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  • AR_chie
    Apprentice
    • May 2007
    • 71

    [U] beginner

    ok, I want to try Uangband... choosing a hero: wood-elf ranger... and... damn.. I can't see any stairs to explore dungeon (town either hasn't door to wilderness). What's wrong make I?
  • Matthias
    Adept
    • Apr 2007
    • 201

    #2
    Press "<" as in stair up to see a list of locations to travel too.

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    • AR_chie
      Apprentice
      • May 2007
      • 71

      #3
      a, I see... my stomach was 'epty' and I couldn't see any way, but when I feed yourself the list appears

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      • Bandobras
        Knight
        • Apr 2007
        • 726

        #4
        Originally posted by AR_chie
        wood-elf ranger?
        A good choice. The best missiles skill ever. What did you specialize in? Bows and crossbows are great, because you can coat their missiles with mushrooms or potions (in particular flasks of oil, for the start).

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        • will_asher
          DaJAngband Maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 1124

          #5
          Since it's my first game of Un in a long time, I thought it be appropriate to add my question to this thread. I went down in the dungeon in Bree and I can't hit any monsters. I miss about 98% of the time. I tried again spending more points on agility for to hit, but the same thing happened. Why am I not hitting anything?
          Will_Asher
          aka LibraryAdventurer

          My old variant DaJAngband:
          http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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          • Bandobras
            Knight
            • Apr 2007
            • 726

            #6
            Race, class, weapon? You seem to be just a pitiful melee fighter. Don't worry, you may still find your way.

            You should be spending point on DEX and INT, in that order, if you want increased to hit chance. But if you are not a fighter of a fighting race, this will work only after some more levels --- you'll gain both level bonuses and DEX bonuses (if you choose to increase DEX). For now try to inflict damage in a manner that gives good to hit chance for your race/class (every combo has some way, we hope), or even in a way independent of hit chance (there are some). Remember that throwing and missiles launchers are separate skills.

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            • will_asher
              DaJAngband Maintainer
              • Apr 2007
              • 1124

              #7
              I was a shadow fairy paladin with a long sword, and I didn't bother spending any points in intelligence because I forgot that it was important for non-magetype spellcasters in UnAngband.

              OK, I've looked at my character screen with says my fighting is awful (I don't understand why I have 15 str and 15 dex it shouldn't be thAt bad), shooting is very bad, and throwing is poor. So throwing sounds like the least bad of those, but there's no throwing weapons in the weapon store. Seems like even if my fighting is awful I should be able to hit a white snake once in awhile.

              BTW, is there a way to turn off mouse support? I click back and forth between the game and my internet browser.
              Last edited by will_asher; August 25, 2007, 20:30.
              Will_Asher
              aka LibraryAdventurer

              My old variant DaJAngband:
              http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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              • Bandobras
                Knight
                • Apr 2007
                • 726

                #8
                Originally posted by will_asher
                OK, I've looked at my character screen with says my fighting is awful (I don't understand why I have 15 str and 15 dex it shouldn't be thAt bad)
                Shadow fairies are almost immaterial, so they are _really_ bad at anything involving physical strenght. But they, as the only race, regenerate mana faster!

                shooting is very bad, and throwing is poor.
                Yeah, you've managed to choose the only race that is poor at all fighting. Moreover, Paladin is initially poor at magic. However, you'll get nice bonuses to fighting every level and quite soon also Bless, etc. Anyway, probably the weakest starting combo in the whole game.

                So throwing sounds like the least bad of those, but there's no throwing weapons in the weapon store.
                But there is a lot in other stores. Use your imagination. Some items even don't have to hit to cause damage. There are also traps, magic devices, etc., etc.

                BTW, is there a way to turn off mouse support?
                No clue.

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                • Daven_26d1
                  Adept
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 211

                  #9
                  Strangely I find the idea of a poor, frustrated, shadow fairy paladin one that I'd like to play. I haven't grabbed Un yet, but I'm guessing if you try to grab a bit of gold somehow - (maybe sell your sword and buy a smaller blade, seeing as how you can't hit anything anyway) - I imagine that the cheapest attack wand and/or some ?bless or !hero (or whatever Un has) should give you the levels and treasure you need to get started.


                  I have a sort of related question - how many races/classes are in Un? It sounds a bit Z to me for character creation.
                  You sold a Broken Sword (1d2) (-2,-4) {average} (j) for 1 gold.
                  The shopkeeper howls in agony!
                  You say "Dude, the clue is in the name...".

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                  • Big Al
                    Swordsman
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 327

                    #10
                    As far as I can recall, twenty-six races, eleven classes, thirty-two or so 'styles' (kind of sub-classes).
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                    c-- S I++ So+ B+ ac- !GHB SQ RQ+ V+

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                    • will_asher
                      DaJAngband Maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1124

                      #11
                      Is there a description of the races anywhere? I've heard that there's a lack of documentation for Un, but there's got to be something. I don't understand the different races of human either. What's the difference between them (besides a couple of them having a bonus for one stat), and what's the point of having all the different races of humans?

                      I also kinda wonder why paladin was highlighted for the shadow fairy race, isn't that supposed to mean it's one of the easier classes for that race?

                      [edit: 1 minute after posting] I just tried to load my saved game, and it gave me an error message saying my savefile is broken. I didn't do anything to any of the files in the directory in between. Anyone know why this is happening?
                      Will_Asher
                      aka LibraryAdventurer

                      My old variant DaJAngband:
                      http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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                      • andrewdoull
                        Unangband maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 872

                        #12
                        Originally posted by will_asher
                        Is there a description of the races anywhere? I've heard that there's a lack of documentation for Un, but there's got to be something. I don't understand the different races of human either. What's the difference between them (besides a couple of them having a bonus for one stat), and what's the point of having all the different races of humans?

                        I also kinda wonder why paladin was highlighted for the shadow fairy race, isn't that supposed to mean it's one of the easier classes for that race?

                        [edit: 1 minute after posting] I just tried to load my saved game, and it gave me an error message saying my savefile is broken. I didn't do anything to any of the files in the directory in between. Anyone know why this is happening?
                        The paladin class was 'greyed out', meaning its one of the hardest classes for that race...

                        Could you send me the save file and I'll fix it for you?
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                        • Fuma
                          Adept
                          • May 2007
                          • 114

                          #13
                          I'm pretty sure the paladin was highlighted for him. The character creation screen is *really* screwed up. Unless you use the arrow keys to choose your character, you can be almost certain to get something different.

                          For example I wanted a male werewolf warrior mage, so I pressed B T something, something, and got a different race/class. Every time that I tried. Only using the arrow keys and enter was I able to get what I wanted.
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                          • Bandobras
                            Knight
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 726

                            #14
                            But there is a lot in other stores. Use your imagination. Some items even don't have to hit to cause damage.
                            Unless there is NOTHING useful in the stores, as in my current game (Shadow Fairy Paladin, incidentally ). This is what irks me in UnAngband for years --- no guaranteed torches, oil, Phase Door, spikes, etc. At least some ammo (though usually of the kind you don't need) and little throwing weapons are there almost always. I really like it in the other variants where WOR, ID, oil, food, 99 basic ammo, etc. is guaranteed all the time.

                            Oh, well, I guess I will have to use my imagination. And there is always the 5&#37; chance to hit...

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                            • will_asher
                              DaJAngband Maintainer
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1124

                              #15
                              How do I send you my save file? It's probably not worth it anyway because I hadn't gotten anywhere yet.

                              Also, I double-checked and the paladin was highlighted for the shadow fairy. You might want to fix that.
                              Will_Asher
                              aka LibraryAdventurer

                              My old variant DaJAngband:
                              http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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