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  • andrewdoull
    Unangband maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 872

    Originally posted by Arralen
    Dunno if this is WAD or a bug - a robe with lesser enchantment is worth more than an ego armor ?:

    Code:
      [Character Inventory]
     ...
    r) a Robe worth 1004 gold pieces [2,+6]
     It is of very good quality, but with no additional powers.  
    s) Soft Leather Armour of Searching worth 718 gold pieces [4,+7] (+1)
     It is a useful ego item.
    Each plus you get over the base armour value is worth more. (e.g. over +2) which probably makes it more valued than the +1 searching. Which is, after all, +1 searching...

    Andrew
    The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
    In UnAngband, the level dives you.
    ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
    Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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    • Big Al
      Swordsman
      • Apr 2007
      • 327

      Just got a really weird object description when reading a ?oLegend Lore on a Cesti of Might. "You can apply 23 unruned runes to and Container, Crownor GlovesYou can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any...."

      It was dropped by Khamul, who, oddly enough, didn't disappear from the visible monster term once i had killed him.

      Screen capture: http://www.ualberta.ca/~aphillip/storage/odd_desc.pgn
      Last edited by Big Al; April 20, 2008, 10:45.
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      • Bandobras
        Knight
        • Apr 2007
        • 726

        Originally posted by Big Al
        Hilarious!

        BTW, UnAndrew, I suppose you've split the gold version at before r2069, haven't you? What about r2070 and r2072, should I merge them to gold? I guess, I should. Revert if you don't think so.

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        • andrewdoull
          Unangband maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 872

          Originally posted by Bandobras
          Hilarious!

          BTW, UnAndrew, I suppose you've split the gold version at before r2069, haven't you? What about r2070 and r2072, should I merge them to gold? I guess, I should. Revert if you don't think so.
          I'm not sure how to get them once you've merged them... I've already included 2070. 2072 can wait, unless it's critical.

          Andrew
          The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
          In UnAngband, the level dives you.
          ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
          Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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          • andrewdoull
            Unangband maintainer
            • Apr 2007
            • 872

            Originally posted by Big Al
            Just got a really weird object description when reading a ?oLegend Lore on a Cesti of Might. "You can apply 23 unruned runes to and Container, Crownor GlovesYou can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any You can apply 5 Sword runes to any...."

            It was dropped by Khamul, who, oddly enough, didn't disappear from the visible monster term once i had killed him.

            Screen capture: http://www.ualberta.ca/~aphillip/storage/odd_desc.pgn
            What build number are you at? I fixed this about 2076...

            Andrew
            The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
            In UnAngband, the level dives you.
            ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
            Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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            • Bandobras
              Knight
              • Apr 2007
              • 726

              Originally posted by andrewdoull
              I'm not sure how to get them once you've merged them
              svn up

              or an UI equivalent. It's already all inside unangband/unangband in SVN. I didn't see 2070 there, BTW.

              Edit: I'm just merging in 2083, as well, since it's only in trunk right now, not in gold. (I do this by 'svn merge -c 2083 http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/...runk/unangband unangband/' and then svn ci.)

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              • andrewdoull
                Unangband maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 872

                Originally posted by Bandobras
                svn up

                or an UI equivalent. It's already all inside unangband/unangband in SVN. I didn't see 2070 there, BTW.

                Edit: I'm just merging in 2083, as well, since it's only in trunk right now, not in gold. (I do this by 'svn merge -c 2083 http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/...runk/unangband unangband/' and then svn ci.)
                I've just released binaries/source at the moment - you may want to update these as well, as I'm heading off to bed after this.

                Andrew
                The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
                In UnAngband, the level dives you.
                ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
                Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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                • Arralen
                  Swordsman
                  • May 2007
                  • 309

                  Originally posted by andrewdoull
                  Originally Posted by Arralen
                  Dunno if this is WAD or a bug - a robe with lesser enchantment is worth more than an ego armor ?:

                  Code:
                    [Character Inventory]
                   ...
                  r) a Robe worth 1004 gold pieces [2,+6]
                   It is of very good quality, but with no additional powers.  
                  s) Soft Leather Armour of Searching worth 718 gold pieces [4,+7] (+1)
                   It is a useful ego item.
                  Each plus you get over the base armour value is worth more. (e.g. over +2) which probably makes it more valued than the +1 searching. Which is, after all, +1 searching...
                  Each plus you get over the base armour value is worth more. (e.g. over +2) which probably makes it more valued than the +1 searching. Which is, after all, +1 searching...

                  If you check closely, you see that the robe is [+6] while the armor is[+7] (+1). Even if the base value is erroneously subtracted from the enchantment value, it would still be [+4] vs. [+3] (+1) .. price should be equal than, shouldn't it?
                  No, I don't have a clue 'bout C, and I'm not starting my own variant.
                  Never. Ever.

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                  • andrewdoull
                    Unangband maintainer
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 872

                    Originally posted by andrewdoull
                    I've just released binaries/source at the moment - you may want to update these as well, as I'm heading off to bed after this.

                    Andrew
                    Actually - just released what 2083 is. I've patched the distributions with both this and 2070 manually so no need to update them.

                    Andrew
                    The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
                    In UnAngband, the level dives you.
                    ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
                    Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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                    • andrewdoull
                      Unangband maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 872

                      Originally posted by Arralen
                      If you check closely, you see that the robe is [+6] while the armor is[+7] (+1). Even if the base value is erroneously subtracted from the enchantment value, it would still be [+4] vs. [+3] (+1) .. price should be equal than, shouldn't it?
                      There's an underlying power computation that figures out prices. It may need a bit of tweaking - you'll find that the +1 searching is computed at a different value to the extra [+1]

                      Andrew
                      The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
                      In UnAngband, the level dives you.
                      ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
                      Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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                      • andrewdoull
                        Unangband maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 872

                        Originally posted by andrewdoull
                        There's an underlying power computation that figures out prices. It may need a bit of tweaking - you'll find that the +1 searching is computed at a different value to the extra [+1]

                        Andrew
                        And the robe is harder to enchant up to +6 than the armour is to enchant up to +7, which from an economics point of view makes sense for the increased price.

                        Andrew
                        The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
                        In UnAngband, the level dives you.
                        ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
                        Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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                        • Bandobras
                          Knight
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 726

                          Originally posted by andrewdoull
                          I've just released binaries/source at the moment - you may want to update these as well, as I'm heading off to bed after this.
                          Oh, so you manually added 2070 and 2083 to your local sources? I've checked the released sources and indeed they have the new changes.txt. OK, then, let it be. There will probably be some bugfix versions of gold (gold2, gold3, etc.) so the changes merged by me will find their way to a gold release in time.

                          Congratulations on the release!

                          P.S. Arralen, the robe is much lighter and has lower base AC (one of these is important for mages that lose SP otherwise), but harder to enchant. This is why subtracting base AC is not a bug and why the robe is more expensive. I mean, the general logic is OK, even if in that particular case, for this particular character it looks wierd. Ideas to make it look OK are welcome...

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                          • Big Al
                            Swordsman
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 327

                            I was playing rev 2077 when that happened, though something may have gotten messed up with my savefile before that - I've been updating the game pretty much any time something new gets added to the svn.
                            Come play Metroplexity!
                            Un, V MX H- D c-- f- PV s- d+ P++ M+
                            c-- S I++ So+ B+ ac- !GHB SQ RQ+ V+

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                            • andrewdoull
                              Unangband maintainer
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 872

                              Originally posted by Big Al
                              I was playing rev 2077 when that happened, though something may have gotten messed up with my savefile before that - I've been updating the game pretty much any time something new gets added to the svn.
                              Don't worry - just fixing it. I corrected the kind code, but didn't finish writing the ego_item case.

                              BTW: This is to allow people to learn rune recipes for items, for those people who wanted it.

                              Andrew
                              The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
                              In UnAngband, the level dives you.
                              ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
                              Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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