of all things, made this character a real glass cannon, so this build was incredibly reliant on polearm mastery and controlled retreat (which was why I had so much trouble with fast uniques) and I had the incredible luck to get me Gaurin from a lucky belegwath drop.

In any case, my morgy strat was highly unusual (as you'd expect when trying to kill something that can land a 8d10 blow to the head for nearly twice your evasion rating :). Thanks to Gaurin and the extra strength point I dug through the walls of the throne room to create a huge *band antisummoning corridor. We're talking literally all the left half of the screen turned into zig-zags here. The idea came to me in the middle of the night a month ago and I wizmoded it the day after, it seemed definitely viable.

What I did was simply quaff quickness, sing silence, boost my will (obviously I would be doing that by default, for that sweet sweet extra CON point) and get just above morgoth's enraged 30 will (with free action from finrod) and simply get ahead of morgoth on the next bend. I'd wait for him, he'd fall on Gaurin because of polearm mastery, helped of course with the disgusting amount of +acc I had in rink form and all the points I put into melee AND focused strike, giving me something like +40 to-hit on morgoth every time, and then hit him again with lower accuracy with the help of controlled retreat, to keep his regen in check and whittle away at his HP while I kept out of reach of his big bad hammer. Kiting him worked so well that he actually never hit me once (luckily, or I'd have been toast) and sharpness even helped me get around his annoying shield. He stopped singing after a while (probably got out of breath while running to get me, the poor lad) at just the right time for me to continue kiting him while my will scores were pitiful compared to his, and just at the end I gave him a right whack with smite in a hail mary while he was at * at the very end of the corridor I had made, and killed the bastard.

Definitely recommend trying out this strategy yourself, you can basically only get around it if you smith/find a polearm with sharpness (or get whetting going on a polearm) and have belegost in your back pocket obviously.

Definitely feel like smithing got a much needed rework in 1.5. Not being able to smith +smithing gear and lowering the costs of most stuff definitely makes enchantment a worthwhile investment even for a non-smithing focused build, especially since the only guaranteed forges are now evenly distributed in the early to mid-game.

To quote the ancient scriptures, one day he did.
Polearms a best.
Edain pride world wide.

On 17.8.2021 22:08 MicroChasm wrote:
That was an interesting read. The throneroom strategy is pretty interesting.

Congrats on the Edain Morgoth-killer!

On 22.8.2021 20:06 Quirk wrote:
This is super sweet. I love it. Thanks for the detailed writeup.

Winning with an Edain vs Morgoth puts you in a small and hallowed category.

On 22.8.2021 20:36 Quirk wrote:
Even smaller and more hallowed than I thought. The only recorded Morgoth kill with an Edain on this board is ster's and he did that with the help of earthquakes.

Hugely impressive.

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