[Sil 1.0.2 Character Dump]

 Name   clouded       Age       36       Str   1
 Sex    Male          Height   6'2       Dex   6 =  3  +2      +1
 Race   Edain         Weight   183       Con   3
 House  Beor                             Gra   3 =  1  +2

 Game Turn   36,348   Melee  (+25,1d6)   Melee       25 = 20  +6  +2  -3
 Exp Pool     8,968          (+25,1d6)   Archery      7 =  0  +6  +1
 Total Exp   77,768   Bows    (+7,1d8)   Evasion     22 = 12  +6  +3  +1
 Burden        92.1   Armor  [+22,3-9]   Stealth     26 = 11  +6  +9
 Max Burden   120.0                      Perception  14 =  8  +3  +3
 Depth           0'   Health     34:34   Will         5 =  2  +3
 Min Depth       0'   Voice      69:69   Smithing     3 =  0  +3
 Light Radius     7                      Song        13 = 10  +3

 You are one of several children of a farmer. You were a well liked
 child. You have dark brown eyes, wavy brown hair, and an average
 complexion.





  [Last Messages]

> A Vampire comes up the stair!
> The Vampire becomes unwary.
> You have found a trap.
> You have disarmed the alarm trap.
> You feel yourself slow down.
> You have found a trap.
> You have disarmed the alarm trap.
> You have found a trap.
> You feel yourself moving faster!
> You have 11 Dark Potions of Quickness (i).
> Your grace returns to normal.
> You were wearing a Jade Ring of Perception <+3> (q).
> You are wearing a Sapphire Ring of Dexterity <+1> (d).
> You were wearing a Silver Ring of Free Action (t).
> You are wearing a Sapphire Ring of Dexterity <+1> (c).


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Shortsword 'Dagmor' (+2,1d8) [+1] <+1> 2.0 lb
   It increases your grace by 1.  It provides resistance to fear.
   It lights the dungeon around you.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
b) a Shortbow of Doriath (+1,1d7) 1.6 lb
   It slays wolves and spiders.  It can shoot arrows 12 squares
   (with your current strength).
c) a Sapphire Ring of Dexterity <+1>
   It increases your dexterity by 1.  It sustains your dexterity.
   
d) a Sapphire Ring of Dexterity <+1>
   It increases your dexterity by 1.  It sustains your dexterity.
   
e) a Dragon Tooth Amulet of Grace <+1>
   It increases your grace by 1.  It sustains your grace.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) Leather Armour of Stealth [-1,1d4] <+2>
   It improves your stealth by 2.  
h) a Shadow Cloak of Stealth [+4] <+5>
   It improves your stealth by 5.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  
i) (nothing)
j) a Great Helm of True Sight [-1,1d4] <+3>
   It improves your perception by 3.  It provides resistance to 
   blindness and hallucination.  It grants you the ability to
   see invisible creatures.  
k) (nothing)
l) a Pair of Leather Boots of Softest Tread [+0,1d1] <+3>
   It improves your stealth by 3.  
m) 25 Arrows of Piercing
   They cut easily through armour.  They can be shot 12 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).
n) (nothing)


  [Inventory]

a) 10 Thorny Herbs of Healing
b) 3 Yellow Herbs of Restoration
c) 6 Fragments of Lembas
d) 11 Clear Potions of Miruvor {miruvor}
e) 12 Murky Brown Potions of Orcish Liquor
f) 2 Brilliant Blue Potions of Clarity
g) 16 Dark Green Potions of Healing
h) an Emerald Potion of True Sight
i) a Bright Orange Potion of Slow Poison
j) 11 Dark Potions of Quickness
k) a Pale Green Potion of Strength
l) 13 Black Potions of Dexterity
m) 6 Copper Speckled Potions of Constitution
n) an Ivory Staff of Freedom (3 charges)
o) an Ashen Staff of Revelations (6 charges)
p) a Twisted Staff of Treasures (0 charges)
q) a Jade Ring of Perception <+3>
   It improves your perception by 3.  
r) a Bloodstone Ring of Frost
   It provides resistance to fire.  
s) an Adamant Ring of Warmth
   It provides resistance to cold.  
t) a Silver Ring of Free Action
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
u) a Brass Lantern of True Sight (with 2392 turns of light)
   It provides resistance to blindness and hallucination.  It
   grants you the ability to see invisible creatures.  
v) a Mattock of Belegost (-4,5d2) <+3> 17.3 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 3.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  


  [Notes]

clouded of the Edain
Entered Angband on 3 Aug 2012

    Turn     Depth    Note

       0     50 ft    (Charge)
       0     50 ft    (Dodging)
   1,550    200 ft    (Keen Senses)
   1,601    200 ft    Found The Shortsword 'Dagmor'
   2,942    200 ft    (Finesse)
   5,425    400 ft    (Sprinting)
   5,494    350 ft    (Assassination)
   5,828    350 ft    (Cruel Blow)
   6,556    350 ft    Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
   8,860    400 ft    (Subtlety)
   9,707    450 ft    (Focused attack)
  10,618    550 ft    (Disguise)
  11,276    500 ft    (Vanish)
  13,460    550 ft    (Rapid Attack)
  17,083    750 ft    (Listen)
  19,481    900 ft    Found The Mithril Longsword 'Ringil'
  19,621    900 ft    (Dexterity)
  20,446    900 ft    shadow cloaks of stealth don't auto ID?
  20,546    900 ft    Slew Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin
  20,591    900 ft    that guy dropped a chest! First time I've seen that 
                      happen 
  20,594    900 ft    Found The Galvorn Armour of Maeglin
  21,454    900 ft    Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  22,121    950 ft    staff of treasures, nice thing to find
  22,598    950 ft    gwathraukar are being a pain
  23,096    950 ft    Destroyed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
  23,148    950 ft    (Song of Silence)
  23,292    950 ft    Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
  23,317    950 ft    I love stabbing sleeping unique bands
  26,273    950 ft    Entered Hoard of the Worm of Greed
  26,429    950 ft    crept around Glaurung and stole his loot
  26,443    950 ft    (Song of Slaying)
  26,443    950 ft    (Song of Sharpness)
  26,714    950 ft    Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  26,717    950 ft    Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
  26,831    950 ft    (Woven Themes)
  29,197  1,000 ft    Entered Morgoth's throne room
  29,215  1,000 ft    (Unwavering Voice)
  30,765  1,000 ft    Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
  30,820  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  30,953  1,000 ft    hm, apparently I lost a staff of revelations somewhere 
  30,953  1,000 ft    perhaps it burned?
  31,372    950 ft    great, fell through a shaft
  31,394    950 ft    an then hit a web that my =free action didn't help for 
  32,036    850 ft    Entered Cat Fortress
  32,606    850 ft    can stairs be generated in vaults or something
  32,795    850 ft    apparently so...
  33,383    750 ft    Entered the forge 'Orodruth'
  35,017    500 ft    Slew Uldor, the Accursed
  35,030    500 ft    need to take the time to kill him, of course
  35,681    300 ft    (Channeling)
  36,289     Gates    Entered The Gates of Angband

  36,347     Gates    You escaped the Iron Hells on 04 August 2012.
  36,347     Gates    You brought back a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown!




  ['Score' 041163652]

Posted on 4.8.2012 03:49

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On 4.8.2012 03:49 clouded wrote:
Starting to work on winning all houses. I was sort of lame doing it this way... I started out with a standard melee build planned, but after finding Dagmor on 200' I then pretended I was of the Haleth (which is the easiest way to win an Edain). I will try to do a proper melee char with the melee affinity house, though I think winning an Edain without stealth would be too difficult for me.

By the way, I am concerned about the rapid attack stabbing nerf incoming... I know it's kind of silly it works like it does but I feel without it these characters wouldn't be viable. Being unable to stab things in one hit means you need to go stab-vanish-stab-vanish which isn't much fun at all. This character even with rapid attack often failed to one-hit a lot of things, and was plain unable to kill a lot of things too (which is fine).

On 4.8.2012 03:52 clouded wrote:
Small note: my gloves of strength were destroyed on the way up, so I had 1d7s all game rather than 1d6s.

On 4.8.2012 15:38 debo wrote:
You found Ringil!! I'm curious why you ditched it -- it's the same weight as Dagmor, and you would have had +2 damage dice on every roll.

On 4.8.2012 16:10 debo wrote:
Also, that stealth cloak is insanity.

On 4.8.2012 17:34 clouded wrote:
debo: Damn, interesting point on Ringil. I come from a game where short blades are the only worthwhile stabbing weapons, so the thought of stabbing stuff with a long sword didn't really occur to me!

That particular shadow cloak was found in the throne room, sitting next to Glaurung. The second time I nabbed something nice from under his nose this character. Before that I had a +3 and then a +4. I always like to use shadow cloaks as long as I can still get 2 light radius, with keen senses and listen I feel okay with low light, though it makes killing Gwathrauko a bit of pain.

On 4.8.2012 20:30 HallucinationMushroom@Yahoo.egg wrote:
Any human win is awesome! I wish you would win with a Hador warrior so I can stop trying and failing... miserably.

On 4.8.2012 20:43 Scatha wrote:
clouded: First, congratulations on another(!) win with the Edain.

Thanks for sharing your concerns about the change to rapid attack assassination interactions. My suspicion is that it won't make this build non-viable, but we'll definitely keep an eye on it. If we want to make it stronger there are lots of other tools available to us. One of the major forces behind the change is that at present it's obvious that just about every assassin should take rapid attack. After the change I think it's not obvious, and that that's a good thing (both because it presents more genuine decisions to the player and because flavourwise it seems odd that all assassins will stab really quickly ... Subtlety got added to the game because we liked the flavour of some characters just using a one handed weapon with no shield).

By the way, I'm not sure that you were deriving a huge amount of power from Rapid Attack with this character (though I'd think it was still good for you). You were getting two attacks with d7s instead of one with d10s (and about half an extra die on average). When up against armour those could be pretty similar to each other in net damage (though I guess two attacks also gives more consistency).

On 4.8.2012 21:05 clouded wrote:
Scatha: Perhaps I do overestimate rapid attack a little, I will have to try playing without it and see how it goes, I have yet to do a smithing based assassin.

HallucinationMushroom: I think that evasion affinity is much better than melee affinity for a warrior unfortunately. Usually I take very few melee abilities, as depending on build I generally only want 3 or so, but I think almost all evasion skills are great (I don't like blocking or heavy armour use much), and they are maybe even better at increasing damage output - sprinting lets you charge a ton more, and flanking/retreat gives you so many more attacks.

On 5.8.2012 11:28 half wrote:
Interesting point about evasion abilities being better than melee ones for a melee character. We tried to make them a similar level, but if they are indeed better, that is a bit odd and something we should keep an eye on.

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