So - what are your thoughts on wilderness?

[Arralen]

I suspect all those crying 'bout the FAA wilderness haven't seen any wilderness vaults yet

What I have tried (with I think some but not complete success) to do in FA is to make the wilderness a regular part of the game rather than an add-on. I don't expect any player to go to every bit of the wilderness - in fact, there may be bits that no-one will ever go to.

You're lucky you never played early versions where there was more wilderness

I like the FAA wilderness, and didn't have any problems with earlier version.
Ok, I did have some problems, but nothing that a new character wasn't able to cure
For me, it's a pity that the wilderness got shortened ... besides those pesky mountains, maybe, which IMHO still need a little bit of an overhaul as far as the generation algho is concerned - they still look odd ... .

I would rather have the dungeons shortened, and the wilderness levels just around the dungeons made more dangerous.


Just got an intriguing idea - with a little bit of engine rewrite
it should be possible to have seamless levels :
Why not "pre-gen" the next wilderness level and stitch it together with the current one as soon as the @ gets near enough to look over the border ?

Oh, and maybe add pack animals that follow the @ around the wilderness levels, up to the dungeon entrance, where they (and a good part of the consumables) have to be left behind, to be fetched again after the @ returns from the dungeons depths.
And then, get rid of recall scrolls. Or make them only work for the return to the surface.


hmm .... "SeamlessBand" ...

[Adley]

I suspect all those crying 'bout the FAA wilderness haven't seen any wilderness vaults yet

Correct. It sounds epic, but far away. Add a CatH style "nightmare mode"?
There is a talk about seamless Dungeons in vanilla forum...

[AnonymousHero]

Disclosure: The wilderness types I've tried are: Vanilla (i.e. none), Heng-/Entroband/ToME (overhead map) and FAangband (esssentially dungeons with guaranteed stairs in the "necessary" directions).

My preference is definitely: Overhead map or none. The FAangband wilderness is extremely annoying (though mercifully smaller) in comparison to the regular "overhead map" type wilderness.