[Unangband 0.6.2 Character Dump]

 Name   Nibunte, the Knight Defender             Self  SB  EB  TB   Best   Curr
 Sex    Male               Age       21  STR:   18/19  +0  +6  +0  18/79
 Race   Man of Rohan       Height  5'10  INT:   18/13  +0  +0  +0  18/13
 Class  Paladin            Status    44  WIS:      16  +0  +2  +0     18
 Style  Shield & weapon                  DEX:   18/34  +0  +0  +0  18/34
 Title  Knight                           CON:   18/38  +0  +0  +0  18/38
 Home   Bilbo's House in Rivendell       CHR:   18/12  +0  +1  +0  18/22
 Target Orc Camp across Redhorn pass     AGI:      15  +0  +0  +0     15
                                         SIZ:      14  +0  +6  +0  18/20
 Level           27  HP        -49/374  Fight     (+2,-1)  Fighting      Superb
 Curr Exp     49741  Spell-Pts   40/51  WShld    (+10,+6)  Shooting   Excellent
 Max Exp      49741  Hit die        17  Bash       [4,+7]  Throwing        Good
 Adv Exp       1009  Armor    [21,+64]  Blows  4/turn(x3)  Stealth         Poor
 Depth      Lev  23  Infravis     0 ft  XBow    (+10,+10)  Save Throw Excellent
 MaxDepth   Lev  23  Gold        58250  Shots  1/turn(x2)  Disarming       Good
 Game Turn  2756000  Burden    160 lbs  Throw     (+2,+0)  Devices    Excellent
 Plr Turn    130731  % Burden      53%  Hurls  2/turn(x1)  Searching       Poor
 Act Turn    112385  Speed         -10  Weight    145 lbs  Digging    Excellent

 You are one of several children of a Townsman.  You are a credit to the
 family.  You have blue eyes, straight auburn hair, and a dark complexion.

 This is 25th Tuile of the 2890th year of the third age.
 You are on level 16 of Orc Camp across Redhorn pass.

  [Last Messages]

> You are surrounded by lava!
> One of your Scrolls titled "abbjor bjoru" of Phase Door {10% off} (n) was
destroyed!
> You are surrounded by lava!
> You climb out of the erupting lava.
> You are surrounded by lava!
> You are surrounded by lava!
> Some of your Scrolls titled "erevs ninrhov" of Word of Recall {10% off} (o)
were destroyed!
> *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> You failed to recite the prayer!
> You are surrounded by lava!
> Some of your Scrolls titled "erevs ninrhov" of Word of Recall {10% off} (o)
were destroyed!
> Your Cedar Staff (1d6) {tried} (p) is damaged!
> *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> You are surrounded by lava!
> You die.

  [Character Equipment]

a) a Broad Sword 'Acid wit' (2d5) (+8,+7) (+2)
   It senses natural creatures.  It is a useful ego item, with a random
   hidden ability.  
b) a Hand Crossbow of Strength and Size (x2) (+8,+10) (+3)
   It increases your strength and size by 3.  It sustains strength and size
   .  It is a useful ego item.  
c) a Marble Ring of Protection [+14]
   It is of great quality, but with no additonal powers.  
d) (nothing)
e) a Blackstone Amulet of Charisma (+1) <2 Demons>
   It provides resistance to fire.  It marks you as demonic.  
f) a Brass Lantern (with 8192 turns of light left) <Star>
g) Soft Leather Armour of Resist Confusion [4,+6]
   It provides resistance to powerful confusion.  It protects you from 
   confusion.  It is a useful ego item.  
h) Tabard [3,+4]
   It is of good quality, but with no additional powers.  
i) a Large Leather Shield [4,+7]
   It is of very good quality, but with no additional powers.  
j) an Iron Helm [5,+9]
   It is of very good quality, but with no additional powers.  
k) a Set of Gauntlets of Might [2,+2] (+3)
   It is a useful ego item, with a random hidden ability.  
l) a Pair of Hard Leather Boots of Poison [3,+6]
   It does x3 damage from poison.  It is a useful ego item.  

  [Character Equipment -- Quiver]

n) 55 Bolts (1d7) (+4,+5) {@f1=g, 10% off}
   It is of very good quality, but with no additional powers.  

  [Character Inventory]

a) a Prayer Book of Castigation (Fire proof) {@m1}
   It is not damaged by fire.  It is a useful ego item.  
b) a Prayer Book of Inquisition (Fire proof) {@m2}
   It is not damaged by fire.  It is a useful ego item.  
c) a Prayer Book of Exorcism {@m3}
d) a Prayer Book of Mandos {@m4}
e) a Magical Bag of Supplies
   with a) 10 Flasks of Oil
f) a Magical Bag of Scrying
   with a) 29 Scrolls titled "saip toxod" of Identify
        b) 9 Scrolls titled "u odti sour" of Read Magic
        c) 9 Scrolls titled "bit engwhon el" of Analyze Magic
        j) 3 Scrolls titled "wunion glen" of Detect Magic
        m) 16 Scrolls titled "kliman appbat" of Legend Lore
g) 5 Furry Mushrooms of Cure Serious Wounds {!E, 25% off}
h) 15 Rations of Food
i) 10 Violet Potions of Speed
j) 7 Magenta Potions of Cure Serious Wounds {10% off}
k) 9 Copper Speckled Potions of Cure Critical Wounds
l) a Tawny Potion of Cure Mortal Wounds
m) a map to the Crystal Castle
n) 10 Scrolls titled "abbjor bjoru" of Phase Door {10% off}
o) 10 Scrolls titled "erevs ninrhov" of Word of Recall {10% off}
p) a Cedar Staff of Cure Serious Wounds (1d6) (+0,+0) (0 charges)
q) a Robe of Charisma [2,+2] (+7)
   It increases your charisma by 7.  It sustains charisma.  It is a useful
   ego item.  

  [Home Inventory]

a) a Magical Bag of Black Magics
b) 2 Blood Rune stones
c) a Cross Rune stone
d) a Summoning Rune stone
e) a Storm Rune stone
f) a set of Prayer Beads of Cause Mortal Wounds
g) 10 Apples
h) a sprig of Athelas
i) a map to the sunken city of Numenor
j) a map to the mountain Caradhras
k) a Silver-Plated Ring of Free Action
l) Augmented Chain Mail of Resist Nether (-2) [16,+9]
   It provides resistance to nether.  It is a useful ego item.  
m) a Set of Leather Gloves of Intelligence [1,+1] (+4)
   It increases your intelligence by 4.  It sustains intelligence.  It is
   a useful ego item.  
n) a Cutlass (1d7) (+5,+3) <3 Earths>
   It provides resistance to shards.  It protects you from cuts.  It is a
   useful ego item.  
o) 4 Javelins 'Frostbite' (1d6) (+4,+4) (+3)
   It gives its wielder slow digestion.  It is a useful ego item, with a
   random hidden ability.  
p) a Spear 'Flametongue' (1d8) (+5,+6) (+2)
   It is a useful ego item, with a random hidden ability.  
q) a Harpoon 'Thunderhead' (1d8) (+5,+1) (+3)
   It is a useful ego item, with a random hidden ability.  

  [Dungeons Explored]

You have emerged victorious from the Big Cavern under Misty Mountains (5-13).
You've cleared the passage through the house of Beorn (15).
You have emerged victorious from cellars' back exit in the Maggot's farm (2-6).
You have emerged victorious from the dump outside Bree (0-4).
You have emerged victorious from the Troll Cave in Trollshaws Forest (4-6).
You have reached level 23 in Orc Camp across Redhorn pass (7-37).
You have emerged victorious from Old Forest (6-10).
You have emerged victorious from Bombadil's house (11-12).
You have emerged victorious from the Midgewater Marshes (10-17).
You have emerged victorious from the Woodmen Village (10-13).
You have visited the town of Hobbiton.
You have visited the stronghold of Rivendell.
You have visited the Ford to Rivendell.
You have visited Barrow-downs.
You have visited Bucklebury town in Buckland.
You have visited the Brandywine Ferry.
You have visited Dunland.

  [Self-Knowledge]

You are stunned.  You are climbing over an obstacle.  
You are carrying equipment that you have not fully identified.  It provides
resistance to fire.  

  [Spells Learnt]

Guided Blow              Cure Light Wounds        Bless
Detect Evil              Holy Water               Benediction
Neutralize Poison        Call Light               Find Traps
Malediction              Mighty Blow              Detect Doors/Stairs
Portal                   Cure Moderate Wounds     Scare Monster
Striking                 Radiant Blow             Resist Heat and Cold
Fiery Blow               Sanctuary                Satisfy Hunger
Chant                    Flame Strike             Resist Poison
Smite Demon              Earthquake               Sense Surroundings
Sense Invisible          Cure Critical Wounds     Smite Undead
Orb of Draining          Cure Minor Disease       Turn Undead
Protection from Evil     Remove Curse             Cure Mortal Wounds
Deadly Blow              Smite Dragon             Holy Blow
Cause Mortal Wounds      

  [Character Equipment Stat Modifiers, Sustains and Flags]

(+/-) ++  +     + 
      |}= "~(()]]]               |}= "~(()]]]
      abcdefghijkl@              abcdefghijkl@
 Str: .3........3..        Str:  .s........s..
 Int: .............        Int:  .............
 Wis: 2............        Wis:  .............
 Dex: .............        Dex:  .............
 Con: .............        Con:  .............
 Chr: ....1........        Chr:  ....s........
 Agi: .............        Agi:  .............
 Siz: .3........3..        Siz:  .s........s..
 Acid:+............        Disea:............. 
 Elec:.............        Blind:............. 
 Fire:.............        Confu:......+...... 
 Cold:.............        Sound:............. 
 Pois:.............        Shard:............. 
 Fear:.............        Nexus:............. 
 Lite:.............        Nethr:............. 
 Dark:.............        Chaos:............. 
Water:.............        Disen:............. 
      abcdefghijkl@              abcdefghijkl@ 
 Food:.............         Save:.............
Feath:.............        Devic:.............
 Glow:.............        Steal:.............
Regen:.............        Sear.:.............
Telep:.............        Infra:.............
Invis:.............        Tunn.:.............
FrAct:..........+..        Speed:.............
HLife:.............        Blows:.............
Activ:.............        Shots:.............
Throw:.............        Might:.............
Undea:.............        Healt:............. 
Demon:.............         Mana:..........3.. 
  Orc:.............        Exper:............. 
Troll:.............        Telep:............. 
Giant:.............        Spell:............. 
Dragn:.............         Evil:............. 
  Man:............+              abcdefghijkl@ 
Dwarf:.............              |}= "~(()]]]  
  Elf:.............                            
Natur:s............                            
      abcdefghijkl@                            
      |}= "~(()]]]                             


  [Home Inventory Stat Modifiers, Sustains and Flags]

(+/-)              + +++       
       &?????,,??=[]|///               &?????,,??=[]|///       
       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
 Str:  ..............3.........  Str:  ........................
 Int:  ............4...3.......  Int:  ........................
 Wis:  ........................  Wis:  ........................
 Dex:  ........................  Dex:  ........................
 Con:  ........................  Con:  ........................
 Chr:  ...............2........  Chr:  ........................
 Agi:  ........................  Agi:  ........................
 Siz:  ..............3.........  Siz:  ........................
       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
 Acid: ........................ Disea: ........................
 Elec: ................+....... Blind: ........................
 Fire: ........................ Confu: ........................
 Cold: ..............+......... Sound: ........................
 Pois: ........................ Shard: ........................
 Fear: ........................ Nexus: ........................
 Lite: ........................ Nethr: ...........+............
 Dark: ........................ Chaos: ........................
Water: ........................ Disen: ........................
       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
 Food: ........................  Save: ........................
Feath: ........................ Devic: ........................
 Glow: ........................ Steal: ........................
Regen: ........................ Sear.: ........................
Telep: ........................ Infra: ........................
Invis: ........................ Tunn.: ........................
FrAct: ..........+............. Speed: ........................
HLife: ........................ Blows: ........................
Activ: ........................ Shots: ........................
       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
Undea: ........................ Healt: ........................
Demon: ........................  Mana: ........................
  Orc: ........................ Exper: ........................
Troll: ........................ Telep: ........................
Giant: ........................ Spell: ........................
Dragn: ........................  Evil: ........................
  Man: ........................        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
Dwarf: ........................
  Elf: ........................

  [Options]
Game: Expand the power of the look command   : yes (expand_look)
Game: Expand the power of the list commands  : yes (expand_list)
Game: Map remembers all perma-lit grids      : yes (view_perma_grids)
Game: Map remembers all torch-lit grids      : no  (view_torch_grids)
Game: Generate dungeons with aligned rooms   : yes (dungeon_align)
Game: Generate dungeons with connected stairs: yes (dungeon_stair)
Game: Mark where you have detected traps     : no  (view_unsafe_grids)
Game: Mark where you have detected monsters  : no  (view_detect_grids)
Game: When running, ignore interesting floors: yes (run_ignore_floors)
Game: Show tips as you explore the dungeon   : yes (show_tips)
Adult: Allow purchase of stats using points  : yes (adult_point_based)
Adult: Allow specification of minimal stats  : no  (adult_auto_roller)
Adult: Restrict the use of stairs/recall     : no  (adult_ironman)
Adult: Restrict the use of stores/home       : no  (adult_no_stores)
Adult: Restrict creation of artifacts        : no  (adult_no_artifacts)
Adult: Randomize all of the artifacts        : no  (adult_rand_artifacts)
Adult: Play in Lord of the Rings campaign    : yes (adult_campaign)
Adult: Don't stack objects on the floor      : no  (adult_no_stacking)
Adult: Haggle in stores                      : no  (adult_haggle)
Adult: Scum for good levels                  : no  (adult_scum)
Adult: Start the game with simplest options  : no  (adult_beginner)
Adult: Reduce the number of birth options    : no  (adult_intermediate)
Adult: Always generate small levels          : no  (adult_small_levels)
Adult: Show all birth menus at start         : no  (adult_first_time)
Adult: Start the game with same choices      : no  (adult_quickstart)
Score: Peek into object creation             : no  (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation            : no  (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation            : no  (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else              : no  (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info            : no  (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death           : no  (score_live)
Score: Know complete artifact/ego info       : no  (score_lore)
Score: Auto-inscribe items as if known       : no  (score_auto)

Posted on 26.12.2007 04:09
Last updated on 26.12.2007 13:01

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On 26.12.2007 04:09 GCD wrote:
I seem to die shortly after posting a dump so I've delayed posting this. Switched from the usual mages I play to Paladin. Going quite well so far - killed Beorn and am currently diving down redhorn. I like the new areas in the version and I'm also happy with the new priest spell.
I think in general the priest class is way underpowered. For one thing if you are not a templar you can only use blessed weapons or bless yourself in order to avoid a penalty. As the spell failure goes up if you're using a non-blessed weapon you basically have to remove the weapon, bless yourself and then wield it which is quite annoying. Secondly, I find the priest spell much weaker than the mage's. I think one way to improve this is to have a store service or a spell that would allow to bless any weapon (including ego weapons and maybe even artifacts). Also, I would like to see a greater selection of priest damaging spells and a spell that's similar to the mage's concentration spell.
I've also tried playing different types of thief and Artisan. As for the artisan, the documentation states that he is the best user of devices but looking at the stats the mage is better, and some of the other classes appear to be equal. Another problem I had was playing a gifted thief. While I did gain mana to cast spells, and could browse the appropriate books, I couldn't learn any spells.
I also tried to play a ring-user. The documentation promises that you would be able to wield three rings at a time but I found I could still wield only two.

On 26.12.2007 09:41 andrewdoull wrote:
Re: The priest class being way underpowered. In general, the Templar is equivalent to the Angband priest, so play that if you're worried about the blessed weapon penalty.

And it was certainly my impression that the priest class in Angband was one of the easiest classes. And I've only improved the spell selection compared to Angband (made Sanctuary actually useful; combined Remove Fear and Slow Poison etc). Is it just because the mage class is that much better than Angband that you're making the comparison? Or does separating out the spell stats change things significantly? Or is the game just harder?

Will look at the other bugs you've reported.

On 26.12.2007 13:01 GCD wrote:
As expected I died shortly after posting the dump, stupidly drowning in a pool of lava I thought was a staircase.
As for your questions about the priest I think it's a combination of the factors. Unangband is definitely more difficult than vanilla and the mage class is definitely stronger than it is in vanilla (mostly at higher levels). The priest class does not have good damaging spells. The dispel spells are pretty good but they are costly mana-wise, and have high fail rates. The priest, therefore, has to rely on melee, which he's not great in, and is limited in his weapon selection. The priest spells added in the latest version go a long way to correcting this problem. I think you could complement them by adding:
1. A spell similar to the mage's concentration (you can call it meditation or prayer).
2. A low level summoning spell - perhaps summoning friendly spirits.
3. A possible solution to the problem with non-blessed weapons would be allowing to cast bless-like spells with the normal failure rate even when wielding non-blessed weapons. This would allow you to use the weapon without having to unwield it first.

On 26.12.2007 19:51 Bandobras wrote:
About the rings: you wield the third into your off-hand slot, which is only possible if the slot is empty --- I guess the documentation needs a clarification...

About the priest --- wouldn't increasing melee proficiency be a better solution? Shouldn't priest spells be more combat oriented (heal, bless, protection from evil) than direct damage spells (except against demons and, to an extent, evil)? Of course, they need to be different from other melee casters somewhat...

On 26.12.2007 23:36 GCD wrote:
Improving the priest's melee would make them too much like a paladin, so I think it would be better to give the priest an advantage in the spell casting area. I agree with you that priest spells should be more combat supportive than directly damaging, but maybe the existing spells could be enhanced. I still think a low-level summoning spell would be nice - maybe summoning a minor angel or novice priests from your church or something of the sort. Could also add spells that create temporary magical items (spiritual hammer, armor of god, shield of faith etc.)

On 28.12.2007 02:48 andrewdoull wrote:
There are spells that create temporary magical items ;)

Will work on some spell revisions. I agree with you that spells are a better idea than boosting melee directly.

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