[PosChengband 3.4.4 Character Dump]


 Name       : Test                         ========== Stats ==========
 Sex        : Male                               STR  :         7
 Personality: Craven                             INT  :        16
 Race       : Ring                               WIS  :        13
 Controlling: Novice mage                        DEX  :        14
 Class      : Monster                            CON  :        13
                                                 CHR  :        12

 Level      :        6                           HP   :     60/60
 Cur Exp    :      174                           SP   :     22/22
 Max Exp    :      174                           AC   :        16
 Adv Exp    :      210                           Speed:        -1

                                           ========== Skills =========
 Gold       :      113                     Melee      : Poor
 Kills      :       23                     Ranged     : Poor
 Uniques    :        0                     SavingThrow: Very Good
 Artifacts  :        0                     Stealth    : Superb
                                           Perception : Fair
 Game Day   :        2                     Searching  : Poor
 Game Time  :     0:39                     Disarming  : Fair
 Play Time  :    00:16                     Device     : Superb


============================= Character Equipment =============================

a) a Ring


              =                                         =
              a@                                        a@
 Acid       : ..   0%                      Speed      : ..
 Elec       : .. -50%                      Free Act   : ..
 Fire       : ..   0%                      See Invis  : ..
 Cold       : ..   0%                      Warning    : ..
 Poison     : ..   0%                      SlowDigest : ..
 Light      : ..   0%                      Regenerate : ..
 Dark       : ..   0%                      Levitation : ..
 Confusion  : ..   0%                      Perm Lite  : .+
 Nether     : ..   0%                      Reflection : ..
 Nexus      : ..   0%                      Hold Life  : ..
 Sound      : ..   0%                      Sust Str   : ..
 Shards     : ..   0%                      Sust Int   : ..
 Chaos      : ..   0%                      Sust Wis   : ..
 Disenchant : ..   0%                      Sust Dex   : ..
 Time       : ..   0%                      Sust Con   : ..
 Blindness  : ..   0%                      Sust Chr   : ..
 Fear       : ..                           Dec Mana   : ..
 Aura Fire  : ..                           Easy Spell : ..
 Aura Elec  : ..                           Anti Magic : ..
 Aura Cold  : ..                           Telepathy  : ..


              =                                         =
              a@                                        a
 Slay Evil  : ..                           Telepathy  : ..
 Slay Undead: ..                           ESP Evil   : ..
 Slay Demon : ..                           ESP Noliv. : ..
 Slay Dragon: ..                           ESP Good   : ..
 Slay Human : ..                           ESP Undead : ..
 Slay Animal: ..                           ESP Demon  : ..
 Slay Orc   : ..                           ESP Dragon : ..
 Slay Troll : ..                           ESP Human  : ..
 Slay Giant : ..                           ESP Animal : ..
 Slay Good  : ..                           ESP Orc    : ..
 Acid Brand : ..                           ESP Troll  : ..
 Elec Brand : ..                           ESP Giant  : ..
 Fire Brand : ..                           Magic Skill: ..
 Cold Brand : ..                           Spell Pow  : ..
 Pois Brand : ..                           Spell Cap  : ..
 Mana Brand : ..                           Magic Res  : ..
 Sharpness  : ..                           Infravision: ..  50'
 Quake      : ..                           Stealth    : ..
 Vampiric   : ..                           Searching  : ..
 Chaotic    : ..                           Cursed     : ..
 Add Blows  : ..                           Rnd Tele   : ..
 Blessed    : ..                           No Tele    : ..
 Riding     : ..                           Drain Exp  : ..
 Tunnel     : ..                           Aggravate  : ..
 Throw      : ..                           TY Curse   : ..


              =
              a@   Base  R  C  P  E  Total
        STR : ..     11 -3  0 -1  0      7
        INT : ..     11  4  0  1  0     16
        WIS : ..     11  1  0  1  0     13
        DEX : ..     15  0  0 -1  0     14
        CON : ..     15 -1  0 -1  0     13
        CHR : ..     12  3  0 -3  0     12


=================================== Powers ====================================

                     Lvl Cost Fail Desc            Cast Fail
Absorb Jewelry         1    0   0%                    2    0   0%
Glitter                1    0   0%                  185    0   0%
Detect Jewelry         5    1  24%                    1    0   0%
Identify Jewelry      10   10 100%                    0    0   0%
Charm                 15   10 100% power 21           0    0   0%



=================================== Essences ==================================

   Stats                  Total  Need Bonus
   ---------------------- ----- ----- -----
   Intelligence               1     2    +0
   Charisma                   1     2    +0

   Skills                 Total  Need Bonus
   ---------------------- ----- ----- -----
   To AC                     10    11   +10

   Resistances            Total  Need Bonus
   ---------------------- ----- ----- -----

   Abilities              Total  Need Bonus
   ---------------------- ----- ----- -----

   ESP                    Total  Need Bonus
   ---------------------- ----- ----- -----


==================================== Spells ===================================

   Offense: Bolt                   Ct Lvl Cst Fail Info
   ------------------------------ --- --- --- ---- ----------------
   Magic Missile                    1   1   1  12% dam 2d6

   Teleportations                  Ct Lvl Cst Fail Info
   ------------------------------ --- --- --- ---- ----------------
   Phase Door                       1   3   3  23% 


=================================== Dungeons ==================================


 Now, you are in Outpost.


==================================== Quests ===================================
< Completed Quest >
  Nothing.

< Failed Quest >
  Nothing.


 Arena:  0 Victory


============================== Defeated Monsters ==============================

You have defeated 23 enemies.


=================================== Virtues ===================================

Your alighnment : Good

You are neutral to Honour.
You have strayed from the path of Compassion.
You are somewhat virtuous in Valour.
You are a great champion of Temperance.
You are neutral to Diligence.
You are somewhat virtuous in Patience.
You have strayed from the path of Justice.
You are neutral to Harmony.


==================================== Pets =====================================

 Leading Pets
  a Novice mage (controlling)

 Options
  Pets open doors:                    OFF
  Pets pick up items:                 OFF
  Allow teleport:                     ON
  Allow cast attack spell:            ON
  Allow cast summon spell:            ON
  Allow involve player in area spell: OFF


============================= Character Inventory =============================

a) 8 Rations of Food
b) 9 Scrolls of Teleportation



================================== Statistics =================================

  Objects Found    :     22
  Objects Bought   :      0
  Objects Destroyed:      0

  Potions              Found Bought  Used  Dest
  ---------------------------------------------

  Scrolls              Found Bought  Used  Dest
  ---------------------------------------------
  Teleportation           10      0     1     0
  Totals                  10      0     1     0

  Wands                Found Bought  Used  Dest
  ---------------------------------------------

  Staves               Found Bought  Used  Dest
  ---------------------------------------------

  Rods                 Found Bought  Used  Dest
  ---------------------------------------------

  Spellbooks           Found Bought  Used  Dest
  ---------------------------------------------


  Egos Found    :      0
  Egos Bought   :      0
  Egos Destroyed:      0

  Egos                 Found Bought  Dest
  ---------------------------------------


================================ Last Messages ================================

> Welcome to level 6.
> The Zog screams in pain.
> The Zog flees in terror!
> The Zog dies.
> You are getting hungry.
> Moderation in all things. <x27>
> The Novice priest sees you for what you truly are!
> The Novice priest hits you.
> The Novice priest grunts with pain.
> The Novice priest hits you.
> You failed to get the spell off!
> The Novice priest hits you.
> The Novice priest cries out in pain.
> The Novice priest hits you.
> Moderation in all things.
> The Novice priest cries out in pain.
> The Novice priest misses you.
> You failed to get the spell off!
> The Novice priest misses you.
> The Novice priest dies.
> Moderation in all things. <x16>
> The Kutar writhes in agony.
> The Kutar flees in terror!
> You failed to get the spell off!
> Moderation in all things.
> How heroic!
> The Kutar dies.
> Moderation in all things. <x14>
> The Novice mage says, 'Hark! What have we here?'
> The Novice mage picks you up.
> Moderation in all things.


=================================== Options ===================================

 Preserve Mode:      ON
 Small Levels:       ENABLED
 Arena Levels:       ENABLED

  [Check Sum: "ba2eccd7c1025c7556"]

Posted on 10.5.2015 21:23

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On 10.5.2015 21:23 wobbly wrote:
Well that take some patience

On 10.5.2015 21:25 wobbly wrote:
took I mean, my English is getting worse & worse. Craven Ring raised charisma at lvl 5. Glad I didn't have to kill things till lvl 15 & charm. Probably would of died of hunger first.

On 10.5.2015 23:06 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
That CHR is very low...that may explain why it was so hard to maintain Ring bearers.

On 10.5.2015 23:08 wobbly wrote:
Yep, was testing an extreme though. I also had problems up till 18/20. Then I tried 18/30 & bang, worked like clock-work.

On 10.5.2015 23:41 krazyhades wrote:
In a full hour of trying with a random-stats ordinary ring, I got 0 bearers.

On 10.5.2015 23:47 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
krazyhades...what CHR are you giving to your Ordinary Rings?

On 11.5.2015 00:07 krazyhades wrote:
I often start my characters with fully random stats for the fun of it. The ring that I randomly rolled up had a total CHR of 14. I used it to test claims that others in an offsite thread were making about being unable to get going at all. That save never got any bearers.

Other folks there said that only when they 100% min-maxed cha with personality and autoroller were they able to get a first bearer.

From what wobbly said, it sounds like he experienced a nearly clear cut point between 18/20 and 18/30 where he found a change in the bearers ability to notice.

On 11.5.2015 00:24 wobbly wrote:
basically what krazyhades said. As it is currently I wouldn't play it without being might/fearless & maxing chr.

On 11.5.2015 01:06 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Guys...I've got an Ordinary Ring controlling a Sorcerer at clvl 26 within the 1 hour on the ladder...named "Plain Gold Ring". Check it out!

On 11.5.2015 16:24 chris wrote:
You really shouldn't have to max Chr to play ... That wasn't my intent. Rings got accidentally broken when I adjusted the stat saving throw tables for another class and I just never realized the ramifications at the time. I just released a patch release (3.4.5) that fixes the issue.

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