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  • Derakon
    Prophet
    • Dec 2009
    • 9022

    #16
    Originally posted by Nick
    Yeah, it's in TANG
    ...well played, sir.

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    • Grotug
      Veteran
      • Nov 2013
      • 1637

      #17
      Why were Bronze dragons removed from V?
      Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

      Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

      "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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      • Derakon
        Prophet
        • Dec 2009
        • 9022

        #18
        Originally posted by Grotug
        Why were Bronze dragons removed from V?
        It was argued that "confusion" didn't make sense as an element any more than "blindness" would have (and no, there was no Silver Dragon breathing blindness at things). They literally breathed confusion at you.

        Since they didn't do anything else notable, they got removed, as did Bronze DSM. I suppose the contrarian approach would have been to introduce Silver Dragons that breathe blindness, and Gold Dragons that breathe stunning.

        (What it means for something to breathe darkness or light has not thus far been addressed, so far as I am aware)

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        • Werbaer
          Adept
          • Aug 2014
          • 182

          #19
          Originally posted by Pete Mack
          I am pretty sure that rChaos didn't grant confusion proofing in V.
          From the 2.9.0 changelog:
          •It is no longer true that "resist chaos" implies "resist confusion". However, all base objects and artifacts which provide "resist chaos" explicitly provide "resist confusion" as well.

          I think it was in 3.0 when the last part was removed, and Thorin (or Chaos / Balance DSM) stopped to provide protection from confusion.

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          • EpicMan
            Swordsman
            • Dec 2009
            • 455

            #20
            Originally posted by Derakon
            It was argued that "confusion" didn't make sense as an element any more than "blindness" would have (and no, there was no Silver Dragon breathing blindness at things). They literally breathed confusion at you.

            Since they didn't do anything else notable, they got removed, as did Bronze DSM. I suppose the contrarian approach would have been to introduce Silver Dragons that breathe blindness, and Gold Dragons that breathe stunning.

            (What it means for something to breathe darkness or light has not thus far been addressed, so far as I am aware)
            Or inertia, gravity, "pure force" (are there force hounds in V?). There are many elements that are odd.

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            • fph
              Veteran
              • Apr 2009
              • 1030

              #21
              I've never understood what nexus is, apart from the fact that it has a violet tinge.
              --
              Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse.

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              • kandrc
                Swordsman
                • Dec 2007
                • 299

                #22
                Originally posted by EpicMan
                Or inertia, gravity, "pure force" (are there force hounds in V?). There are many elements that are odd.
                I've always "visualized" "force" as a shockwave, so fundamentally it's sound, but it's a very intense sound caused by something that moves supersonically. So force hounds are big, nasty dogs that "breathe" high explosives. Perhaps they spit nitroglycerin?

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                • Derakon
                  Prophet
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9022

                  #23
                  Originally posted by kandrc
                  I've always "visualized" "force" as a shockwave, so fundamentally it's sound, but it's a very intense sound caused by something that moves supersonically. So force hounds are big, nasty dogs that "breathe" high explosives. Perhaps they spit nitroglycerin?
                  Some kind of fuel-air explosive would probably be better for producing shockwaves. Biologically, perhaps they can spit an aerosol of fats and then induce ignition.

                  The fact that vibration hounds attack by barking really loudly at you has always kind of amused me.

                  As for nexus, a nexus is "a connection or series of connections linking two or more things", so I always assumed nexus attacks forced you to move through some variant of hyperspace, or along ley lines, etc. Basically some layer adjacent to reality that connects points that are otherwise far apart. Why this sometimes scrambles your stats is unclear, but the damage is presumably caused by transporter worms.

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