Scroll of Identify...that didn't(?)

[Odsoc]

I used a scroll of identify on an amulet that I had found but it's stats/powers still remained hidden. Do I have to use another scroll on it?

[Mondkalb]

I used a scroll of identify on an amulet that I had found but it's stats/powers still remained hidden. Do I have to use another scroll on it?

It may have more than one ability. The scrolls only identify one rune per use. This one you should already see though.

[Sky]

What if we had Remove Curse work as Identify?

You have an amulet (+2) {??}
cast Rcurse
Curse (power 6)《
Curse (power 16)
Curse (power 58)

You have learned the curse Treachery! The curse is removed!

[Odsoc]

Thanks for the info.

[Sky]

I should have explained the leap in logic in my previous post. Its that using early id on early items - mostly cursed - is a waste of good id scrolls.

[Derakon]

It reveals one rune, exactly the same as using it at any other time. How is that a waste?

[Sky]

because if you use it on a sword (+5,+5) {??} and it turns out that the {??} is a bunch of runes, you have learned runes that YOU DO NOT WANT as opposed to RUNES THAT YOU WANT.

oh wow look, a pike of treacherous weapon, exactly what i wanted!

[Derakon]

But you're gonna have to learn all the runes eventually, right? What's so bad about learning a curse?

[Sky]

eh, while that's true, ideally you'd want - as a player - to know the useful ones before you learn the curses. as most curses don't have any positive effects, you'll never use any of the items identified, thus "a waste of ID".

perhaps in the future we can have a two-tier curse system. for example, Treacherous Weapon could be changed to Bloodthirsty, and akin to Stormbringer, it could do more damage but occasionally hurt you as well.

[Pete Mack]

Sky--i rarely ID all the curses in a single game. I certainly wouldn't waste an ID on some lousy +5 sword with no obvious attributes (like rBlind, stat boost, blessed, etc.) The only time to spend ID on an object is if there's a chance you might actually want to use it. If you really care about curses, take some cursed objects back to the stores where they will be IDed for free.

[grumbleguts]

Sky--i rarely ID all the curses in a single game. I certainly wouldn't waste an ID on some lousy +5 sword with no obvious attributes (like rBlind, stat boost, blessed, etc.) The only time to spend ID on an object is if there's a chance you might actually want to use it. If you really care about curses, take some cursed objects back to the stores where they will be IDed for free.

For the cost of two word of recall scrolls actually.

[Pete Mack]

@grumbleguts:
That's essentially free, when amortized. You can carry more than one item, and you can wait until you need to return for other reasons. I guess the real cost is an inventory slot.