[Sil 1.1.1 Character Dump]

 Name   Liatar        Age    1,068       Str   2
 Sex    Male          Height   6'5       Dex   4
 Race   Noldor        Weight   160       Con   3 =  4      -1
 House  Fingolfin                        Gra   4

 Game Turn    3,631   Melee (+11,1d16)   Melee       11 =  7  +4  -1  +1
 Exp Pool     2,751   Bows   (+5,1d10)   Archery      5 =  0  +4      +1
 Total Exp   12,351   Armor [+10,4-11]   Evasion     10 =  6  +4
 Burden       120.7                      Stealth      1 =  4  +4  +1  -8
 Max Burden   144.0   Health      0:34   Perception   9 =  4  +4  +1
 Depth         350'   Voice      40:41   Will         8 =  3  +4      +1
 Min Depth     200'   Song    Elbereth   Smithing     4 =  0  +4
 Light Radius     1                      Song         5 =  1  +4

 You are one of several children of a bard from the house of Fingolfin.
 You have light grey eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.






  [Last Messages]

> You hit the Mountain troll.
> The Mountain troll hits you.
> You hit the Mountain troll...
> The Mountain troll hits you.
> You hit the Mountain troll.
> The Mountain troll misses you.
> You hit the Mountain troll.
> You have slain the Mountain troll.
> You hit the Orc warrior!
> The Orc warrior misses you.
> You miss the Orc captain.
> The Orc captain misses you.
> You begin a song to the Queen of the Stars.
> The Orc captain hits you!
> You die.


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) a Great Spear (-1,1d14) [+1] 6.6 lb
   It requires both hands to wield it properly.  It counts as a
   type of polearm.  
b) a Shortbow (+0,1d8) 2.2 lb
   It can shoot arrows 15 squares (with your current strength).
c) (nothing)
d) an Adamant Ring of Perception <+1>
   It improves your perception by 1.  
e) (nothing)
f) a Wooden Torch (with 235 turns of light)
g) Studded Leather of Stealth [-2,1d6] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  
h) a Cloak [+1]
i) (nothing)
j) a Helm [+0,1d3]
k) a Set of Gloves [+0,1d1]
l) a Pair of Boots [+0,1d1]
m) 71 Arrows
   They can be shot 15 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) (nothing)


  [Inventory]

a) a Dark Green Herb of Sustenance
b) 2 Pieces of Dark Bread
c) 3 Fragments of Lembas
d) 3 Murky Brown Potions of Orcish Liquor
e) a Sparkling Potion of Quickness
f) a Gnarled Staff of Light (6 charges)
g) a Gnarled Staff of Light (5 charges)
h) a Golden Staff of Treasures (3 charges)
i) a Golden Staff of Treasures (0 charges)
j) an Oak Staff of Slumber (7 charges)
k) an Oak Staff of Slumber (4 charges)
l) 2 Wooden Torches (with 2000 turns of light)
m) a Round Shield [+0,1d3]
n) a Kite Shield (-2) [+0,1d6]
o) a Pair of Greaves of Free Action [-1,1d3]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
p) a Shortsword (+0,1d7) [+1] 1.0 lb
q) a Longsword (+1,2d5) [+1] 2.9 lb
r) a Bastard Sword (-2,3d4) [+1] 4.6 lb
   It does extra damage when wielded with both hands.  
s) a Great Axe (-4,4d5) 8.7 lb
   It requires both hands to wield it properly.  
t) a Shovel (-3,2d3) <+1> 6.0 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 1.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  
u) a Longbow (+1,2d6) [-1] 2.5 lb
   It can shoot arrows 20 squares (with your current strength).


  [Notes]

Liatar of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 7 Feb 2013

    Turn     Depth    Note

       2     50 ft    (Disguise)
       2     50 ft    (Song of Elbereth)
   1,000    150 ft    (Polearm Mastery)
   1,076    200 ft    (Focused attack)
   2,313    250 ft    Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
   3,580    350 ft    Encountered Boldog, the Merciless
   3,585    350 ft    Slew Boldog, the Merciless

   3,631    350 ft    Slain by an Orc captain.
   3,631    350 ft    Died on 07 February 2013.




  ['Score' 007096369]

Posted on 7.2.2013 22:58

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On 7.2.2013 22:58 taptap wrote:
Trying for polearm mastery but killed when claiming Boldogs spear. Too bad.

On 8.2.2013 02:38 debo wrote:
Polearm mastery frustrates me because I've never managed to get it to work in the early game, and then by the time I get to the mid/late game I've generally taken enough melee abilities that it is really expensive for what you get.

The -1 Con was probably the clincher here. Also, Boldog's spear may have been a bit of an improvement for you, but it's certainly not worth dying for :)

Here's a hint -- you don't really need all those abilities and different skills at 350'. Try going straight melee and evasion or invest in 2 melee, 1 eva 1 stealth for the first 400-500' and see how far you get. You really only need one melee ability and that's it (e.g. finesse or power) to get to ~500'. Disguise is another good choice.

I've never had Elbereth really work reliably for me as an escape in the early game. Usually when I find myself needing it, I'm already fucked. It _is_ good as a no-stealth character to help you choose your battles, but I still end up killing everything.

On 8.2.2013 02:38 debo wrote:
Wow look at that wall of text!! Too much espresso :/

On 8.2.2013 03:28 jdh wrote:
Elbereth is best used early, when enemies you know you can't handle start approaching (or notice you, anyway). Having low health tends to counteract the effect (because it improves monster morale). It also doesn't work well on archers because they stay far enough away to mute the effect (song power falls off with distance).

On 8.2.2013 03:32 jdh wrote:
Also, maybe there were enemies out of sight on the right, but run to the stairs! Better to lose whatever is on the level than have the character die.

On 8.2.2013 10:56 taptap wrote:
Running would have been really easy here too... I really should run away more often, even if it hurts. Next time I will not take much abilities and invest only in skills, then decide for melee abilities after I find some weapons. And even here I could have taken a combined 3 points evasion and melee right away.

I believe polearm mastery, focused attack, opportunist and majesty/elbereth/a collection of slaying spears can make a nice combination but probably works best when your melee skill is high enough already to profit from the large spear criticals. But would you take finesse or power with a spear none feels right, but you need one of them later for follow-through, opportunist anyway?

On 8.2.2013 12:53 debo wrote:
Yeah it's a great combo but getting there means your basic skills are going to be :O

And by the time I'm at a point in the game where XP builds up fast enough to get that going, that combo is much more expensive because of previous abilities bought (Lorekeeper + master, melee, potentially Inner Light)

Finesse and power can both work really well -- big die great spears can be forged really light, so you can go for crits with a 1d14 weapon. You can also use spears 1-handed with a shield and go finesse as well -- and I imagine with Momentum now, this could be very strong. Glaives work very well with Power, Charge, and all those good ones.

On 8.2.2013 14:05 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
I've yet to met a successful polearm master out of the starting gate. I've tried a few different techniques too. I can switch to polearm by mid or late game, but by then, 3d and 4d weapons nearly always dish more damage. I'd like to be proven wrong with a really good polearm character, but for me, it seems like a character-concept fun build, but not really optimal. I've had dreams of a character 2handing a half-weight sharp cold spear (1.5) lbs and getting mad crits, but, I can't seem to ever get there. Probably the biggest hurdle for me is the loss of shield for 2h, or the lack of damage 1h. If you could manage to get the spectrum of slaying spears early, problem solved. Before smithing good spears got expensive, it was more viable, but even then I couldn't cope with the stat losses. Okay, there is my wall-o-text on the matter. I still play polearm characters, they are fun.

On 8.2.2013 14:06 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
*yet to make. Damn, that is a really bad typo. C'mon coffee... do your job.

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