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  • Fuma
    Adept
    • May 2007
    • 114

    #16
    To clear things out a little:
    I did not say "drop the wiki, use vi". From what I read I thought that you wanted to use a wiki in order to display a simple page with links and reviews, which I think would be overkill. Also, I missed the fact that you were in the process of setting up the wiki already.
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    • Magnate
      Angband Devteam member
      • May 2007
      • 5110

      #17
      Well, I have great sympathy with anyone who dislikes or has trouble with vi. I am old enough to have been told it's the king of editors, and young enough to have failed to master it. Same with emacs. I use nano/pico/whatever if I'm working in a console. There was a really nice editor called le which did colouring and indents and stuff (a bit like IDLE, the Python gui), but it never caught on (last time I looked it had some unresolvable dependency in Debian so I left it).

      Anyway, I just wanted to say that I managed to set up my wiki in a single afternoon. It's not much to look at, and there's precious little content yet, but it was easy enough to get working - I'm not stupid, but I'm not a *nix guru either.

      If you want to check it out, it's here

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      • andrewdoull
        Unangband maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 872

        #18
        Originally posted by Magnate
        Anyway, I just wanted to say that I managed to set up my wiki in a single afternoon.
        If you want to check it out, it's here
        Is there any reason you chose a wiki for this particular project? I'm confident a blog would do the same e.g. I hold my opinions strongly one at a time, and tend to forget about them later
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        In UnAngband, the level dives you.
        ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
        Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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        • TJA
          Adept
          • Aug 2007
          • 117

          #19
          Magnate, i planned to use the wiki for similar things as you
          I wanted to easy edit pages for my own and others reference ...

          My wiki is still empty - mainly because i could not find a way to edit regular webpages with the wiki.

          For example:

          The page http://www.tja-server.de contains some links ...

          Now, i want to edit this page with the wiki!

          At best in a transparent way - the wiki should be invisible for the regular user of this site.
          Editing would be done over wiki-pages at http://www.tja-server.de/mywiki
          But any changes made should be visible on the normal index-page of the domain.


          Mh. Not sure if i could explain what i mean


          BTW, Andrew ... a Blog could possibly also handle my wishes, but i am not sure how seary to cross-link pages and use a markup-language.
          Do you know a good Blog-Software (Linux)?

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          • TJA
            Adept
            • Aug 2007
            • 117

            #20
            I am not sure anymore that a Wikki can do what i want.

            I want something like this forum - i can just write an URL and in my webbrowser this will be shown as clickable link.

            This way i want to easily manage whole pages of URLs - for use in a webbrowser.

            If i do this in the wikki, it will destroy my page formating ...
            If i write the URLs within "{{{", the URLs will not be clickable :-(

            Any idea?

            Ups - this is quite Off Topic.

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            • andrewdoull
              Unangband maintainer
              • Apr 2007
              • 872

              #21
              Originally posted by TJA
              I am not sure anymore that a Wikki can do what i want.

              I want something like this forum - i can just write an URL and in my webbrowser this will be shown as clickable link.

              This way i want to easily manage whole pages of URLs - for use in a webbrowser.

              If i do this in the wikki, it will destroy my page formating ...
              If i write the URLs within "{{{", the URLs will not be clickable :-(

              Any idea?

              Ups - this is quite Off Topic.
              Forget trying to host something yourself. Just set up a blog on www.blogspot.com (or any of the competition), create a links section (like I have on the right hand side of mine) and copy and paste the links in you want.
              The Roflwtfzomgbbq Quylthulg summons L33t Paladins -more-
              In UnAngband, the level dives you.
              ASCII Dreams: http://roguelikedeveloper.blogspot.com
              Unangband: http://unangband.blogspot.com

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              • Fuma
                Adept
                • May 2007
                • 114

                #22
                Probably not too good and a hack'ish way, but maybe setting up a php script that just converts the URLs the way you want?
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                • TJA
                  Adept
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 117

                  #23
                  No, Andrew - i always do such things myself
                  I mean "try" to do them myself

                  FUME, thought of this already and am trying to combine a bash-Skript with my Wiki.
                  This way i could edit the list in a webbrowser and still have a revision history and also get a usefull HTML page to show ...

                  It seems, i need a HTML formatter from a forum.

                  We will see

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                  • Magnate
                    Angband Devteam member
                    • May 2007
                    • 5110

                    #24
                    Originally posted by andrewdoull
                    Is there any reason you chose a wiki for this particular project? I'm confident a blog would do the same e.g. I hold my opinions strongly one at a time, and tend to forget about them later
                    I thought about this quite a bit. My blog is like a diary - a chronological record of everything and nothing. It's not about anything in particular, in the way that yours is.

                    I know I could have used a blog for the whole thing, but I chose to separate the stuff which is about what's currently happening (blog) and the stuff which is my long-term opinions and interests (wiki). The former is really only of interest to my family and friends. The latter, when it gets a bit more populated, will hopefully be where I attract other people to read and post stuff.

                    The other reason was simply that I wanted to try setting up and managing a wiki. Which reminds me, I still haven't worked out how to let people log in and create new pages. Ho hum.

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                    "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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                    • TJA
                      Adept
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 117

                      #25
                      I found something like "ReStructuredText" = RST that *may* be able to do what i want
                      Bad thing is, Wiki, Python and Apache do not seem to like my docutils Installation ... needs more time :-(

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