[Sil 1.1.1 Character Dump]

 Name   Vilia         Age    1,366       Str   1 =  0  +1
 Sex    Female        Height  5'10       Dex   6 =  5  +1
 Race   Noldor        Weight   177       Con   2
 House  Finarfin                         Gra   8 =  5  +1      +2

 Game Turn   32,753   Melee   (+7,2d7)   Melee        7 =  0  +6      +1
 Exp Pool     3,206   Bows    (+8,2d8)   Archery      8 =  0  +6  +1  +1
 Total Exp   70,006   Armor  [+16,2-2]   Evasion     16 =  7  +6  +3
 Burden        87.5                      Stealth     18 =  8  +6  +4
 Max Burden   120.0   Health     28:28   Perception  24 = 10  +8  +5  +1
 Depth           0'   Voice    107:171   Will        17 =  9  +8
 Min Depth       0'                      Smithing     9 =  1  +8
 Light Radius     9                      Song        30 = 22  +8

 You are one of several children of a warrior from the house of
 Finarfin. You have light green eyes, straight silver hair, and a fair
 complexion.





  [Last Messages]

> You feel yourself slow down.
> You feel yourself moving faster!
> You have 6 Brilliant Blue Potions of Quickness (g).
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst becomes unwary.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst notices you.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst becomes unwary.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst notices you.
> You add a minor theme of silence.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst becomes unwary.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst falls asleep.
> You end your song.
> Your dexterity returns to normal.
> You feel yourself slow down.
> Your grace returns to normal.
> Illegal edit key! <6x>


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Longsword 'Narsil' (+0,2d6) [+1] 2.5 lb
   It provides resistance to cold and fire.  It lights the
   dungeon around you.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
b) The Longbow 'Belthronding' (+1,2d7) [-1] <+1> 3.0 lb
   It improves your perception by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares (with your current
   strength).
c) a Garnet Ring of Dexterity <+1>
   It increases your dexterity by 1.  It sustains your dexterity.
   
d) a Golden Ring of Perception <+4>
   It improves your perception by 4.  
e) a Ruby Amulet of the Blessed Realm <+1>
   It increases your grace by 1.  It sustains your grace.  It 
   lights the dungeon around you.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) a Filthy Rag of Stealth [+1] <+1>
   It improves your stealth by 1.  
h) The Cloak of Thingol [+2]
   It provides resistance to cold and fire.  It grants you 
   freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
i) (nothing)
j) a Jewelled Crown of Clarity [+0,1d1]
   It provides resistance to confusion, stunning, and 
   hallucination.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
k) a Set of Gloves of Strength <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  
l) a Pair of Boots of Softest Tread [+0,1d1] <+3>
   It improves your stealth by 3.  
m) 99 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 12 Arrows of Piercing
   They cut easily through armour.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 7 Grey Herbs of Healing
b) 4 Pale Herbs of Restoration
c) 11 Clear Potions of Miruvor
d) 13 Emerald Potions of Healing
e) a Golden Potion of Voice
f) 5 Pale Green Potions of Slow Poison
g) 6 Brilliant Blue Potions of Quickness
h) 4 Sparkling Potions of Strength
i) 6 Milky White Potions of Dexterity
j) 11 Black Potions of Constitution
k) 5 Azure Potions of Grace
l) a Willow Staff of Revelations (0 charges)
m) an Ivory Staff of Treasures (0 charges)
n) a Mahogany Staff of Warding (3 charges)
o) a Jade Ring of Venom's End
   It provides resistance to poison.  
p) a Brass Lantern of True Sight (with 6601 turns of light)
   It provides resistance to blindness and hallucination.  It
   grants you the ability to see invisible creatures.  
q) The Cloak of Maglor [+1] <+2>
   It improves your song by 2.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It grants you the ability: Unwavering Voice.  
r) a Cloak of Stealth [+2] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  
s) a Crown of Command [+0,1d1]
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants you the
   ability: Song of Mastery.  
t) The Dagger of Azaghal (+1,1d6) 1.0 lb
   It slays dragons.  It provides resistance to fire and fear.  
   It can be thrown effectively (8 squares).  It cannot be
   harmed by the elements.  
u) a Longsword of Shadows (+0,2d5) [+1] <+2> 3.3 lb
   It improves your song by 2.  It creates an unnatural darkness.
   
v) a Shovel (-2,2d2) <+1> 5.8 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 1.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  


  [Notes]

Vilia of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 31 Mar 2013

    Turn     Depth    Note

       4     50 ft    (Disguise)
     411     50 ft    (Vanish)
   1,313    150 ft    (Keen Senses)
   2,545    300 ft    (Lore-Keeper)
   2,592    300 ft    Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
   3,630    400 ft    (Lore-Master)
   3,961    450 ft    (Listen)
   4,833    450 ft    (Exchange Places)
   5,508    500 ft    Stealth boots at 450'. That should help.
   6,075    500 ft    Found The Dagger of Azaghal
   6,225    550 ft    (Dodging)
   6,256    550 ft    Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
   6,706    550 ft    Stuck behind Uldor and company...Move!
   7,018    550 ft    Worm finally busted me out...
   7,300    550 ft    (Sprinting)
   8,301    600 ft    Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
   8,464    600 ft    (Grace)
   8,618    650 ft    (Song of Silence)
   9,638    600 ft    Encountered Nan, the Giant
  10,031    650 ft    Found The Cloak of Thingol
  10,382    600 ft    Encountered Othrod, the Orc Lord
  10,730    600 ft    Encountered Ulfang the Black
  10,794    600 ft    Can't seem to break out past 650'...
  11,628    650 ft    Encountered Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
  12,129    650 ft    Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
  12,651    650 ft    Encountered Delthaur, Balrog of Terror
  13,874    750 ft    Encountered Belegwath, Balrog of Shadow
  13,923    750 ft    (Grace)
  14,054    750 ft    (Woven Themes)
  15,221    800 ft    (Song of Lorien)
  16,153    850 ft    (Unwavering Voice)
  17,190    850 ft    Filthy Rag of Stealth!
  18,009    900 ft    Entered Gothmog's hall
  18,163    900 ft    Encountered Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
  18,275    900 ft    Found The Mail Corslet of Gundor
  18,509    900 ft    Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  18,621    900 ft    (Song of Slaying)
  18,621    900 ft    (Song of Sharpness)
  19,514    950 ft    Found The Battle Axe of Hurin
  20,763    900 ft    Found The Longsword 'Narsil'
  20,841    900 ft    Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
  21,599    900 ft    Feanorian short sword is very tempting.
  22,500    950 ft    Looking for Amulet of Grace or similar...
  22,719    950 ft    Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  22,758    950 ft    Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
  22,819    950 ft    Found The Cloak of Maglor
  24,106    950 ft    Well, here we go...
  24,107  1,000 ft    Entered Morgoth's throne room
  24,314  1,000 ft    Encountered Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver
  24,314  1,000 ft    Encountered Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
  24,479  1,000 ft    Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
  24,482  1,000 ft    Encountered Ancalagon the Black
  24,551  1,000 ft    Dagorhir standing on the main stairs...Escape will be 
                      interesting. 
  24,688  1,000 ft    Encountered Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
  24,702  1,000 ft    Found The Longbow 'Belthronding'
  24,721  1,000 ft    Encountered Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
  24,888  1,000 ft    Gorthaur nearly killed me with howls...
  24,888  1,000 ft    Had to blow the rest of my experience just to live.
  25,098  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  25,160    950 ft    Got out the back stairs!
  25,639    950 ft    Found The Glaive of the Sirion
  26,766    800 ft    Amulet of the Blessed Realm, that should help!
  27,212    700 ft    Encountered The Deathblade 'Delmereth'
  27,920    650 ft    Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
  28,463    600 ft    Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
  29,434    500 ft    Slew Ulfang the Black
  30,376    350 ft    Leathers of Stealth +3 here...I like my Filthy Rag.
  30,390    350 ft    Encountered Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
  30,925    250 ft    Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
  30,925    250 ft    Found The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin
  31,050    200 ft    (Inner Light)
  31,050    200 ft    (Majesty)
  31,468    200 ft    Too hard to kill Dagorhir with arrows. Regenerates too 
                      fast. 
  32,222     50 ft    Stairs up located.
  32,315     Gates    Entered The Gates of Angband
  32,628     Gates    Encountered Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
  32,629     Gates    Carcharoth is already sleeping...
  32,711     Gates    Not going to kill Carcharoth, too hard.

  32,752     Gates    You escaped the Iron Hells on 01 April 2013.
  32,752     Gates    You brought back a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown!

  32,753     Gates    And Vilia of the House of Finarfin did free a 
                      Silmaril. 
  32,753     Gates    She took it from The Enemy's Iron Crown, and escaped 
                      with it, along 
  32,753     Gates    with a great many treasures from that dark place.



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Posted on 1.4.2013 21:54

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On 1.4.2013 21:54 decoy wrote:
Well, it's been quite a while since I've gone exploring, and quite a while since I've gotten down into the Throne Room. There were a number of changes to Sil since I last posted a character. Finally made it down there and back in v1.1.1, nothing fancy this time.

Finding Belthronding is always nice, because it gives me a chance to shoot a few things on the way back. In retrospect, I should have taken Flaming Arrows rather than will/Majesty, maybe I could have killed Dagorhir.

The game is still quite fun, and even more challenging for this type of "explorer" character with the recent changes for v1.1.1 and before.

On 2.4.2013 14:47 Scatha wrote:
Thanks for the report, and well done on the character. Do you think the difficulty has swung too far? Not all the changes have made it harder for these builds, for example cats are one of the nastier threats and have lower Will than before, but the change to Vanish will certainly increase the challenge.

On 2.4.2013 20:04 decoy wrote:
Yes, the fact that cats have lower Will is nice, and does make certain parts of the game much more survivable in some ways. I had to make a call in the Throne Room between trying to tiptoe past (with Exchange Places) Dagorhir, snow trolls, and Unmourned at the main stairs, or the cats surrounding the back stairs. I decided I'd try the cats (because the Unmourned, chiefly, might have caused issues, but Dagorhir is also problematic). That paid off nicely, because the cats aren't so deadly once this build gets up and running at full power. Which is good, because they previously were _deadly_ (even a Vilia or two were killed by cat assassins, and probably cat warriors as well).

Yes, the Vanish change definitely makes life more difficult. I had a lot of trouble in the 600'-650' region because either the ways forward were blocked by sleeping foes, or because I kept getting spotted and having to bail. With the change to Vanish, pursuers definitely give chase more persistently, with deadly results. I'm not sure if the change makes it "too hard"--what, after all, does "too hard" even mean in the Sil context? If there was a body counter on the record sheet, I'm sure for Vilia it would be in the dozens, if not over a hundred.

I do find that Stealth bonus equipment is pretty necessary to survive the mid-levels, where I still don't have enough points for all of the abilities and skills the character needs. This is especially true after the Vanish change. I have had Vilias live through to 750' or lower without bonuses to Stealth, but at that point one starts getting enough points to manually increase the skill.

Now that I'm back in form again, I think I will try with an Edain just to see how sensitive it is to stats. Probably pretty sensitive, but we'll see.

One other thing that was evident--Morgoth and certain other high-level beasties (e.g., Gorthaur, Carcharoth) have definitely gotten an upgrade. Even with really high song and a Potion of Grace, they gave me trouble. Morgoth seems to have much higher Will (to the point that he is difficult to put to sleep, even with stats that would once have had no issues), and some of the others have perhaps gotten increased Perception?

Of course, considering that the entire first page (and part of the second) on the ladder is full of people who killed Morgoth, he doesn't seem to be a problem for them...

Anyway, good stuff. Still love the game. In sum total, I think the changes have been for the better, though a little tweaking here and there might be in order.

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