[Sil 1.0.2 Character Dump]

 Name   Smith         Age    4,847       Str   4 =  1          +3
 Sex    Male          Height  6'10       Dex   9 =  5          +4
 Race   Noldor        Weight   168       Con   4
 House  Feanor                           Gra   6 =  4  +1      +1

 Game Turn   33,603   Melee  (+21,1d8)   Melee       21 =  2  +9  +3  +7
 Exp Pool     1,216   Bows  (+29,1d12)   Archery     29 = 14  +9  +5  +1
 Total Exp   68,616   Armor [+18,4-14]   Evasion     18 =  5  +9  +4
 Burden       101.1                      Stealth     26 = 13  +9  +4
 Max Burden   207.3   Health     41:41   Perception  15 =  7  +6  +2
 Depth           0'   Voice      56:59   Will        18 = 12  +6
 Min Depth       0'                      Smithing    19 = 12  +6      +1
 Light Radius     8                      Song        13 =  4  +6  +3

 I once met a man with a wooden leg named Smith. -- What was the name
 of his other leg?






  [Last Messages]

> You feel stronger.
> You have 6 Vermilion Potions of Strength (g).
> You feel more agile.
> You have 6 Pale Green Potions of Dexterity (h).
> Excessive skills!
> You have 82 Arrows (+3) (n).
> The Arrow (+3) hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!!!
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst notices you.
> Your shot cripples Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!
> You have 81 Arrows (+3) (n).
> The Arrow (+3) hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst flees in terror!
> You have 80 Arrows (+3) (n).
> The Arrow (+3) hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!!
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst dies.


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Shortsword of Amrod (+1,1d7) [+1] <+2> 1.5 lb
   It improves your stealth and perception by 2.  It grants you 
   freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
b) a Longbow of Doriath (+0,1d9) [-1] 3.0 lb
   It slays wolves and spiders.  It can shoot arrows 18 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) a Moonstone Ring of Protection [+0,1d3]
d) an Amethyst Ring of Accuracy (+3)
e) a Crystal Amulet of the Blessed Realm <+1>
   It increases your grace by 1.  It sustains your grace.  It 
   lights the dungeon around you.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) The Robe of Idril Celebrindal
   It grants you great speed.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
h) a Cloak of Stealth [+1] <+3>
   It improves your stealth by 3.  
i) a Kite Shield of Frost (-1) [+0,1d7]
   It provides resistance to fire.  
j) The Crown of Escaping <+3>
   It improves your song by 3.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It grants you the ability: Song of Freedom.  
k) a Set of Leather Gloves of Archery <+3>
   It improves your archery by 3.  
l) The Pair of Leather Boots of Finrod [+3,1d1]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by
   the elements.  
m) 46 Arrows of Piercing
   They cut easily through armour.  They can be shot 18 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).
n) 80 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 18 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 7 Mottled Herbs of Sustenance
b) 8 Black Herbs of Healing
c) 2 Pale Green Herbs of Restoration
d) 5 Fragments of Lembas
e) 19 Clear Potions of Miruvor
f) 9 Bright Orange Potions of Healing
g) 6 Vermilion Potions of Strength
h) 6 Pale Green Potions of Dexterity
i) a Dark Blue Potion of Constitution
j) 4 Sparkling Blue Potions of Grace
k) a Walnut Staff of Revelations (0 charges)
l) a Golden Staff of Slumber (6 charges)
m) a Golden Staff of Slumber (2 charges)
n) a Garnet Ring of Strength <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It sustains your strength.  
   
o) a Feanorian Lamp of True Sight
   It provides resistance to blindness and hallucination.  It
   grants you the ability to see invisible creatures.  
p) a Cloak of Warmth [+1]
   It provides resistance to cold.  
q) The Set of Gauntlets of Weaponsmithing (-1) [+0,1d1] <+3>
   It decreases your strength and dexterity by 3.  It improves
   your smithing by 3.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It
   grants you the ability: Weaponsmith.  
r) The Dagger of Nargil (+5,1d5) {sharpness} 0.5 lb
   It cuts easily through armour.  It can be thrown effectively
   (16 squares).  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
s) The Battle Axe of Hurin (-3,3d6) <+1> 4.5 lb
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It improves your will
   by 1.  It slays trolls.  It provides resistance to fear.  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants you the ability: 
   Song of Slaying.  It does extra damage when wielded with both
   hands.  
t) The War Hammer of Ambidextry (-2,4d1) <+3> 5.0 lb
   It decreases your strength and dexterity by 3.  It improves
   your smithing by 3.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It
   grants you the ability: Two Weapon Fighting.  It does extra
   damage when wielded with both hands.  
u) a Longbow of Radiance (+0,1d10) [-1] 3.0 lb
   It fires shining arrows.  It can shoot arrows 19 squares
   (with your current strength).
v) The Arrow 'Dailir' (+11)
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It can be shot 18
   squares (with your current strength and bow).
w) 99 Arrows
   They can be shot 18 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Notes]

Smith of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 20 Aug 2012

    Turn     Depth    Note

       5     50 ft    (Versatility)
     276     50 ft    (Armoursmith)
     276     50 ft    (Enchantment)
   2,600    200 ft    Found The Battle Axe of Hurin
   3,160    250 ft    (Flaming Arrows)
   4,830    350 ft    (Eye for Detail)
   5,822    400 ft    (Disguise)
   6,156    400 ft    (Vanish)
   9,030    500 ft    (Exchange Places)
   9,278    600 ft    (Dexterity)
   9,568    600 ft    (Keen Senses)
  11,795    700 ft    Found The Shortsword of Amrod
  14,005    850 ft    (Inner Light)
  14,005    850 ft    (Hardiness)
  14,005    850 ft    (Critical Resistance)
  14,154    850 ft    Found The Robe of Idril Celebrindal (from 800 ft)
  14,508    850 ft    (Majesty)
  15,166    850 ft    Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  15,231    850 ft    (Precision)
  16,282    900 ft    Found The Pair of Leather Boots of Finrod (from 850 
                      ft) 
  16,911    900 ft    Found The Dagger of Nargil (from 650 ft)
  17,114    900 ft    (Channeling)
  17,123    900 ft    Found The Greatsword 'Calris'
  18,343    950 ft    Entered Chambers of Thu
  18,441    950 ft    (Artifice)
  18,628    950 ft    Made The Set of Gauntlets of Smith
  19,982    900 ft    (Jeweller)
  20,143    900 ft    Made The Set of Gauntlets of Weaponsmithing
  22,858    900 ft    Found The Arrow 'Dailir' (from 950 ft)
  24,621    900 ft    Running out of time... found 4 more forges, but...
  24,621    900 ft    Messed up at one, one blocked by enemies
  24,795    900 ft    Still no Revelations or Freedom
  25,178    900 ft    2-use forge.
  25,697    900 ft    Forged archery gloves, arrows of piercing
  25,804    900 ft    (Crippling Shot)
  25,869    900 ft    Entered Hoard of the Worm of Greed
  26,076    900 ft    Revelations!
  27,045    950 ft    Made The War Hammer of Ambidextry
  27,076    950 ft    Race against the clock...
  27,326    950 ft    (Grace)
  27,616    950 ft    Made The Crown of Escaping
  28,217    950 ft    Entered Ungoliant's lair
  29,272    950 ft    Slew Shelob, Spider of Darkness
  30,370  1,000 ft    Entered Morgoth's throne room
  30,679  1,000 ft    Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
  30,689  1,000 ft    (Finesse)
  30,723  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  31,493    900 ft    Found =Revelations(7)
  31,493    900 ft    Left without entering Gothmog's hall
  32,239    500 ft    Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
  33,536     Gates    Entered The Gates of Angband
  33,594     Gates    Slew Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

  33,602     Gates    You escaped the Iron Hells on 03 September 2012.
  33,602     Gates    You brought back a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown!

  33,603     Gates    Pumped archery at the end to take out Carcharoth



  ['Score' 041166397]

Posted on 30.8.2012 17:23
Last updated on 3.9.2012 17:15

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On 30.8.2012 17:23 jdh@people.homeip.net wrote:
I created this character after seeing debo's first stealth archer video and grasping the key insight behind Smithing: experience invested in smithing equipment can be MUCH cheaper than experience invested directly in skills and abilities.

Unfortunately, I've only found one forge (made Boots of Speed, Helm of Brilliance, and maybe the Leather Armor of Stealth; I can't even remember, it was so long ago) so far (I'm at 850' feet), and I've had to invest in other skills (particularly Stealth and Will) to survive.

Perhaps of interest: I believe this is the first game where I haven't put any points into Song by this depth.

There was a comment about Majesty being useless somewhere else on the ladder. I can say that at this level of Will (16) it tends to make cats run away as soon as they notice me, or I attack them.

On 30.8.2012 17:50 Scatha wrote:
Nice going. I'd think Idril's robe would be ideal for this kind of build -- are you wearing the armour for the Stealth, or the protection?

Unlike most abilities, Majesty doesn't scope so well through the game, and is relatively ineffective if you get it very early. Perhaps that's what the other comment was about?

On 30.8.2012 19:34 jdh@people.homeip.net wrote:
Could be. I found the robe relatively recently (second time finding it -- the first was at 50', I think!) but have been hanging onto the armor for the stealth value, since I have generally been avoiding encounters. If I was trying to kill something I'd probably swap to the robe but at this point it doesn't look like I'll be strong enough to try that. (Probably a good thing, since my high score list is littered with deaths where I got bored and started picking on dragons.)

If only I knew whether that Staff was Majesty or Slumber... but I still have quite a bit of time left.

This is really my first time putting a major investment in Will where I've gotten anywhere, too; usually I get what I want from (found) equipment.

On 30.8.2012 20:41 Philip wrote:
The robe is actually probably better at helping you avoid monsters by letting you dance around faster and avoid monsters running after you in corridors. Being faster or as fast as most monsters in incredibly useful. Also it is certainly possible that switching to the robe would make your armor lighter and thus give you a stealth point.

On 30.8.2012 20:52 T-Mick wrote:
Vanish+Permanent Speed is amazing for stealth chars. I'd swap that nasty 'ol leather for the robe any day.

On 31.8.2012 03:47 debo wrote:
How do Majesty and Stealth interact? Do unwary/sleeping monsters "wake up" and then run away? Do they cry out for help when that happens?

Glad the videos helped you a bit. I'm probably the one you saw calling Majesty useless -- it was in the context of rushing to it as a survival tactic in the early/mid game. That doesn't seem to work. It does work well in the late-game, though, especially with a solid investment in Will.

I've killed 100+ characters and never seen that Robe of Idril. Amazing find.

I suspect those boots you're wearing now are an artefact -- I dunno if you even can find +3 evasion on non-artefact boots.

On 31.8.2012 11:23 Psi wrote:
They will be Finrod.

On 31.8.2012 17:34 jdh@people.homeip.net wrote:
(I'm hoping that the ladder is smart enough to update my existing entry with this one.)

Found a few more forges. Messed up at the first one -- I meant to make guantlets of smithing +3 with weaponmaking. That's why I have two gauntlets now. :( The smithing interface seems to forget about abilities if you look at other menus like the skill bonuses.

Two more were two-use only, and one was in a room with stairs. I finally found one in a room with a Nameless thing and made a smithing hammer by stubbornness. Then I found an enchanted 3-use forge and made a Crown of Escaping, though I also plan to use it to loot 1000'. If I don't find another forge on this level, that's probably it for smithing this run. Hopefully will is high enough for my Staves of Slumber to work. :)

On 31.8.2012 17:41 jdh@people.homeip.net wrote:
To answer the question about Majesty: it doesn't seem to wake anything up or attract notice. It just exerts a downward pull on aggression once you are noticed. I do wonder why it isn't (apparently) implemented as opposed Will rolls similar to Song of Elbereth instead of being a static modifier (if I am interpreting the description rightly).

And to everyone who said Speed is better: I concede. It's gotten me out of quite a few situations (though usually ones where I made dumb mistakes by running into things I didn't mean to).

On 31.8.2012 20:06 Scatha wrote:
Roughly speaking Majesty uses a static modifier because it's a static ability (Elbereth you can only keep singing for a little while). I think opposed rolls would make it a lot messier, though it might be possible to get something balanced to work.

That said, it's not clear why static bonus couldn't be dependent on both Will scores rather than just yours. There might be an improvement to be had there.

On 1.9.2012 14:34 Psi wrote:
I was never brave enough to contemplate negative strength on smithing gear. I imagine yours means you are slow and possibly uneven to move?

On 1.9.2012 14:35 Psi wrote:
unable not uneven d'oh!

On 1.9.2012 15:42 jdh@people.homeip.net wrote:
Yes, it makes me slow, and I was unable to move at one point. Fortunately I have enough light and perception that I wake up in time to swap back, if I'm not dumb enough to try to continue despite the interruption. (Ururauko almost killed me when I ignored it. :))

On 3.9.2012 14:16 jdh@people.homeip.net wrote:
Standing on a 3-use forge next to a tile with stairs. :)

I am more than open to suggestions for what to make. Feanorian Lamp of Brightness for more light radius, and arrows? Helm of Lore-Mastery? Something with Song of Sharpness? A stat-boosting weapon, if I can manage enough Smithing? Or would it be better not to risk anything right next to stairs?

On 3.9.2012 17:15 jdh@people.homeip.net wrote:
I ended up going with a Ring of Accuracy, a Ring of Protection and some more Arrows of Piercing. Amazingly nothing came up the stairs while I was making any of them. It took quite a few turns to get a Silmaril out, even with Sharpness. I was thinking about looking around to get another 100 exp so I could buy Focused Attack (I did buy Finesse, as you can see), but after 30-40 tries I got it.

On 3.9.2012 19:06 debo wrote:
Well done!!

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