The Angband Ladder: elliptic, Edain Haleth no-class by elliptic

  [Sil 1.2.1-mpa Character Dump]

 Name   elliptic      Age       36       Str   6 =  2  +1      +3
 Sex    Female        Height   5'7       Dex   7 =  3          +4
 Race   Edain         Weight   142       Con   9 =  3  +2      +4
 House  Haleth                           Gra   4 =  1          +3

 Game Turn   29,921   Melee (+32,3d11)   Melee       32 = 20  +7  +5
 Exp Pool       860   Bows  (+13,2d10)   Archery     13 =  0  +7  +6
 Total Exp   93,260   Armor [+26,6-18]   Evasion     26 = 20  +7  -1
 Burden       140.6                      Stealth     11 =  7  +7  -4  +1
 Max Burden   298.4   Health    64:103   Perception  12 =  7  +4  +1
 Depth           0'   Voice      41:41   Will        17 = 12  +4  +1
 Min Depth       0'                      Smithing     4 =  0  +4
 Light Radius     7                      Song        19 = 15  +4

 You are the only child of a craftsman. You are a credit to the family.
 You have blue eyes, straight auburn hair, and a fair complexion.






  [Last Messages]

> You have gorged yourself!
> You can't eat or drink any more until you recover.
> You have 2 Shimmering Potions of Strength (j).
> You exchange places with Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst.
> It attacks you as you slip past.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst misses you.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst bites you.
> You have been poisoned.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst bites you...
> You are no longer gorged.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst bites you.
> You have been badly poisoned.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst bites you!
> You have been badly poisoned.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst misses you. <2x>


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Greatsword of Saithnar (+0,3d5) [+1] 7.0 lb
   It slays undead.  It cuts easily through armour.  It grants
   you the ability to see invisible creatures, but it also draws
   wraiths to your level.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
   It requires both hands to wield it properly.  
b) The Longbow 'Belthronding' (+1,2d7) <+1> 3.0 lb
   It improves your perception by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares (with your current
   strength).
c) a Pearl Ring of Accuracy (+3)
d) a Pearl Ring of Accuracy (+3)
e) The Jewel 'Elessar' <+1>
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It speeds your
   regeneration (which increases your hunger while active).  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants you the ability: 
   Strength in Adversity.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) a Mail Corslet of Resilience (-1) [-2,2d5] <+1>
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It cannot be harmed by
   the elements.  
h) The Cloak of Thingol [+2]
   It provides resistance to cold and fire.  It grants you 
   freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
i) (nothing)
j) a Dwarf Mask of Defiance [-1,1d2] <+1>
   It improves your will by 1.  It provides resistance to fire 
   and fear.  
k) a Set of Gloves of Strength [-1,1d1] <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  
l) a Pair of Greaves of Free Action [+0,1d3]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
m) 49 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 23 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 2 Thorny Herbs of Rage
b) 7 Mottled Herbs of Healing
c) 7 Pale Herbs of Restoration
d) 10 Pieces of Dark Bread
e) 15 Clear Potions of Miruvor
f) 10 Murky Brown Potions of Orcish Liquor
g) 10 Dark Green Potions of Clarity
h) 19 Grey Potions of Healing
i) 19 Green Potions of Quickness
j) 2 Shimmering Potions of Strength
k) 8 Emerald Potions of Dexterity
l) a Cloudy Potion of Constitution
m) 3 Vermilion Potions of Grace
n) an Ivory Staff of Revelations (3 charges)
o) The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
   It provides resistance to poison.  It grants you freedom of
   movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants
   you the ability: Song of Este.  
p) an Amber Amulet of the Blessed Realm <+1>
   It increases your grace by 1.  It sustains your grace.  It 
   lights the dungeon around you.  
q) a Feanorian Lamp of True Sight
   It provides resistance to blindness and hallucination.  It
   grants you the ability to see invisible creatures.  
r) 2 Silmarils
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
s) a Great Helm of Brilliance [-1,1d3]
   It lights the dungeon around you.  
t) a Glaive (Defender) (-2,2d9) [+2] 5.0 lb
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It requires both hands
   to wield it properly.  It counts as a type of polearm.  
u) a Mattock of Belegost (-5,5d2) <+3> 11.5 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 3.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  


  [Abilities]

Polearm Mastery
Zone of Control
Rapid Attack
Dodging
Crowd Fighting
Sprinting
Flanking
Dexterity
Assassination
Opportunist
Exchange Places
Keen Senses
Lore-Keeper
Rauko-Bane
Lore-Master
Inner Light
Hardiness
Poison Resistance
Constitution
Song of Slaying
Song of the Trees
Song of Sharpness


  [Artefacts]

The Serpentine Ring of Barahir (found)
The Amulet of Tinfang Gelion 
The Jewel 'Elessar' (found)
The Mail Corslet of Gundor (found)
The Round Shield of Glorfindel 
The Kite Shield of Hador (found)
The Kite Shield of the Swan (found)
The Dagger of Nargil (found)
The Dagger of Azaghal (found)
The Dagger 'Angrist' (found)
The Shortsword 'Dagmor' (found)
The Longsword 'Orcrist' (found)
The Longsword 'Glamdring' (found)
The Greatsword 'Glend' (found)
The Greatsword of Saithnar (found)
The Spear of Boldog (found)
The Crown of Dark Secrets (found)
The Cloak of Maglor 
The Cloak of Thingol (found)
The Shadow Cloak of Luthien (found)
The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin (found)
The Shortbow of Celegorm (found)
The Longbow 'Belthronding' (found)
The Arrow 'Dailir' 
The Pair of Boots of Finrod 
The Pair of Boots of Irime (found)
The Set of Gloves of Celebrimbor 
The Set of Mithril Gauntlets 'Silverhand' (found)
The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth (found)
The Mighty Hammer 'Grond' (found)


  [Notes]

elliptic of the Edain
Entered Angband on 20 Jan 2014

   Turn     Depth   Note

    552    150 ft   (Polearm Mastery)
  1,176    200 ft   Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
  1,176    200 ft   hm
  1,176    200 ft   (Zone of Control)
  1,182    200 ft   uh
  1,418    200 ft   (Flanking)
  2,353    250 ft   (Dodging)
  3,278    300 ft   uh
  3,395    250 ft   (Sprinting)
  3,431    250 ft   Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
  3,792    300 ft   Fell through a false floor
  5,185    350 ft   (Lore-Keeper)
  7,180    400 ft   Encountered Boldog, the Merciless
  7,180    400 ft   hi
  7,190    400 ft   Slew Boldog, the Merciless
  7,190    400 ft   Found The Spear of Boldog
  7,248    400 ft   Found The Shortbow of Celegorm
  8,099    400 ft   oops
  8,908    500 ft   Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  8,917    500 ft   Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  9,629    500 ft   Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
  9,630    500 ft   Encountered Othrod, the Orc Lord
  9,630    500 ft   what
  9,633    500 ft   hi
  9,771    500 ft   Slew Othrod, the Orc Lord
  9,790    500 ft   Slew Uldor, the Accursed
 10,462    550 ft   (Lore-Master)
 10,509    550 ft   Encountered Nan, the Giant
 10,528    550 ft   good trap
 10,571    550 ft   uh
 10,585    550 ft   Slew Nan, the Giant
 10,585    550 ft   Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
 10,994    550 ft   Encountered Ulfang the Black
 11,036    550 ft   Slew Ulfang the Black
 11,265    600 ft   Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
 11,266    600 ft   hi
 11,796    600 ft   Found The Kite Shield of the Swan
 11,893    600 ft   Encountered Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
 11,931    600 ft   Destroyed Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
 12,090    600 ft   Found The Dagger 'Angrist'
 12,256    600 ft   (Keen Senses)
 12,796    650 ft   Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
 13,132    650 ft   (Hardiness)
 13,535    650 ft   Encountered Delthaur, Balrog of Terror
 14,731    650 ft   (Poison Resistance)
 15,190    650 ft   Encountered Scatha the Worm
 15,190    650 ft   Found The Kite Shield of Hador
 15,190    650 ft   hi
 15,190    650 ft   hador
 15,551    700 ft   Found The Crown of Dark Secrets
 15,573    700 ft   hm
 15,573    700 ft   (Rauko-Bane)
 16,455    750 ft   what
 16,584    750 ft   Fell through a false floor
 16,584    800 ft   well
 16,607    800 ft   hmmm
 16,607    800 ft   (Constitution)
 16,700    800 ft   rip leaping
 16,859    800 ft   Encountered Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 16,859    800 ft   what
 16,885    800 ft   Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
 16,885    800 ft   Found The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin
 17,177    800 ft   oh I have belegost
 17,180    800 ft   Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 17,180    800 ft   hi I'm not an elf
 17,223    800 ft   Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
 17,353    800 ft   Encountered Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 17,354    800 ft   hm
 17,397    800 ft   Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
 17,489    800 ft   Fell through a false floor
 17,489    850 ft   Found The Dagger of Nargil
 17,489    850 ft   well
 17,498    850 ft   Found The Set of Mithril Gauntlets 'Silverhand'
 17,661    850 ft   uh
 18,915    900 ft   Fell through a false floor
 19,087    950 ft   uh
 19,449    950 ft   hm
 19,660    950 ft   Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 19,714    950 ft   Destroyed Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
 19,738    950 ft   (Dexterity)
 20,038    950 ft   Entered the Cat Fortress
 20,039    950 ft   have I really
 20,095    950 ft   hi
 20,110    950 ft   what how did you go around
 20,110    950 ft   cats too smart
 20,166    950 ft   oops
 20,253    950 ft   hi serpents
 20,270    950 ft   good
 20,335    950 ft   finally
 20,336    950 ft   uh
 20,337    950 ft   what is this on my left
 20,338    950 ft   (Inner Light)
 20,342    950 ft   help
 20,346    950 ft   oh okay
 20,408    950 ft   wow okay
 20,568    950 ft   sigh
 20,740    950 ft   Found The Longsword 'Glamdring'
 20,747    950 ft   meh not a polearm
 20,861    950 ft   oops
 20,914    950 ft   Found The Shadow Cloak of Luthien
 20,958    950 ft   fine
 20,998    950 ft   ...
 21,053    950 ft   Encountered Shelob, Spider of Darkness
 21,080    950 ft   Slew Shelob, Spider of Darkness
 21,361    900 ft   uh
 21,377    900 ft   uhhhh
 21,379    900 ft   (Crowd Fighting)
 21,787    900 ft   Encountered The Deathblade 'Delmereth'
 22,013    950 ft   hm
 22,035    950 ft   this is so painful
 22,052    950 ft   hm
 22,388    950 ft   Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 22,389    950 ft   hi
 22,390    950 ft   Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 22,408    950 ft   Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
 22,415    950 ft   Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
 22,561    950 ft   meh
 22,883    950 ft   sigh
 22,892    950 ft   Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 22,892    950 ft   hi
 22,905    950 ft   Destroyed Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
 22,905    950 ft   Found The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
 22,906    950 ft   (Song of Slaying)
 22,906    950 ft   (Song of Sharpness)
 23,204    900 ft   Found The Longbow 'Belthronding'
 23,420    900 ft   Found The Mail Corslet of Gundor
 25,114    950 ft   (Song of the Trees)
 25,129    950 ft   hm
 25,131    950 ft   ugh
 25,335    950 ft   Encountered Ancalagon the Black
 25,335    950 ft   Found The Shortsword 'Dagmor'
 26,434    900 ft   Found The Dagger of Azaghal
 26,753    950 ft   Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
 26,794    950 ft   Found The Jewel 'Elessar'
 27,060    950 ft   Found The Cloak of Thingol
 27,201    950 ft   (Assassination)
 27,201    950 ft   (Opportunist)
 27,481    950 ft   (Rapid Attack)
 28,215    950 ft   Found The Greatsword of Saithnar
 28,419    950 ft   Fell through a crumbling stair
 28,421    950 ft   well I guess this is the last level
 28,421    950 ft   < too far away
 28,702    950 ft   Found The Pair of Boots of Irime
 29,040    950 ft   (Exchange Places)
 29,040  1,000 ft   Entered Morgoth's throne room
 29,043  1,000 ft   Encountered Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 29,058  1,000 ft   ....
 29,059  1,000 ft   Encountered Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver
 29,062  1,000 ft   Slew Ancalagon the Black
 29,062  1,000 ft   Slew Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver
 29,065  1,000 ft   Encountered Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
 29,065  1,000 ft   Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
 29,074  1,000 ft   Destroyed Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
 29,221  1,000 ft   Slew Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
 29,221  1,000 ft   Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
 29,235  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 29,236  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 29,242  1,000 ft   Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
 29,320    850 ft   Fell through a false floor
 29,320    900 ft   ...
 29,866     50 ft   Encountered Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
 29,869     50 ft   hi
 29,875     50 ft   meh
 29,879     Gates   Entered The Gates of Angband
 29,904     Gates   uh
 29,904     Gates   meh
 29,906     Gates   Encountered Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

 29,921     Gates   You escaped the Iron Hells on 21 January 2014.
 29,921     Gates   You brought back all three Silmarils from Morgoth's 
                    crown! 




  ['Score' 141370079]


Posted on 20.1.2014 22:19
Last updated on 22.1.2014 03:45

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On 20.1.2014 22:19 elliptic wrote:
Polearm-only char (well, after finding a spear at 100'). No particularly notable finds, but going well anyway.

Just stumbled across Draugluin in a vault at 800' and not sure exactly what my best course of action is... maybe I could kill him, but it would probably cost a lot of consumables... but also running away to stairs won't be particularly easy in this situation.

On 21.1.2014 22:43 elliptic wrote:
Draugluin was much easier than expected, mainly because of how good ZoC is against erratic movement. Nearly died several times clearing cat fortress on my first time to 950', and then the loot was awful... but I've rebuilt my consumable collection since then.

Still no decent polearms found... branded glaives seem extremely rare. I'm almost out of time before throne room, and I just ran out of _treasures charges. The current level has a 7.5lb vampiric glaive, but I'm not sure it is worth getting.

I'm not currently liking my Morgy-killing chances, but I imagine winning without killing Morgy shouldn't be that annoying if I save a decent number of _revelations charges and some xp for Exchange Places.

On 22.1.2014 03:45 elliptic wrote:
I found Saithnar and decided that it is secretly a polearm.

Morgoth fight took a while since he was being quite annoying with earthquakes and my damage output wasn't that amazing (not enough strength to use Saithnar optimally), but I entered the fight with 26 potions of healing, 25 potions of quickness, etc, so I just kept at it until he eventually fell.

On 22.1.2014 13:04 half wrote:
That is an insane number of potions. How did you achieve that after I'd reduced them so much in 1.2.0? The game is definitely not balanced if you can get that many. Even just you 7 herbs of healing should be enough for the endgame, but to also have 15 potions of miruvor and 19 of healing is crazy.

On 22.1.2014 14:43 taptap wrote:
@half This may explain it:

28,419 950 ft Fell through a crumbling stair

I guess elliptic sees more floors than other players.

On 22.1.2014 18:41 elliptic wrote:
half: I wondered that too, but debo said that you just reduced the stat gain potion frequency, not miruvor/healing/quickness? I did get quite a few stat gain potions too, but I spent quite a while on 950' accumulating them with revelations and/or treasures this game (and without needing to use that many).

taptap: Huh? I fail to see anything unusual about that message.

On 22.1.2014 18:56 half wrote:
That could be right. I don't recall which ones I changed. That is far too much healing though!

I think taptap is suggesting that you visited a lot of floors using a staff of treasures in quick succession so you fell through a crumbling stair (our anti-stair-scumming measure).

On 22.1.2014 19:06 elliptic wrote:
If you didn't reduce miruvor/healing/quickness while reducing the others then it might actually have increased their frequency I guess? I don't know how these changes work in Sil.

Right, though visiting new floors quickly enough to trigger the crumbling stairs isn't actually an effective way of scumming potions (since you want to go and actually pick up the potions). Those were the only crumbling stairs I got in 10k turns after reaching 950', and they were actually caused by pressing < several times in a row with my last _treasures charges in a last vain hope to find an artifact polearm to use instead of Saithnar.

On 22.1.2014 23:06 taptap wrote:
I indeed wanted to suggest that elliptic and other efficient players repeat 900 950ft more often than other less efficient players.

I am always amazed how many chars elliptic brings home safely seemingly without breaking sweat very often. Personally I am losing most of my Edain attempts quite early in 1.2 (charging orc warriors, flanking easterlings ...), it is much harder.



On 22.1.2014 23:32 elliptic wrote:
I was actually pretty surprised myself at how well early game went on this char... plain spears are much better than I thought. There were definitely some pretty close moments with orcs and easterlings though, which could easily have killed me with a bit worse luck.

In general though I feel like Edain aren't that terrible if you are playing a melee/evasion character with no tricky business... their main drawback then is that you have 3 con rather than 5, which means that you have to run away earlier and have to avoid fights altogether with more monsters, but doesn't hurt you in fights where you aren't really taking damage. An Edain at full HP isn't really in worse shape than an injured Noldor at the same HP.

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