The Angband Ladder: Turambar, Edain Hador no-class by taptap

  [Sil 1.1.1 Character Dump]

 Name   Turambar      Age       24       Str  11 =  4  +4      +3
 Sex    Male          Height   6'3       Dex   3 =  2          +1
 Race   Edain         Weight   184       Con   7 =  2  +1      +4
 House  Hador                            Gra   5 =  1          +4

 Game Turn   28,657   Melee (+32,4d12)   Melee       32 = 22  +3  -3 +10
 Exp Pool     2,571         (+32,4d12)   Archery     14 =  0  +3  -1 +12
 Total Exp   95,971   Bows   (+14,1d9)   Evasion     28 = 21  +3  +4
 Burden       122.6   Armor [+28,7-17]   Stealth    -11 =  0  +3  -2 -12
 Max Burden   742.3                      Perception  15 = 10  +5
 Depth           0'   Health     71:71   Will        19 = 14  +5
 Min Depth       0'   Voice      33:49   Smithing     5 =  0  +5
 Light Radius     6   Song     Slaying   Song        15 = 10  +5

 A Turin Turambar turun ambartanen: master of doom, by doom mastered!







  [Last Messages]

> Your dexterity returns to normal.
> The Cat assassin fires an arrow. <2x>
> The Troll guard misses you. <2x>
> The Cat assassin fires an arrow.
> You strike out at everything around you!
> You hit the Troll guard!!!
> You have slain the Troll guard.
> You hit the Troll guard!!!!
> You have slain the Troll guard.
> You hit the Troll guard!!!
> You have slain the Troll guard.
> The Cat assassin fires an arrow.
> Your rage subsides.
> HTML screenshot saved.
> The Cat assassin fires an arrow. <2x>


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) a War Hammer of Nargothrond (-2,4d4) 4.7 lb
   It slays dragons and raukar.  It does extra damage when
   wielded with both hands.  
b) a Shortbow of Radiance (+0,1d8) 1.3 lb
   It fires shining arrows.  It can shoot arrows 13 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) an Onyx Ring of Strength <+2>
   It increases your strength by 2.  It sustains your strength.  
   
d) a Topaz Ring of Free Action
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
e) an Ivory Amulet of Constitution <+1>
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It sustains your 
   constitution.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) The Mail Corslet of Gundor (-1) [-1,2d4] <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It grants you the ability: Crowd Fighting.  
h) a Shadow Cloak of Protection [+4,1d1] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
i) (nothing)
j) a Mithril Helm [+0,1d3]
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
k) a Set of Mithril Gauntlets of Strength [+0,1d1] <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
l) The Pair of Boots of Irime [+1,1d1]
   It sustains your dexterity.  It lights your path behind you.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
m) The Arrow 'Dailir' (+11)
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It can be shot 13
   squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 99 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 13 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) a Thorny Herb of Rage
b) 3 Russet Herbs of Healing
c) 3 Fragments of Lembas
d) 2 Clear Potions of Miruvor
e) 2 Sparkling Blue Potions of Healing
f) 3 Dark Potions of True Sight
g) 3 Violet Potions of Quickness
h) 8 Dark Green Potions of Elemental Resistance
i) 2 Brown Potions of Strength
j) 9 Cloudy Potions of Dexterity
k) a Mahogany Staff of Freedom (6 charges)
l) a Yew Staff of Sanctity (4 charges)
m) a Rosewood Staff of Recharging (3 charges)
n) a Moonstone Ring of Perception <+4>
   It improves your perception by 4.  
o) a Jade Ring of Frost
   It provides resistance to fire.  
p) The Round Shield of Angrod [+0,1d4]
   It provides resistance to fire, confusion, and stunning.  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  
q) The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak (-1) [+0,1d2] <+3>
   It improves your smithing by 3.  It provides resistance to 
   fire.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
r) a Pair of Greaves of Free Action [-1,1d2]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
s) a Bastard Sword of Final Rest (-2,3d4) [+1] 4.2 lb
   It slays undead.  It grants you freedom of movement.  It does
   extra damage when wielded with both hands.  
t) a Mattock (-5,5d2) <+2> 14.7 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 2.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  


  [Notes]

Turin of the Edain
Entered Angband on 8 Nov 2013

    Turn     Depth    Note

       0     50 ft    (Dodging)
       0     50 ft    (Charge)
       0     50 ft    (Flanking)
   2,249    200 ft    Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
   2,283    200 ft    Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
   2,453    200 ft    4 different staffs from chest
   3,170    250 ft    Five staffs are sanctity, understanding, warding, 
                      treasures+recharge 
   3,170    250 ft    Lovely combination.
   3,170    250 ft    This gives me hope I won't drain myself on consumable 
                      testing 
   4,361    400 ft    Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
   4,363    400 ft    I don't mean to be cocky... but -3 evasion for +1 / +1 
                      con / grace... 
   4,363    400 ft    is often not an automatic call for me. My other armour 
                      is -1,1d7 
   4,363    400 ft    A very fine studded leather.
   4,377    400 ft    Dropped by troll
   4,418    400 ft    2 daggers of shadows. For +4 song with 2 weapon 
                      fighting. 
   4,418    400 ft    Daggers of shadow are new to me.
   4,539    400 ft    Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
   4,650    400 ft    Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
   4,670    400 ft    Found The Mail Corslet of Gundor
   4,670    400 ft    Wow.
   4,726    400 ft    Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
   4,727    400 ft    I was wearing the studded leather instead of Fingon.
   4,727    400 ft    But not the armour of Gundor.
   4,727    400 ft    (Momentum)
   4,850    400 ft    Slew Uldor, the Accursed
   4,938    400 ft    I drop my trusty (almost Galvorn) studded leather 
                      armour. 
   4,967    400 ft    (Keen Senses)
   5,345    450 ft    Waah. Jumped in cross-vault with lots of enemies.
   5,429    450 ft    Needed healing and rage.
   5,488    450 ft    First giant, loads of trolls
   5,512    500 ft    Fled downwards.
   5,515    500 ft    Had to leave special lantern on floor :(
   5,647    500 ft    (Sprinting)
   5,671    500 ft    Encountered Ulfang the Black
   5,761    500 ft    Slew Ulfang the Black
   5,887    500 ft    Fleeing up and down... now finally.
   6,286    500 ft    (Inner Light)
   6,317    500 ft    Encountered Othrod, the Orc Lord
   6,376    500 ft    Slew Othrod, the Orc Lord
   6,598    500 ft    Missing out on the brass lantern earlier was bad.
   6,709    500 ft    Found The Pair of Boots of Irime
   6,737    500 ft    (Knock Back)
   7,118    550 ft    Special axe, mattock, lantern and some trumpets on 
                      floor. 
   7,718    550 ft    Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
   7,766    550 ft    Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
   9,656    600 ft    Nearly died when meeting the first cats and a few cave 
                      trolls togethe 
   9,989    650 ft    I hate fire.
  10,154    650 ft    Hehehe... the continuous wall charge.
  10,158    650 ft    Lovely, damage -1.
  10,210    650 ft    Con +1 amulet.
  10,461    650 ft    Feanorian lamp!
  10,732    650 ft    Shit, forgot to wear armour after I stripped for 
                      better self knowl. 
  10,732    650 ft    self knowledge reading.
  11,210    650 ft    I could have 3 sanctity staffs now. 2 have to suffice
  11,210    650 ft    (Hardiness)
  11,847    650 ft    (Poison Resistance)
  12,012    700 ft    Very nice mithril helm, special m gauntlets, special 
                      gauntlets on fl. 
  12,012    700 ft    Recharge and potentially cold res. cloak as well.
  12,092    700 ft    Resisted awkwardness... phew
  12,475    700 ft    Entranced + cat. Quite happy to have some armour and 
                      constitution now 
  12,894    700 ft    New shiny equipment :)
  13,310    750 ft    damage, understanding and recharge + consumables on 
                      floor 
  13,503    750 ft    Encountered Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
  13,715    750 ft    Another damage -1 ring.
  13,950    750 ft    3d7 hadors house greatsword. 3d13 normal, 3d16 on 
                      charge... hmm 
  14,181    750 ft    Shadow cloak of winters chill... disappointing.
  14,612    750 ft    Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  14,613    750 ft    Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
  14,625    750 ft    Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
  14,650    750 ft    Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  14,654    750 ft    Phew. I have 0 healing for no particular reason. 
                      Didn't use much. 
  14,654    750 ft    And have treasures so did not miss so much.
  14,654    750 ft    Managed to quaff quickness and constitution. And 
                      changed to axe. 
  14,654    750 ft    as a white d appeared together with Tevildo and 
                      Oikeroi. 
  14,683    750 ft    I have 6 strength, and there is a 4d2 warhammer of 
                      Nargothrond here. 
  14,684    750 ft    Would be 4d10 -> 4d13 (4.5 lb weight) and Nargothrond. 
  14,779    750 ft    as opposed to my bastard sword of nargothrond
  14,779    750 ft    I can do similar damage with greatsword of hadors 
                      house. 
  14,779    750 ft    I feel however I don't need more damage.
  14,779    750 ft    And yes. The dragon confused me while one of the cats 
                      was st. alive 
  14,834    700 ft    I had to flee. Kemenrauko, trap, greater werewolves, 
                      oathwraith... 
  14,834    700 ft    white d all around me.
  15,043    700 ft    Found The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak
  15,044    700 ft    Gamil Zirak could be useful additional fire resistance 
  15,118    700 ft    Encountered Belegwath, Balrog of Shadow
  15,137    700 ft    Destroyed Belegwath, Balrog of Shadow
  15,140    700 ft    Hahaha... killed a Balrog and realized the danger the 
                      turn after. 
  15,140    700 ft    Afraid from green H
  15,165    700 ft    Deathblade like Shortsword of Hador's House (+1,1d9) 
                      [+1] 1.6 lb 
  15,390    700 ft    Encountered Nan, the Giant
  15,403    700 ft    Slew Nan, the Giant
  15,408    700 ft    Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
  15,463    700 ft    Drop warding. I really don't use it. I won't fight in 
                      corridors. 
  15,735    750 ft    strength ring, shadow cloak, 4 rage herbs on floor
  17,082    750 ft    (Song of Slaying)
  17,367    800 ft    (Dexterity)
  17,556    800 ft    Axes. 2 4d5 great axes, 1 nargothrond 1 final rest and 
                      1 4d6 hh 
  17,663    800 ft    Found The Arrow 'Dailir' (from 600 ft)
  17,937    850 ft    (Dragon-Bane)
  18,875    900 ft    (Constitution)
  19,010    900 ft    Found The Shortbow 'Death's Sting'
  19,012    900 ft    Death's Sting is imo the most useless artefact.
  19,116    900 ft    Hahaha, critical hits with a war hammer on charge :)
  19,196    900 ft    Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  19,217    900 ft    Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  19,272    900 ft    Single Ururauko did more damage than Dagorhir and 
                      whole escort. 
  19,739    900 ft    Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
  19,829    900 ft    Destroyed Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
  19,830    900 ft    Unbuffed but needed healing and 1 miruvor
  19,830    900 ft    Very bad, given that I have only 1 miruvor left
  20,064    900 ft    Galvorn armour of Stealth +3, 6.6lb
  20,574    950 ft    2 herbs of healing
  20,939    950 ft    Drop armour of Fingon
  21,083    950 ft    New Treasures staff
  21,084    950 ft    drop voice
  21,419    950 ft    drop sanctity (twice used)
  21,462    950 ft    (Finesse)
  21,657    900 ft    Hehehe, charge against raukar is irresistable 5d13 :)
  21,670    900 ft    Shadow cloak of protection. I am tempted.
  21,670    900 ft    How important is cold resistance?
  21,672    900 ft    drop restoration (i have enough stat potions in case
  21,937    900 ft    Low will is my biggest vulnerability.
  22,087    900 ft    Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
  22,144    900 ft    Destroyed Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
  22,187    900 ft    Slaying (didn't amount to much with my low song) + el. 
                      resist. only. 
  22,222    900 ft    cold drake
  22,223    900 ft    young one, but still. low will
  22,307    900 ft    Fell through a false floor.
  22,308    950 ft    This was unplanned.
  22,310    950 ft    Tons of healing + special lamp on floor + fine FR 
                      b.sword for axe 
  22,310    950 ft    1 more light means +3 evasion and +1 armour from 
                      shadow cloak 
  22,310    950 ft    drop treasures
  22,311    950 ft    can't use identify anymore -> no sanctity.
  23,094    950 ft    hmm bastard sword has not the perfect weight. 4.2 lb 
                      only. 
  23,151    950 ft    But enough for cold drake :)
  23,160    950 ft    Found The Longsword 'Glamdring'
  23,172    950 ft    No use for Glamdring
  23,177    950 ft    strength ring, but i can't risk it :/
  23,184    950 ft    This really bugs me. (Feanorian lamp of brightness, 
                      doesn't autoID.) 
  23,650    950 ft    As strong as it gets.
  23,650    950 ft    I could buff up to 9 strength and drop my strength 
                      potions now :D 
  23,656    950 ft    drop dexterity + damage
  23,656    950 ft    (Clarity)
  23,771    950 ft    On the floor nice dragon horn longbow and galvorn of 
                      stealth as well. 
  23,802    950 ft    Greedy as I am I picked up the treasures staff again.
  23,802    950 ft    I wait with the throne room until another day.
  23,807  1,000 ft    Entered Morgoth's throne room
  23,819  1,000 ft    Encountered Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
  23,819  1,000 ft    Encountered Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
  23,823  1,000 ft    Encountered Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
  23,832  1,000 ft    Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
  23,834  1,000 ft    Slaying up to 14. +37 4d13, defence is +30, 7-16
  23,837  1,000 ft    Destroyed Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
  23,854  1,000 ft    Slew Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
  23,871  1,000 ft    Morgoth is 3 stars down.
  23,898  1,000 ft    Down to 4 stars still. Slaying down to +7
  23,908  1,000 ft    Down to 3
  23,916  1,000 ft    4 again
  23,921  1,000 ft    Encountered Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
  23,929  1,000 ft    Destroyed Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
  23,931  1,000 ft    Morgoth still or again 4
  23,939  1,000 ft    Only hit between 10-30 now, had multiple criticals 
                      earlier. 
  23,939  1,000 ft    Slaying down to +6, for +30 attack, +30 defence
  23,939  1,000 ft    Maybe I could have gone for rapid attack?
  23,945  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  23,946  1,000 ft    Dodged a few rounds to get to better spot, already up 
                      to +6 
  23,962    950 ft    Apart from grace I have enough potions for an instant 
                      reengagement 
  23,962    950 ft    But I will wait until the gates
  24,027    950 ft    Angrod on the floor, can't leave it behind.
  24,113    950 ft    Another deathblade-like shortsword of hadors house
  24,113    950 ft    but no deathblades in this game
  24,710    850 ft    (Grace)
  24,846    850 ft    Found The Round Shield of Angrod (from 950 ft)
  24,995    850 ft    Found The Dagger of Azaghal
  25,069    850 ft    Found The Shortsword 'Dagmor'
  25,398    850 ft    Fell through a false floor.
  26,139    800 ft    Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
  26,484    700 ft    Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
  28,320     50 ft    Encountered Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin
  28,340     50 ft    Slew Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin
  28,427     50 ft    (Subtlety)
  28,427     50 ft    (Rapid Attack)
  28,516     50 ft    Morgoth down to 5 stars again. But hard without 
                      slaying 
  28,541     Gates    Entered The Gates of Angband
  28,637     Gates    Encountered Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
  28,639     Gates    Slew Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

  28,656     Gates    You escaped the Iron Hells on 21 November 2013.
  28,656     Gates    You brought back a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown!




  ['Score' 041171343]


Posted on 20.11.2013 11:45
Last updated on 21.11.2013 20:19

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On 20.11.2013 11:48 taptap wrote:
I start to understand wildkhaine's builds (charge + flanking is really powerful). I can't stand low perception / will however, so put some points into them already.

On 20.11.2013 11:50 taptap wrote:
But the investment in perception paid out... would not have been able to open the chest with the staffs otherwise.

On 20.11.2013 12:42 debo wrote:
-2 stealth is such a huge pain... I find that bumping stealth by just a bit can mean the difference between getting insta-swarmed on every new level, and having a few moments to breathe.

On 20.11.2013 12:45 taptap wrote:
The difference from changing to Gundor from a -1, 1d7 studded leather was quite big. But he committed suicide before he woke up in Angband... so no hiding for him. :D

I may try Song of Elbereth.

On 20.11.2013 14:34 taptap wrote:
I hope one of the rings or the shield is frost.

On 20.11.2013 14:43 Psi wrote:
Gundor is a rather glorious find.

On 20.11.2013 19:36 taptap wrote:
I try to be careful, but it slows me down. Kemenrauko are no problem. As is most else.

On 20.11.2013 20:34 debo wrote:
This is probably where i would take Constitution from the Will tree and then switch to Fingon, but that's just me. 59HP and 34HP are like night and day when dragons and serpents are wandering around...

I probably would have gone much lighter on evasion and used a shield too, but I think that's just how I play now :/

Good going so far!!

On 20.11.2013 21:00 taptap wrote:
I seriously consider eye for detail (never took it before), constitution from the will tree (and / or critical resistance?). The other point I wonder about is finesse or power - with momentum I use pretty light weapons so finesse may be useful and it would open the way to other abilities.

I can't bring myself to take armour with heavy evasion penalties when I already have flanking, when I found Fingon I kept using my masterwork studded leather armour (-1, 1d7) initially.

On 20.11.2013 21:57 taptap wrote:
I am really scared. Even though Turin is stronger than most Edains I had in this depth.

On 21.11.2013 00:31 taptap wrote:
I would switch for a black blade, but otherwise I will stick to the hammer.

On 21.11.2013 00:32 debo wrote:
<3 warhammers

On 21.11.2013 01:42 taptap wrote:
Lost staff of understanding to serpent fire. Stand on revelation staff. Wonder what to do next.

On 21.11.2013 01:47 taptap wrote:
I only now realize that I can expect critical hits from war hammers as well. It is great fun that I would have missed forever as I would never have started with 4 strength on my own.

Not sure about the rings. Dexterity and damage are lovely but frost and free action unfortunately urgent.

On 21.11.2013 01:58 debo wrote:
Yes that's why I love war hammers!!!

On 21.11.2013 01:58 debo wrote:
The only bad thing is song of sharpness doesn't work with them :(

On 21.11.2013 07:25 Psi wrote:
So... are you going to kill V? ...and how long dare you wait before going for it...

On 21.11.2013 09:06 taptap wrote:
My only plan is to kill Glaurung like Turin did.

I hope to kill V as well, but I don't know whether I manage to do so. I guess I repeat 900 / 950 once to gather a few more consumables. It is my first real shot at winning with House of Hador and I don't want to lose to zeal at this point.

I will peak at about +25, 4d13 or 4d14 buffed and hope slaying and maybe finesse help me to get a few criticals against Morgoth. I never killed Morgoth without sharpness before and even with sharpness I only ever did so with elves.

On 21.11.2013 09:25 Psi wrote:
You've played a fantastic game so far - all the best with closing it out.

On 21.11.2013 11:14 taptap wrote:
As strong as it gets - most enemies fall in passing but I have a lot of respect for Ururaukos and D's (use the sword). (Repeated both 900 and 950 ft. once with treasures for maximized loot.)

I need to sort out my equipment for the throne room. Strength +2 was in silent watcher vault.

On 21.11.2013 11:36 taptap wrote:
Will take clarity and put the rest into song for higher slaying. Shame I can't apply the dexterity and damage rings, but I couldn't bring myself to dump the boots of Irime for free action this time (as I used to do) - I didn't even identify the free action boots.

On 21.11.2013 13:21 taptap wrote:
Couldn't wait :) So here it is.

On 21.11.2013 13:22 debo wrote:
Wow, nice!

Will V actually show up at the gates?? I don't think I've ever had that happen.

On 21.11.2013 13:30 taptap wrote:
There goes my plan. The problem is always the time I need to re-quaff all the potions allowing V to rest and my slaying bonus to fall, but maybe no sharpness and only a single attack was asking a bit too much.

On 21.11.2013 13:31 Psi wrote:
I would have been tempted by two weapon fighting. Glamdring (forehand, if you could also get parry) and Bsword of Final Rest freeing up your =FA for =Dam. Then going song of sharpness. Rapid attack with your strength would also be an option. I'm salivating now.

On 21.11.2013 13:32 Psi wrote:
Guess I waited too long to post that...

On 21.11.2013 13:44 taptap wrote:
Yes. I had enough experience in the throne room to buy sharpness (and I had a nice 7lb 3d7 greatsword of hadors house at one point) and enough for new melee abilities a bit later, but I kind of wanted to keep hammering once I started that way. I am still at 50 ft., but I have dropped most of the equipment which would have made a change of plans possible.

On 21.11.2013 14:09 taptap wrote:
I will try (subtlety :D), rapid attack, strength +2, rage + all potions maybe I can down him with 2x 4d13 attacks instead of one. But I will badly miss the slaying bonus from the throne room.

On 21.11.2013 20:19 taptap wrote:
Last attempt at 50ft. with rapid attack at full strength but no slaying. I only got Morgoth to 4 stars (sorely missed the slaying bonus) before disengaging.

In the gates it went up to over 20 (which would have been more than enough with 2 x +40, 4d13 per turn), but sadly no Morgoth there. In the throne room I brought him down to 3 stars with a single attack per turn.

Still my first Hador winner and first Edain without stealth to make it.

On 21.11.2013 20:23 taptap wrote:
Two screenshots:

http://angband.oook.cz/screen-show.php?id=2404

http://angband.oook.cz/screen-show.php?id=2405

On 21.11.2013 20:50 debo wrote:
Very well done!

On 21.11.2013 21:25 Psi wrote:
Congratulations on the Hador win!

On 21.11.2013 22:21 half wrote:
Great work. Looks like you have mastered the path of Flanking!

On 21.11.2013 23:24 Scatha wrote:
Congratulations. I'm certainly impressed.

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