The Angband Ladder: Beleg, Sindar Doriath no-class by Thraalbeast

  [Sil 1.1.1 Character Dump]

 Name   Beleg         Age    3,053       Str   6 =  2  +1      +3
 Sex    Male          Height   6'5       Dex   6 =  4          +2
 Race   Sindar        Weight   159       Con   5 =  2  +2      +1
 House  Doriath                          Gra   8 =  3  +2      +3

 Game Turn   40,299   Melee  (+7,1d10)   Melee        7 =  0  +6      +1
 Exp Pool     1,485   Bows   (+26,2d9)   Archery     26 = 17  +6  +2  +1
 Total Exp   88,785   Armor [+26,6-24]   Evasion     26 = 22  +6  -2
 Burden       151.6                      Stealth     11 = 12  +6  -3  -4
 Max Burden   298.4   Health     49:49   Perception  15 =  7  +8
 Depth           0'   Voice    128:171   Will        24 = 12  +8  +4
 Min Depth       0'   Song        Este   Smithing    10 =  2  +8
 Light Radius     7                      Song        19 = 10  +8      +1

 Called 'Cuthalion' for your strength and accuracy with a bow, you are
 the foremost hunter in Doriath's green realm.






  [Last Messages]

> The Orc captain notices you.
> Your shot cripples The Orc captain!
> The Arrow breaks.
> The Orc captain flees in terror!
> You have 35 Arrows (+3) (m).
> The Arrow (+3) hits the Orc captain!!
> The Orc captain dies.
> The Arrow breaks.
> You feel yourself slow down.
> You have 34 Arrows (+3) (m).
> The Arrow (+3) hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!!
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst dies.
> The Arrow breaks.
> Your dexterity returns to normal.
> Illegal edit key! <4x>


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Shortsword 'Dagmor' (+2,1d8) [+1] <+1> 2.0 lb
   It increases your grace by 1.  It provides resistance to fear.
   It lights the dungeon around you.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
b) a Longbow of Doriath (+1,2d6) [-1] 3.0 lb
   It slays wolves and spiders.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
   It provides resistance to poison.  It grants you freedom of
   movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants
   you the ability: Song of Este.  
d) an Emerald Ring of Strength <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It sustains your strength.  
   
e) a Silver Amulet of Constitution <+1>
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It sustains your 
   constitution.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) The Mail Corslet of Fingon [-3,2d4] <+1>
   It increases your constitution and grace by 1.  It provides
   resistance to fear.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
h) a Shadow Cloak [+4] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  
i) The Kite Shield of the Swan (-2) [+0,1d7] <+4>
   It improves your will by 4.  It sustains your dexterity and 
   constitution.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
j) a Dwarf Mask [-2,1d2]
   It provides resistance to fire.  
k) a Set of Gloves of Archery <+3>
   It improves your archery by 3.  
l) The Pair of Greaves of the Helcaraxe [-1,1d3]
   It provides resistance to cold.  It sustains all your stats.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
m) 34 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 98 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 2 Mottled Herbs of Rage
b) a Yellow Herb of Sustenance
c) 5 Dark Green Herbs of Healing
d) 5 Fragments of Lembas
e) 9 Clear Potions of Miruvor
f) 10 Murky Brown Potions of Orcish Liquor
g) 9 Shimmering Potions of Clarity
h) 7 Grey Potions of Healing
i) 2 Milky White Potions of Voice
j) 6 Pale Green Potions of Quickness
k) 2 Smoky Potions of Strength
l) 9 Copper Speckled Potions of Dexterity
m) a Bronze Trumpet of Thunder
n) a Gnarled Staff of Majesty (8 charges)
o) a Mattock of Belegost (-5,5d2) <+3> 14.4 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 3.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  
p) a Longbow of Nargothrond (+0,2d5) [-1] 3.6 lb
   It slays dragons and raukar.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares
   (with your current strength).
q) 16 Arrows of Piercing
   They cut easily through armour.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).
r) 59 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).
s) 99 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
t) 99 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
u) 19 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Notes]

Beleg of the Sindar
Entered Angband on 4 Jan 2013

    Turn     Depth    Note

       1     50 ft    (Disguise)
     512    100 ft    (Weaponsmith)
     523    100 ft    Made 24 Arrows  2.4 lb
     533    100 ft    Made 24 Arrows  2.4 lb
     583    100 ft    Made a Longbow (+0,2d5) [-1]  2.4 lb
   1,699    250 ft    (Flaming Arrows)
   2,079    300 ft    (Exchange Places)
   3,781    350 ft    Smithy but two trolls and @warriors on my tail. 
   3,781    350 ft    Wish I had sprint so I could make pincushions of them
   3,781    350 ft    As it stands now I'll probably have to leave the 
                      level. 
   4,392    350 ft    Encountered Boldog, the Merciless
   4,596    350 ft    Fell through a false floor.
   4,597    400 ft    Trap door too 400'
   4,700    400 ft    (Lore-Keeper)
   5,444    400 ft    Bummer, dart trap drained STR!
   5,445    400 ft    Lol, had one unid'd herb. Restoration. And I needed 
                      the xp 
   5,445    400 ft    just took me over 1000
   5,445    400 ft    (Lore-Master)
   5,814    450 ft    (Dodging)
   5,988    450 ft    (+1,d8) shortbow! nice
   6,009    450 ft    (Precision)
   6,548    400 ft    (Sprinting)
   7,030    400 ft    Mental not: Get sprinting earlier with Archer!
   7,604    450 ft    (Song of Silence)
   8,303    450 ft    Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
   8,350    500 ft    (Keen Senses)
   8,463    450 ft    Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
   9,568    500 ft    (Dexterity)
   9,663    500 ft    Mattock of Belegost! Thank you!
   9,920    500 ft    Effing shadow spider nearlly offed me. Dangerous 
                      bastards 
  10,480    550 ft    Found The Bastard Sword 'Anglachel'
  10,904    550 ft    Out of inventory space. =str+1 replacing =protecion1d2 
  10,904    550 ft    but it feels a wast to throw that one.
  11,170    550 ft    Encountered Ulfang the Black
  11,214    550 ft    (Hardiness)
  11,214    550 ft    (Poison Resistance)
  11,961    600 ft    Encountered Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
  14,177    550 ft    Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
  14,187    550 ft    Feels like 550' is where you start finding useful 
                      stuff 
  14,187    550 ft    In previous version they came earlier. No?
  15,000    550 ft    Ouch, grabbing a !con next to ruby serpent
  15,000    550 ft    "The Ruby serpent notices you..."
  15,006    550 ft    Not like I'm helped by flaming arrows either.
  15,180    550 ft    Serpent dead, 1x !con + 1x !str. Nice
  15,987    600 ft    Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  16,000    600 ft    (Crowd Fighting)
  16,050    600 ft    Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  16,359    600 ft    Found The Battle Axe 'Dramborleg'
  17,045    600 ft    Encountered Othrod, the Orc Lord
  17,217    600 ft    Slew Othrod, the Orc Lord
  17,217    600 ft    Found The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
  17,224    600 ft    =Barahir! Really nice one! Never saw that one before
  17,602    700 ft    (Constitution)
  18,379    700 ft    Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
  18,695    700 ft    "CON+1 is welcome!
  20,502    750 ft    Found The Pair of Greaves of the Helcaraxe
  20,518    750 ft    (Dexterity)
  20,518    750 ft    Swapped stealthy shoes to Helcaraxe. Had to boost 
                      stealth some 
  20,518    750 ft    but seems a good change
  20,524    750 ft    Need ammo now, !'s are coming in but ammo level is 
                      dropping 
  20,697    750 ft    Found The Kite Shield of the Swan
  20,700    750 ft    Two young cold drakes. Sitting on )of the Swan and -
                      Piercing 
  20,700    750 ft    tempting but dangerous.
  20,834    750 ft    Encountered Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
  20,840    750 ft    Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
  20,904    750 ft    Greater werewolves are dangerous! Cost me 2x !Miruvor 
                      and a 
  20,904    750 ft    bunch of arrows. But nice xp
  21,678    750 ft    Three cold drakes down. High will is nice
  21,684    750 ft    Got some additional -poison and -piercing but only 3 
                      standard - left 
  21,727    800 ft    (Song of Slaying)
  21,953    800 ft    Oooooh, +1,2d6 } of Doriath, !con, (Resilience ...
  21,953    800 ft    But Kemenraukos and cold drakes and stuff
  21,953    800 ft    Happy about the stealth boost
  21,961    800 ft    Yay! It was a 3 lb } of Doriath! My str is 3
  21,991    800 ft    YES! Con=5 now. 49 HP.
  21,991    800 ft    (Song of Sharpness)
  22,890    900 ft    }Doriath vs Greater Werewolf = fun!
  22,981    900 ft    (Woven Themes)
  23,028    900 ft    Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
  23,119    900 ft    Vallach had a great cold D as company. Don't need that 
                      fight 
  23,119    900 ft    but pilfered arrows and !con. Welcome supplies
  23,375    900 ft    Wheew, young fire-drake, more danger than I thought.
  23,375    900 ft    Upgraded shield to shield of frost 0,1d4 though
  23,877    900 ft    Found The Shortsword 'Dagmor'
  24,041    900 ft    Found The Bastard Sword 'Anguirel'
  24,049    900 ft    So I find Anglachel's twin, Anguirel! Nice, I did not 
                      keep the other 
  24,086    900 ft    Otoh, I don't really need to lug a sword all the way 
                      down 
  24,086    900 ft    Sad to see it go, but need the space
  24,533    900 ft    Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  24,558    900 ft    Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  24,657    900 ft    So it was an enchanted forge all the Troll Guards 
                      guarded 
  24,657    900 ft    makes sense. All dead now, took some effort but much 
                      xp 
  24,673    900 ft    Made 24 Arrows  2.4 lb
  24,683    900 ft    Made 24 Arrows  2.4 lb
  24,693    900 ft    Made 24 Arrows  2.4 lb
  24,703    900 ft    Made 24 Arrows  2.4 lb
  24,704    900 ft    Boring, but more arrows = more flaming arrows
  24,704    900 ft    and that helps!
  24,892    900 ft    (Unwavering Voice)
  24,901    900 ft    Gwathrauko - 2 hits to kill. But it took too many 
                      shots 
  25,362    950 ft    Getting close to the throne room. Need more xp for 
                      archery and evason 
  25,362    950 ft    But kit is ok I think
  26,725    900 ft    Except _revelations would be nice. Haven't seen a 
                      single 
  26,727    900 ft    _revelations, _foes or _treasure in entire game!
  27,005    900 ft    Ooops, Great cold drake did not like when I slayed his 
                      pals.  
  27,005    900 ft    is coming after me now, scary.
  27,005    900 ft    At least I have will=20 and Helcaraxe's boots.
  27,041    900 ft    Yo! It did not like being a pincushion. Sprint and 
                      sharpness saved 
  27,041    900 ft    this day.
  27,465    900 ft    Found The Mail Corslet of Fingon
  27,588    900 ft    (Vanish)
  27,898    900 ft    Serious ammo cache guarded by sleeping great fire D.
  27,898    900 ft    Leaves me very well stacked for the next part. Thanks! 
  28,787    900 ft    So this is it, min depth is now 1000 ft
  29,573  1,000 ft    Entered Morgoth's throne room
  29,666  1,000 ft    Hmmm, the door is blocked so I had to break the 
                      tension from start 
  29,666  1,000 ft    All Troll Guards down. What's next?
  30,577  1,000 ft    Encountered Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
  30,855  1,000 ft    Wheeew, now I understand the "unrelenting" part about 
                      the Horror. 
  30,855  1,000 ft    Soooo hard to kill
  30,947  1,000 ft    Crap. Morgoth joining the fight. Well have to fight 
                      him sometime 
  30,959  1,000 ft    (Crippling Shot)
  30,961  1,000 ft    Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
  30,994  1,000 ft    Damned, I keep falling into his pits
  31,004  1,000 ft    Whew, he blocked himself with stone
  31,106  1,000 ft    Mental note: Always bring a Mattock or Belegost! Or 
                      I'd be dead 
  31,261  1,000 ft    Cleared the upper right room too. 
  31,281  1,000 ft    Encountered Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
  31,362  1,000 ft    Destroyed Lungorthin, Lord of Balrogs
  31,398  1,000 ft    All chests are crap, but one-on-one I gain XP and risk 
                      little 
  31,433  1,000 ft    Found The Great Axe of Nogrod
  31,437  1,000 ft    Encountered Glaurung, the Deceiver
  31,535  1,000 ft    Ok, so I was wrong. Crippling shot is useful with 3lb 
                      bow too 
  31,665  1,000 ft    Slew Glaurung, the Deceiver
  31,740  1,000 ft    Encountered Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
  31,994  1,000 ft    Need a break. Killing off waves of bad guys. Still got 
                      to get to the 
  31,994  1,000 ft    crown sooner or later
  32,163  1,000 ft    Encountered Ancalagon the Black
  32,314  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  32,338  1,000 ft    Encountered Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver
  32,396    950 ft    Encountered The Deathblade 'Delmereth'
  32,552    950 ft    Encountered Turkano, Balrog of the Hosts
  34,121    750 ft    Made 24 Arrows  2.4 lb
  34,136    750 ft    Trapped again. 
  34,147    750 ft    Saved by the Mattock again. If not Belegost = trapped. 
  34,287    800 ft    Don't look like I can kill Morgoth. Had to go down to 
                      escape 
  35,293    550 ft    Destroyed Duruin, Least of the Balrogs
  35,327    550 ft    Encountered Nan, the Giant
  35,341    550 ft    Slew Nan, the Giant
  35,341    550 ft    Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
  35,350    550 ft    Glend! First time I see it. useless to this character 
                      though 
  37,697    250 ft    Fell through a crumbling stair.
  37,886    300 ft    Encountered Gorgol, the Butcher
  37,891    300 ft    Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
  38,171    300 ft    Bloody sword spider was hiding the upstair!
  40,170     Gates    Entered The Gates of Angband
  40,251     Gates    Ooops, no !con left. Spent them all meeting V on the 
                      way up 
  40,254     Gates    Encountered Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
  40,280     Gates    Slew Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

  40,298     Gates    You escaped the Iron Hells on 16 January 2013.
  40,298     Gates    You brought back a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown!

  40,299     Gates    Amazing! Really hard competition, but many attempts 
                      and some luck 



  ['Score' 041159701]


Posted on 14.1.2013 23:26
Last updated on 16.1.2013 23:17

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On 14.1.2013 23:26 Thraalbeast wrote:
Competition character. Very difficult, this is my best attempt so far. Just found Anglachel. My melee is marginal and I've got a nice Greatsword. Was planning to get Song of Sharpness anyway before 1000 ft and I'm not sure I need the "more dangeous" part. Still not bringing it along feels wrong too. Advice?

On 15.1.2013 00:31 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
Seems like a bad idea to keep it since the only reason you'd want it would be to free silmarils, but you're gonna get sharpness anyway. Sharpness with anything big, like a great axe, will nab a silmaril even easier. Just hold onto a big damage dice weapon near the end for the silmaril cutting.

I love Anglachel, but if you're not going to really ever swing it, the increased danger seems really, well... dangerous, at least with this kind of character. I'd love to hear a counterargument to keep it since it's such a cool weapon.

On 15.1.2013 03:07 taptap wrote:
Is there a way to avoid sharpness? W/ sharpness you need slaying as well, as an archer you want silence/lorien anyway, likely woven themes and unwavering voice as well. Isn't that expensive?

On 15.1.2013 12:02 Scatha wrote:
It is expensive (though somewhat mitigated by the Song Affinity of the elves of Doriath). Interesting that you choose Silence/Lorien, as I would naturally have picked out Elbereth.

I'm certain that it is possible to avoid Sharpness, but it is effectively a way to get extra damage out of your Song, and can be quite valuable for that.

On 15.1.2013 13:14 taptap wrote:
I thought for a stealthy archer silence/lorien is natural. Lorien gives you extra damage (less than sharpness) but at least one critical due to -5 evasion as well (other than mastery). Or so... but I never had an archer in the endgame.

On 15.1.2013 13:17 taptap wrote:
But there probably is a reason why I never make it to the endgame but die horribly ... :) Guess I should post one of my Beleg's as well.

On 15.1.2013 15:09 Psi wrote:
Much as it pains me, I'd ditch Anglachel. It will only be useful for the throne room and the throne room is where it will be most painful to have danger. On top of that, you do really want sharpness as it makes a huge difference againt high protection foes such as serpents - and if you are planning on killing Morgoth...

With my Beleg I took Silence, Lorien, Slaying, Sharpness and Woven Themes from the song tree. Lorien was useful for putting cats and other low will mobs to sleep, however I did not have enough invested in song to use it as a major weapon. I found I actually attracted dragons' attention by singing it as they are high enough will to resist it and the additional noise alerted them to my presence! Silence is brilliant for stealth builds and can make a big difference on the ascent.

On 15.1.2013 20:51 Thraalbeast wrote:
Really nice progress. Need a break.
The 3 lb longbow is very powerful now that I've got str=3. Also found a quickness one but haven't used it. Don't really use the shortbow anymore. Nor sure where it would be useful.
The latest find, =Con+1 makes life less scary.

On 15.1.2013 20:53 Thraalbeast wrote:
"con+1

On 16.1.2013 16:33 Thraalbeast wrote:
Looking for _revelations for the ascent now. Haven't seen a single one of them yet.
Archery and evasion a bit low but the Longbow is quite powerful once you have all the boosts.

Concentration would be good, not sure if I'll try to get it or not. 4500 xp I think.

This is my first archer without Crippling Shot and I am really not missing it. And the ? is much better at stunning foes.

I'm not missing rapid fire either, but I guess it's useful at least when singing Slaying.

On 16.1.2013 19:38 Thraalbeast wrote:
Very interesting throne room action. Had to fight more or less from the start since the left door was jammed. When bashing while singing silence, a Troll Guard noticed me.
I then fought batches of foes, no big problems until I got trapped by Morgoth's earthquakes, a few times with quartz in all directions except where he was. The pits worried me too - I recall my first near-win which ended stuck in a pit at 50' with a Silmaril in my hand and Morgoth standing on top, a horrible death so near the surface - but pits were minor problems this time.
A narrow corridor is evidently not the ideal place to fight him. What saved me was my high con (at least high for the comp char) boosted by !con plus my Mattock of Belegost. That Morgoth finally made a wall of quartz between himself and me was a bonus.

Now some rest and then the ascent. I wish I had some _revelations or at least a ?blasting to minimize the risk of being trapped by Morgoth in the upper levels. Maybe I'll find one. We'll see.

On 16.1.2013 23:17 Thraalbeast wrote:
I made it! The hardest part was having so few HP in the first half of the game. At some points, the limited amount of ammo was a problem since I relied on Flaming Arrows for a long time. I found very few shithies in this game but found much ammo in the dungeon.
The ring of Barahir (rPoison, Free action and Song of Este) is my favourite find. Never used Song of Este before but it is excellent, especially against e.g. Greater Werewolves.

The short bow felt less useful than in the previous version, especially against the hoards of Orcs in the early game (not a problem, I like that). As soon as I got a 2 lb long bow (str was 2 then) I used that until with str 3, I found a 3 lb long bow. Eventually I dropped the light weight shortbow, did not really try it once my Archery score was decent.
The }Doriath was a lucky find, good weight 3 lb.

And I was wrong about Crippling Shot, it is useful! But the ?Thunder is very useful too and seems always to stun any foe.

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