[Sil 1.0.2 Character Dump]

 Name   Beldor        Age    1,004       Str   5 =  2  +3
 Sex    Female        Height    6'       Dex  12 =  5  +6      +1
 Race   Noldor        Weight   169       Con   4
 House  Feanor                           Gra   3

 Game Turn   32,214   Melee (+23,2d11)   Melee       23 =  0 +12     +11
 Exp Pool     2,168   Bows  (+37,1d16)   Archery     37 = 21 +12  +6  -2
 Total Exp   98,268         (+37,1d16)   Evasion     22 =  8 +12  +2
 Burden       141.0   Armor [+22,4-11]   Stealth     20 =  9 +12  -1
 Max Burden   248.7                      Perception  20 = 14  +3  +3
 Depth           0'   Health     41:41   Will         8 =  5  +3
 Min Depth       0'   Voice      34:34   Smithing     4 =  0  +3      +1
 Light Radius     9                      Song        12 =  9  +3

 You are one of several children of an archer from the house of Feanor.
 You have light grey eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.






  [Last Messages]

> You have found a trap.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst looks around.
> You have 65 Arrows of Piercing (n).
> The Arrow of Piercing hits Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!!!!!
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst notices you.
> Your shot cripples Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!
> The Arrow of Piercing breaks.
> You have 64 Arrows of Piercing (n).
> The Arrow of Piercing pierces Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!
> The Arrow of Piercing breaks.
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst flees in terror!
> You have 63 Arrows of Piercing (n).
> The Arrow of Piercing pierces Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst!!
> Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst dies.
> The Arrow of Piercing breaks.


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Longsword 'Narsil' (+0,2d6) [+2] 2.5 lb
   It provides resistance to cold and fire.  It lights the
   dungeon around you.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
b) The Longbow of Happiness (+0,1d11) [-1] 2.0 lb
   It slays trolls, dragons, and raukar.  It cannot be harmed by
   the elements.  It can shoot arrows 20 squares (with your
   current strength).
c) a Marble Ring of Damage <+2>
   It improves your damage sides by 2.  
d) a Jade Ring of Dexterity <+2>
   It increases your dexterity by 2.  It sustains your dexterity.
   
e) The Amulet 'True Shot' <+3>
   It improves your archery by 3.  It provides resistance to 
   stunning.  It lights the dungeon around you.  It cannot be
   harmed by the elements.  It grants you the ability: Song of
   Sharpness.  
f) a Silmaril
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
g) The Leather Armour of the Archer [+0,1d4] <+3>
   It increases your dexterity by 3.  It improves your archery
   by 3.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
h) The Cloak of Thingol [+2]
   It provides resistance to cold and fire.  It grants you 
   freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
i) The Round Shield of Strength [+0,1d3] <+2>
   It increases your strength by 2.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
j) a Helm of True Sight [-1,1d3] <+3>
   It improves your perception by 3.  It provides resistance to 
   blindness and hallucination.  It grants you the ability to
   see invisible creatures.  
k) The Set of Leather Gloves of More Pain <+1>
   It increases your strength and dexterity by 1.  It improves
   your damage sides by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.
   
l) The Pair of Leather Boots of Haste [+0,1d1] <+1>
   It improves your stealth by 1.  It grants you great speed.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
m) 16 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 63 Arrows of Piercing
   They cut easily through armour.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 2 Pale Green Herbs of Sustenance
b) 2 Wrinkled Herbs of Healing
c) 5 Clear Potions of Miruvor
d) 12 Murky Brown Potions of Orcish Liquor
e) 10 Vermilion Potions of Clarity
f) 15 Yellow Potions of Healing
g) 9 Shimmering Potions of Elemental Resistance
h) 7 Dark Blue Potions of Strength
i) 5 Violet Potions of Dexterity
j) 2 Crimson Potions of Constitution
k) 3 Dark Green Potions of Grace
l) an Elm Staff of Revelations (0 charges)
m) a Rosewood Staff of Warding (2 charges)
n) a Rosewood Staff of Warding (2 charges)
o) 2 Silmarils
   It sustains your grace.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
p) The Helm of Understanding [-1,1d2] <+1>
   It increases your grace by 1.  It decreases your constitution
   by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It grants you
   the ability: Lore-Master.  
q) The Greatsword of Saithnar (+1,3d5) [+1] 7.0 lb
   It slays undead.  It cuts easily through armour.  It grants
   you freedom of movement and the ability to see invisible
   creatures.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It requires
   both hands to wield it properly.  
r) a Mattock (-4,5d2) <+2> 9.7 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 2.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  
s) 98 Arrows (Poisoned)
   They are branded with venom.  They can be shot 20 squares
   (with your current strength and bow).
t) 99 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
u) 99 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
v) 99 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
w) 31 Arrows
   They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Notes]

Beldor of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 9 Apr 2012

    Turn     Depth    Note

       0     50 ft    (Versatility)
   1,018    100 ft    (Weaponsmith)
   1,018    100 ft    (Enchantment)
   1,023    100 ft    (Armoursmith)
   2,207    200 ft    Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
   4,852    300 ft    (Precision)
   5,808    300 ft    (Keen Senses)
   8,270    450 ft    (Dexterity)
   8,926    500 ft    (Disguise)
   9,065    500 ft    (Dodging)
   9,867    500 ft    Slew Othrond, the Orc Lord
  10,101    500 ft    (Sprinting)
  10,131    500 ft    Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  10,441    550 ft    FalseFloor
  10,493    550 ft    Found The Halberd 'Celebrist'
  10,899    550 ft    (Vanish)
  11,546    500 ft    Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
  11,975    550 ft    (Crippling Shot)
  12,398    600 ft    Slew Nan, the Giant
  12,544    600 ft    Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
  12,946    600 ft    (Artifice)
  13,101    600 ft    Made The Helm of Understanding
  13,104    600 ft    Found The Serpentine Ring of Barahir
  13,104    600 ft    Found The Cloak of Thingol (from 350 ft)
  13,759    650 ft    (Focused attack)
  13,991    650 ft    Found The Longsword 'Narsil'
  15,104    700 ft    Made The War Hammer of Hidden Treats
  15,785    800 ft    (Listen)
  16,165    800 ft    Found The Greatsword 'Calris'
  16,187    800 ft    (Inner Light)
  17,470    850 ft    Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  17,930    850 ft    Made The Round Shield of Strength
  18,457    850 ft    (Rapid Fire)
  19,530    850 ft    Found The Set of Leather Gloves of Celebrimbor
  20,439    900 ft    Entered Chambers of Thu
  20,684    900 ft    Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
  20,848    900 ft    Slew Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
  20,859    900 ft    Found The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin
  20,859    900 ft    Found The Set of Gauntlets of Gamil Zirak
  20,913    900 ft    Found The Mail Corslet of Durin
  21,010    900 ft    Slew Shelob, Spider of Darkness
  21,335    900 ft    Made The War Hammer 'Twin strike'
  21,702    900 ft    Made The Pair of Leather Boots of Haste
  22,116    900 ft    Destroyed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
  22,924    900 ft    Made The Longbow of Happiness
  22,930    900 ft    (Jeweller)
  24,514    850 ft    Found The Greatsword of Saithnar
  24,707    900 ft    Subdued The Deathblade 'Delmereth'
  24,707    900 ft    Found The Deathblade 'Delmereth'
  24,996    950 ft    FalseFloor... damn
  25,611    950 ft    Made The Set of Leather Gloves of More Pain
  26,083    950 ft    FalseFloor again near a forge...
  26,103    950 ft    Left without entering Hoard of the Worm of Greed
  26,176    900 ft    Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  26,176    900 ft    Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
  26,263    900 ft    Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
  26,806    900 ft    Made The Amulet 'True Shot'
  27,219    900 ft    (Masterpiece)
  27,782    900 ft    Made The Leather Armour of the Archer
  27,791    900 ft    (Flaming Arrows)
  28,948  1,000 ft    Entered Morgoth's throne room
  29,115  1,000 ft    Slew Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
  29,126  1,000 ft    Found The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil
  29,169  1,000 ft    Found The Shadow Cloak of Luthien
  29,213  1,000 ft    Slew Glaurung, the Deceiver
  29,467  1,000 ft    (Concentration)
  29,478  1,000 ft    Destroyed Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
  29,728  1,000 ft    Throne room cleared...
  29,743  1,000 ft    Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
  29,749  1,000 ft    Slew Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
  29,749  1,000 ft    Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
  29,829  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  29,841  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  29,842  1,000 ft    Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
  29,845  1,000 ft    (Eye for Detail)
  29,860  1,000 ft    So can I get out this time?
  29,953    950 ft    Left without entering Ungoliant's lair
  30,062    850 ft    Left without entering Cat Fortress
  30,916    400 ft    Slew Uldor, the Accursed
  31,106    400 ft    Most HP I've lost all game... shadow mold...
  31,106    400 ft    Had to hack it to death with Narsil.
  31,158    350 ft    Slew Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin
  31,163    350 ft    Found The Galvorn Armour of Maeglin
  31,191    350 ft    Nasty moment from Maeglin too who came up the stairs 
                      next to me... 
  31,191    350 ft    He survived my first two arrows and got an attack in 
                      himself. 
  32,151     Gates    Entered The Gates of Angband
  32,197     Gates    Slew Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst

  32,213     Gates    You escaped the Iron Hells on 11 April 2012.
  32,213     Gates    You brought back all three Silmarils from Morgoth's 
                      crown! 




  ['Score' 141367786]

Posted on 10.4.2012 16:36
Last updated on 11.4.2012 12:51

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On 10.4.2012 16:36 Psi wrote:
My very first Sil archer. Not really sure what I am doing, but it seems to be effective enough so far. I'd really like to kill Morgoth (if I can get that far) but not sure how possible that is with archery! In desperate need of _Revelations so I can continue my forging adventure.

Any archery advice welcome!

On 10.4.2012 17:15 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
Don't miss! Hah, uh, yeah. Sorry. Song of sharpness works on arrows. I think that'd have to be crucial for killing the big daddy.

On 10.4.2012 17:20 Scatha wrote:
That's a great sword and shield for an archer.

I'd guess you've got a very powerful character here. Good luck with the end game!

Is your combat control built mostly on stealth and Listen? Or do just kill things quickly enough for that not to be an issue?

On 10.4.2012 23:05 half wrote:
It took me a while to understand the Shield of Strength...

Nicely weighted bow. Time for an artefact one?

Enjoying crippling shot? I find it to be very powerful for archery specialists.

On 10.4.2012 23:38 debo wrote:
Half: Does bow weight actually have an effect on anything other than total burden? (i.e. are there effects similar to what weight does to melee weapons?)

On 10.4.2012 23:40 debo wrote:
Also, what was the point of the shield of strength for those of us who suck at Sil? :)

On 10.4.2012 23:40 Psi wrote:
@HM - yep, not missing and sharpness are part of the grand plan. Sharpness will probably be on an amulet assuming I find enough forges.

@Scatha - I try and take things one at a time, but providing there is a little distance between me and my targets I can generally drop stuff before it reaches me anyway. Arrows of piercing are very handy for rows of critters in corridors. Interestingly I had a bit of fun being pursued by 3 grotesques at once - first time I could really watch what they did using Listen. However I just could not lose them. On previous characters I've been able to lose them by closing doors - is that down to more stealth perhaps?

@half - I made the bow at the first forge and haven't seen a better one all game. Found a couple of Doriath shortbows, but that is it. Crippling shot is great, but I miss the confusion of cruel blow. Even if I can slow Morgoth he is still going to be heading straight for me... and what do I do when he gets there? Assuming I am fast, does that make me three times faster than a slow Morgoth? So with rapid fire is that 6 arrows per one of his moves? Is his regeneration based on his speed in anyway? Big assumption that I get that far given I am new to archery.

I'll knock up an artefact bow soon I think. I'd like 1d11 with radiance and maybe a slay or two. Given the top end uniques out there, dragons and rauko may be sensible - though I'd love to be able to kill Troll Guards a little quicker. I hate the protection on serpents so I'd love to have extra dice against them rather than wasting my piercing arrows. I'm also feeling nervous about vampire lords - shame there is no slay for either!

A few questions on skills...

What would happen with flaming arrows on Dailir (or any artefact arrow) - does it survive? I assume Mogoth doesn't resist fire - what about poison (assuming I find some of those)?

Can concentration apply to archery?

With Listen I see asterisks which I can't target using 'f' for example. I can manually target them though, is there a penalty for that?

Are there any other obvious skills for an archer?

On 10.4.2012 23:46 Psi wrote:
@debo - a lighter bow weight, like weapon weight, increases your chance of criticals but reduces the potential bonus from strength. Rapid fire acts as if you had three less strength and dexterity. The shield takes me to 5 strength, so my two shots act as if I had 2 strength which gives me the maximum bonus on a 2lb bow. Sorry that doesn't sound very clear reading it back!

On 10.4.2012 23:57 Psi wrote:
Oh... and am I right in thinking that =Dam does not apply to archery?

On 11.4.2012 10:10 Psi wrote:
I was mistaken, =Dam does apply to bows - nice!

Nearly out of time, but kit is coming together nicely.

On 11.4.2012 10:52 Psi wrote:
Masterpiece made. Just time for a wander around 950...

On 11.4.2012 12:13 Psi wrote:
My shortest ever combat with Morgoth. He lasted 6 rounds with my 12 arrows registering the following damage: 70, 59, 43, 29, 26, 20, 79, 40, 60, 54, 62, 47.

On 11.4.2012 12:19 Psi wrote:
I have the silmarils and have taken Eye for detail in the hope of faring better finding traps and doors...

On 11.4.2012 12:48 debo wrote:
Ridonkulous.

On 11.4.2012 12:51 Psi wrote:
And I'm out. Archery can be pretty darn powerful.

On 11.4.2012 12:56 debo wrote:
I think it's time to name an artifact bow after Psi...

On 11.4.2012 12:57 debo wrote:
Was this really your very first archer ever, or did you kill a few before you got this one off the ground?

On 11.4.2012 13:06 Psi wrote:
@debo - yep, it was my very first attempt with one (well certainly the first with a bow - there is a chance I lost a char or two before the first guaranteed forge).

For the record, concentration does apply to archery too.

On 11.4.2012 13:21 decoy wrote:
Nice going! Very interesting choices.

I think what you meant to say though is "smithing can be pretty darn powerful". *wink*

On 11.4.2012 14:14 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
Obvious aimbot. Jeez, need an admin around here. haha. Good job! That's pretty impressive! I want your gloves, and maybe your amulet too.

On 11.4.2012 14:25 debo wrote:
"The Longbow of Psi: +4 to smithing. Aggravates forum posters. It grants you the ability: Masterpiece"

On 11.4.2012 16:09 Psi wrote:
@HM - sure, I've finished with them both now.

On 11.4.2012 17:12 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
Lol, I didn't notice you had listen. That also makes you a wallhack. Did Morgoth actually get slower when you critically struck him? I've considered getting just enough archery to use this ability to help me melee him.

On 11.4.2012 17:45 Psi wrote:
@HM - yes he did. I think he only moved twice whilst I assaulted him. Remember that you have to hit him for a double critical and the effect lasts for 2d4 turns.

On 11.4.2012 20:58 Fendell Orcbane wrote:
Yeah, archery is no joke. I'm sure you were surprised when you knocked the crown off with an arrow. I know I was !

On 11.4.2012 20:59 debo wrote:
We should make a William Tell variant of Angband -- "The Massive Red Apple of Morgoth"

On 11.4.2012 21:58 Scatha wrote:
Well, congratulations! At this point it's hard to continue to be surprised by your exploits, but I do continue to be impressed.

You've answered most of the questions you had. I'm not actually sure about Dailir -- half and I talked about this just the other day, but couldn't remember how it worked, so I'm afraid you might have to test.

On 15.4.2012 15:39 half wrote:
Great work Psi! Do you have any advice on balancing archery? We have so few archers that this is difficult to do. I'd previously found it to be a bit too good, and had made it worse for 1.0. Crippling Shot might need to be toned back a bit (harder to trigger? shorter duration? saving throw?). I had exactly the same type of confrontation with Morgoth, getting 6 shots per step he took, which is hard for him to recover from. Another issue is that with special arrows, flaming shot, and the difference in how far away the target is when they enter line of sight, an archer's best combat is quite a bit better than their worst.

On 17.4.2012 17:17 Psi wrote:
Hard to say really. It is especially hard to balance against an ubersmith build!

The final battle was rather anticlimactic. I'd lit up the right-hand, double-width corridor and placed a couple of glyphs across it in the hope of slowing Morgoth down and then taken my position as far away as my screen would allow. However he only managed two steps towards me! With hindsight I probably should have forged a second =Dam+2 instead of the =Dex ring and then I'd have hit even harder.

I imagine things would have been harder without arrows of piercing which were great against serpents and other high protection foes. I was very careful to only use them when I needed to and had a whole stockpile left to fight V.

I guess if you want to tone it down, then the obvious places are the 50% reduction against evasion, increasing the roll needed for criticals or increasing the number of criticals needed for crippling. However ranged combat is always going to be powerful in a game when most monsters only have melee attacks.

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