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  • gtrudeau88
    Scout
    • Nov 2018
    • 32

    Would you dive deeper and how deep?



    Still trying to win my 1st mage (won 2x with warrior). I have 2 deep descent scrolls in my home. Would you dive deep and if so how deep?
  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    #2
    Use careth asdraig, with azhagal possibly as a swap for fire immunity.
    Use ring of CON instead of strength (or INT, if it doesn't affect your base fail rate.)

    What you need most are HP and speed. Speed won't show much up til dl 65 vaults. You can go much deeper than dl 30.

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    • gtrudeau88
      Scout
      • Nov 2018
      • 32

      #3
      Thanks. I followed your suggestions. I going to dive to 35 and then 40 using the scrolls. I decided to wear the rings for Const. and Int and take off strength. I'm 50K points from advancing, I have sips of Min... to restore lost strength, but lack any Vigor mushrooms should my Int get reduced so I wanted the sustain Int.

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      • gtrudeau88
        Scout
        • Nov 2018
        • 32

        #4
        My hobbit mage is still alive (link to updated ladder file is above). I have very little resistances beyond the basic 4 but I've got great stealth and ESp which has kept me from trouble. I've dived to level 67 I think.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #5
          You have rPoison (rBase+1). That is the most important high resist. rDark is very good too. The usual trouble is that mage HP at DL ~45 is often so low that in-depth monsters can still 1-shot you even with resists. You have crazy high HP though, so nothing to worry about. Above 600 HP, no monster in the game can 1-shot you with rBase+1. Your problem is speed, but you should be able to maintain permanent haste self. That is enough to take you to DL 75 (speed ring depth) with your current gear.

          Also: ditch Turmil. No way will you use that as a mage, and it is too heavy for imCold swap.

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          • gtrudeau88
            Scout
            • Nov 2018
            • 32

            #6
            I made it to lvl 47 and I'm on dungeon level 84 I think. Found one ring of speed +6 but it isn't good enough in my mind to justify removing either the ring of const +6 or ring of Int +6. My base speed is only +1 and I have good resistances.

            Would you do anything different?

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            • Pete Mack
              Prophet
              • Apr 2007
              • 6883

              #7
              Probably not for a mage. The difference between effrctive speeds 11 and 17 are much less than between speeds 1 and 7. I have made this decision before and come to the same conclusion you do.

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              • gtrudeau88
                Scout
                • Nov 2018
                • 32

                #8
                I died. I just killed a whole lot of the wraiths and my telepathy didn't detect the maelstrom unique which was behind rubble. I cleared the rubble and was immediately executed.

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                • Gauss
                  Adept
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 110

                  #9
                  Anyone knows wich monsters don't get telepathy detected?
                  I assume those that aren't "intelligent", but that's ambiguous IMO.

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    #10
                    E, v, ',' and NO_MIND flag.

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