The Angband Ladder: Sered Doriath, Sindar Doriath no-class by Filubu

  [Sil-Q 1.3.2-q Character Dump]

 Name   Sered Doriath         Age      328       Str   3 =  1  +2
 Sex    Female        Height  5'10       Dex   8 =  3  +3      +2
 Race   Sindar        Weight   154       Con   3
 House  Doriath                          Gra  10 =  5  +3      +2

 Game Turn   23,762   Melee  (+17,3d9)   Melee       17 =  0  +8      +9
 Exp Pool     2,167   Bows  (+26,1d11)   Archery     26 = 16  +8  +1  +1
 Total Exp   74,667   Armor  [+10,4-5]   Evasion     10 =  0  +8  +2
 Burden       133.2                      Stealth     10 = 12  +8  -2  -8
 Max Burden   172.8   Health     34:34   Perception  20 = 10 +10
 Depth           0'   Voice     97:123   Will        10 =  0 +10
 Min Depth       0'   Song    Elbereth   Smithing    10 =  0 +10
 Light Radius     5                      Song        38 = 21 +10  +6  +1

 You are one of several children of a Sindar bard. You have light grey
 eyes, straight brown hair, and a fair complexion.






  [Last Messages]

> The Arrow breaks.
> You have 93 Arrows (m).
> The Arrow hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!
> The Arrow breaks.
> You have 92 Arrows (m).
> The Arrow hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!
> The Arrow breaks.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst flees in terror!
> You have 91 Arrows (m).
> The Arrow hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst dies.
> The Arrow breaks.
> You end your song.
> Excessive skills!
> You begin a song to the Queen of the Stars.


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) a Mithril Greatsword of Shadows (+0,3d6) [+1] <+2> 4.0 lb
   It improves your song by 2.  It creates an unnatural darkness.
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It requires both hands
   to wield it properly.  
b) a Dragon-horn Bow of Radiance (+1,1d9) 2.5 lb
   It fires shining arrows.  It can shoot arrows 16 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) a Sapphire Ring of Dexterity <+2>
   It increases your dexterity by 2.  It sustains your dexterity.
   
d) a Jet Ring of Strength <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It sustains your strength.  
   
e) The Pearl 'Nimphelos' <+2>
   It increases your grace by 2.  It sustains your grace.  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) The Robe of Andreth [+2] <+2>
   It improves your song by 2.  It sustains your grace.  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  
h) The Cloak of Maglor [+1] <+2>
   It improves your song by 2.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It grants you the ability: Song of the Trees.  
i) (nothing)
j) a Crown of Grace [+0,1d1] <+1>
   It increases your grace by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
k) The Set of Gauntlets 'Azdulag' [-1,2d1] <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants
   you the ability: Knock Back.  
l) The Pair of Greaves of Orodreth [-1,1d2] <+1>
   It increases your dexterity by 1.  It provides resistance to 
   fire.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
m) 91 Arrows
   They can be shot 16 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 31 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 16 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 4 Grey Herbs of Rage
b) a Pale Herb of Sustenance
c) 2 Russet Herbs of Restoration
d) a Strip of Dried Meat
e) 3 Clear Potions of Miruvor
f) 9 Murky Brown Potions of Orcish Liquor
g) 11 Brown Potions of Healing
h) 4 Sparkling Potions of Antidote
i) 4 Copper Speckled Potions of Quickness
j) 2 Vermilion Potions of Strength
k) a Dark Blue Potion of Dexterity
l) 3 Green Potions of Constitution
m) a Walnut Staff of Recharging (10 charges)
n) 2 Silmarils
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
o) The Mail Corslet of Fingon [-3,2d4] <+1>
   It increases your constitution and grace by 1.  It provides
   resistance to fear.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
p) The Mail Corslet of Durin (-1) [-3,3d3]
   It provides resistance to cold and fire.  It speeds your
   regeneration (which increases your hunger while active).  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  
q) a Shadow Cloak of Stealth [+4] <+5>
   It improves your stealth by 5.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  
r) The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil (-1) [+2] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It grants you the ability: Disguise.  
s) a Set of Gloves of Archery <+3>
   It improves your archery by 3.  
t) The Dagger 'Angrist' (+0,1d5) 0.5 lb
   It cuts very easily through armour.  It can be thrown
   effectively (13 squares).  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
u) The Shortsword 'Dagmor' (+2,1d8) [+1] <+1> 2.0 lb
   It increases your grace by 1.  It provides resistance to fear.
   It lights the dungeon around you.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
v) a Longbow of Quickness (+1,2d6) 3.5 lb
   It grants you the ability: Rapid Fire.  It can shoot arrows
   20 squares (with your current strength).
w) 17 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 16 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Abilities]

Precision
Versatility
Crippling Shot
Flaming Arrows
Dexterity
Disguise
Vanish
Coup de Grace
Dexterity
Keen Senses
Alchemy
Listen
Grace
Song of Elbereth
Song of Silence
Song of Delvings
Song of Lorien
Song of Mastery
Grace


  [Enemies]

  0 /  7  Tanglethorn                             
  4 / 18  Orc                                     
  5 /  5  Grimhawk                                
  3 /  6  Orc scout                               
  6 /  7  Spider hatchling                        
  1 /  3  Blue serpent                            
  6 / 12  Orc soldier                             
  0 /  7  Madthorn                                
  2 /  2  Gorcrow                                 
 16 / 23  Orc archer                              
 10 / 18  White wolf                              
  2 /  4  Red serpent                             
  (slain) Gorgol, the Butcher 
 12 / 35  Orc warrior                             
  2 /  3  Sword spider                            
  7 /  7  Crebain                                 
  3 /  3  Mewlip                                  
  2 /  3  Nightthorn                              
  2 /  4  Green serpent                           
  1 /  4  Mountain troll                          
  2 /  2  Tattered wight                          
  (slain) Boldog, the Merciless 
 13 / 62  Orc champion                            
  4 /  8  Easterling warrior                      
  9 / 12  Hummerhorn                              
  5 /  6  Orc captain                             
  7 / 20  Warg                                    
  1 /  1  Grave wight                             
  1 /  1  Dark serpent                            
 13 / 14  Whispering shadow                       
  4 /  5  Distended spider                        
  6 / 11  Easterling archer                       
  2 /  3  Twisted bat                             
  (slain) Othrod, the Orc Lord 
  9 / 18  Snow troll                              
  2 /  2  Lurking horror                          
  5 / 11  Giant                                   
 15 / 15  Easterling spy                          
  5 /  5  Shadow bat                              
  2 /  7  Sulrauko                                
  5 /  7  Fire-drake hatchling                    
  3 /  7  Werewolf                                
  5 /  5  Shadow spider                           
  2 /  2  Shadow                                  
  (slain) Gilim, the Giant of Eruman 
  2 /  2  Ruby serpent                            
  3 /  4  Creeping horror                         
  7 / 11  Ringrauko                               
  (slain) Delthaur, Balrog of Terror 
  6 / 19  Cave troll                              
  1 /  1  Emerald serpent                         
  1 /  2  Oathwraith                              
 35 / 53  Cat warrior                             
  2 /  3  Amethyst serpent                        
  0 /  7  Kemenrauko                              
  1 /  3  Grotesque                               
  3 /  4  Young cold-drake                        
  4 /  9  Spider of Gorgoroth                     
 13 / 43  Greater werewolf                        
  1 /  3  Adamant serpent                         
  4 / 14  Lesser vampire                          
 20 / 24  Cat assassin                            
  (slain) Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo 
  0 /  1  Young fire-drake                        
  4 /  5  Darting horror                          
  0 / 18  Unmourned                               
 17 / 42  Ururauko                                
  (slain) Tevildo, Prince of Cats 
  (slain) Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts 
  2 /  6  Ancient sapphire serpent                
 37 /139  Troll guard                             
 15 / 38  Vampire                                 
  0 /  5  Nameless thing                          
  3 /  7  Ancient ruby serpent                    
  0 /  1  Great cold-drake                        
  0 /  2  Silent watcher                          
 12 / 47  Gwathrauko                              
  (slain) Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves 
  (seen)  Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame 
  6 /  6  Ancient spider                          
  4 /  5  Ancient emerald serpent                 
  8 / 20  Vampire lord                            
  (slain) Dagorhir, the Elfbane 
  (slain) Gostir, the Dread Glance 
  2 /  3  Ancient amethyst serpent                
 15 / 35  Hithrauko                               
  (seen)  Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs 
  2 /  2  Ancient adamant serpent                 
  0 /  2  Unrelenting horror                      
  (slain) Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger 
  (slain) Glaurung, the Deceiver 
  (slain) Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth 
  (slain) Morgoth, Lord of Darkness 
  (slain) Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst 


  [Artefacts]

The Pearl 'Nimphelos' (found)
The Robe of Andreth (found)
The Mail Corslet of Fingon (found)
The Mail Corslet of Durin 
The Dagger 'Angrist' (found)
The Shortsword 'Dagmor' (found)
The Shortsword of Galadriel (found)
The Longsword 'Glamdring' (found)
The Spear of Boldog (found)
The Battle Axe of Hurin (found)
The Cloak of Maglor (found)
The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin (found)
The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil (found)
The Shortbow of Celegorm 
The Pair of Greaves of Orodreth (found)
The Set of Gauntlets 'Azdulag' (found)
The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth (found)
The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (found)


  [Notes]

Sered of the Sindar
Entered Angband on 9 Mar 2018

   Turn     Depth   Note

      0     50 ft   (Song of Silence)
      0     50 ft   (Song of Lorien)
    264    100 ft   (Keen Senses)
  1,431    150 ft   (Precision)
  2,385    200 ft   (Disguise)
  2,709    300 ft   Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
  2,738    300 ft   Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
  3,414    350 ft   (Alchemy)
  3,896    350 ft   (Crippling Shot)
  4,893    350 ft   Encountered Boldog, the Merciless
  4,933    350 ft   Slew Boldog, the Merciless
  5,758    450 ft   Found The Spear of Boldog (from 350 ft)
  6,037    450 ft   Encountered Othrod, the Orc Lord
  7,476    450 ft   Slew Othrod, the Orc Lord
  7,987    450 ft   Found The Pair of Greaves of Orodreth
  8,054    450 ft   (Vanish)
  8,533    550 ft   Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
  8,678    550 ft   Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
  9,029    550 ft   (Listen)
 11,518    700 ft   (Dexterity)
 12,061    700 ft   Found The Pearl 'Nimphelos'
 12,067    700 ft   (Flaming Arrows)
 12,201    700 ft   (Dexterity)
 12,255    700 ft   Encountered Delthaur, Balrog of Terror
 12,313    700 ft   Destroyed Delthaur, Balrog of Terror
 13,388    700 ft   (Grace)
 14,281    800 ft   Found The Dagger 'Angrist'
 14,375    800 ft   Fell into a chasm
 15,710    900 ft   Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 15,789    900 ft   Encountered Gostir, the Dread Glance
 15,823    900 ft   Found The Shortsword 'Dagmor'
 15,957    900 ft   Slew Gostir, the Dread Glance
 15,986    900 ft   Found The Longsword 'Glamdring'
 15,989    900 ft   Found The Shortsword of Galadriel
 16,744    950 ft   Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 16,786    950 ft   (Grace)
 16,788    950 ft   Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 16,791    950 ft   Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 16,796    950 ft   Found The Battle Axe of Hurin
 17,711    950 ft   Encountered Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 17,820    950 ft   Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 17,836    950 ft   Found The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin
 17,918  1,000 ft   Entered Morgoth's throne room
 17,932  1,000 ft   Encountered Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
 17,997  1,000 ft   Encountered Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
 18,238  1,000 ft   Encountered Glaurung, the Deceiver
 18,238  1,000 ft   Encountered Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 18,238  1,000 ft   Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
 18,346  1,000 ft   Found The Cloak of Maglor
 18,480  1,000 ft   Found The Robe of Andreth
 18,482  1,000 ft   Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
 18,531  1,000 ft   (Song of Mastery)
 18,540  1,000 ft   Slew Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
 18,547  1,000 ft   Found The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil
 18,591  1,000 ft   Slew Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
 19,342  1,000 ft   (Dexterity)
 19,713  1,000 ft   Slew Glaurung, the Deceiver
 20,253  1,000 ft   Slew Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 20,253  1,000 ft   Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
 20,260  1,000 ft   Found The Set of Gauntlets 'Azdulag'
 20,533  1,000 ft   (Versatility)
 20,549  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 20,573  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 20,574  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 21,182    950 ft   Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 21,222    950 ft   Destroyed Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 21,371    950 ft   Encountered Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
 21,977    950 ft   Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 22,022    950 ft   Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 22,787    750 ft   (Song of Delvings)
 23,237     50 ft   Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 23,254     Gates   Entered The Gates of Angband
 23,672     Gates   (Song of Elbereth)
 23,676     Gates   Encountered Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
 23,755     Gates   Slew Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

 23,762     Gates   You escaped the Iron Hells on 09 March 2018.
 23,762     Gates   You brought back all three Silmarils from Morgoth's 
                    crown! 




  ['Score' 141376238]


Posted on 9.3.2018 22:01

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On 9.3.2018 22:02 Filubu wrote:
Didnt plan to but killed Morgoth
I had 10k+ xp in the throne room so when I found the cloak and the robe with +song I wanted to try song of mastery. Killed Thuringwethil then Gorthaur with no problem so I decided to try the big boss himself. He was able to take 2 steps during the fight. Wouldve been easier if I had scummed 950' for consumables or took concentration, I had to finish him with regular arrows and my only !grace ran out just a few turns after he died.
Also I think I accidentally loaded the save with the previous version at one point, cause I noticed I have coup de grace instead of the stealth dex point when I was in the throne room

On 11.3.2018 17:42 Quirk wrote:
Congratulations on the highest scoring run yet. Did you take Versatility in the throne room because you were running low on ammo? It looks a very efficient build - no points wasted in Melee, Evasion or Will. Also I'm curious how the early battles against Gorgol and Boldog were - was Lorien strong enough that you could just overwhelm them with it and pick them off at your leisure?

I'd be curious in general on your thoughts on the balance of the game right now, since clearly you've spent a lot of time getting very good at it.

On 11.3.2018 21:30 Filubu wrote:
>Did you take Versatility in the throne room because you were running low on ammo?
I took it primarily to help with sil-cutting, but it was also a great help to speed up murdering of perma-slept enemies
>early battles against Gorgol and Boldog
IIRC I was able to isolate Gorgol from his gang, and with the help of doors I could make him unwary then sleeping again before he regen'd too much health. He dropped +3 gloves of archery so the other uniques were not a problem with crippling shot + song of silence to avoid interference, and Lorien/vanish if they managed to get too close

For the balance, the biggest thing I can say is that Alchemy is just wayyy too good IMO. I basically never take the lore skills in vanilla Sil, but full ID of all pots, herbs, staves, horns, and it also tells you if something is cursed/artifact? I see 0 reason to ever not take it with how low it is in the tree.
I like the other changes, especially that now Im not forced to get song of sharpness for serpents, grotesques and the likes, just need to carry around a warhammer for them, and you cant kill Morgoth in every run
And I may be the only one but I miss throwing mastery for my edains :(

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