Experience draining, bleah

[Chud]

I'm playing a rare-for-me warrior, and I've gotten far enough to have fire immunity and just about every resist... except hold life. And at DL75, CL48 (currently 47) I'm finding that creatures that drain experience are the bane of my existence. So annoying!

So, when you are below full experience and kill something, most of that experience goes toward refilling what was drained, but some small portion still advances your max experience -- what percentage is that? I'm guessing 5-10% maybe, but just curious. :-)

Thanks!

[Grotug]

I remember the answer being 10%.

[Sky]

none, AFAIK.

ok, after testing, a really tiny amount.

anyway, HL is essential below DL65. "essential" as in, unless you want to live in paranoia. getting drained 50000xp by a mob that's not even worth 1000xp is reeeeally annoying .

[DavidMedley]

Last time I participated in a discussion on this topic I pointed out how "not fun" this is. I think our best alternative was max HP drain instead of max XP drain, and it would heal the monster, too.

[Pete Mack]

Drain life is way less painful than drain stats, especially str and dex. And usually undead are glass cannons easily dispatched by archery.

[misanthropope]

my big problem with warriors is how unimportant experience is to them. pretty much every other class, coming out of a won fight a level down would really hurt my feelings, but pretty much every other class has much better remedies available.

[luneya]

Hold life helps with direct experience draining attacks. IIRC, hold life doesn't protect against experience loss from nether or time attacks. If experience drain is really a problem for you, stockpile potions of restore life levels. It's the only effective remedy other than killing so much stuff that the experience drain is moot.

[Sky]

Hold life helps with direct experience draining attacks. IIRC, hold life doesn't protect against experience loss from nether or time attacks. If experience drain is really a problem for you, stockpile potions of restore life levels. It's the only effective remedy other than killing so much stuff that the experience drain is moot.

it does help against nether attacks - you get a saving throw against the xp loss.

[Monkey Face]

I believe Hold life gives you a saving throw and also reduces the experience drain by 90% in cases where the saving throw fails. So if an attack would normally drop you by 1000 experience points, with hold life, you will only lose 100.

[whartung]

I haven't been hit hard enough to check, but do you lose levels? Or just XP?

I agree with others that XP loss is less important than stat loss, and Restore Life Levels is a reasonably common potion.

But it's no fun to waste all of the time in a vault being down on XP. All Restore Life does is reinforce how much of a waste of time it was (barring shiny objects, of course).

[sffp]

I haven't been hit hard enough to check, but do you lose levels? Or just XP?

I agree with others that XP loss is less important than stat loss, and Restore Life Levels is a reasonably common potion.

But it's no fun to waste all of the time in a vault being down on XP. All Restore Life does is reinforce how much of a waste of time it was (barring shiny objects, of course).

Ha - you can lose levels. If you lose enough wis/int from stat drain, you can lose spells. Something like "You have forgotten the spell "Earth Rising". You have forgotten the spell "Lightning Strike"

But honestly being in a vault isn't for the XP - it's for the loot....

[Chud]

I haven't been hit hard enough to check, but do you lose levels? Or just XP?

I agree with others that XP loss is less important than stat loss, and Restore Life Levels is a reasonably common potion.

But it's no fun to waste all of the time in a vault being down on XP. All Restore Life does is reinforce how much of a waste of time it was (barring shiny objects, of course).

You lose levels if you lose enough XP to cross the level threshold (in the wrong direction).

[archolewa]

You lose levels if you lose enough XP to cross the level threshold (in the wrong direction).

In earlier versions you could even exploit this if you had just leveled up to regain stat loss much sooner than normal. Get drained until you lose the level you just gained, then kill a few enemies. You quickly regain the lost level, and since you leveled up, you recover all your stats!

Don't think this works in the most recent version, which honestly makes me sad. I love it when games let you exploit bad things to your advantage.

[Monkey Face]

Yes, you can lose levels if you cross over the threshold (and it can even be multiple levels if you get hit enough). The good news is that when you go back over the level threshold in the positive direction, your stats are restored just like when you leveled up initially.

[sffp]

In earlier versions you could even exploit this if you had just leveled up to regain stat loss much sooner than normal. Get drained until you lose the level you just gained, then kill a few enemies. You quickly regain the lost level, and since you leveled up, you recover all your stats!

Don't think this works in the most recent version, which honestly makes me sad. I love it when games let you exploit bad things to your advantage.

This still works in 4.2