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Arien is just hell on stuff in the pack. (Say goodbye to your guaranteed escapes.) It's easier to just avoid her without elemental immunity. Pazuzu is the same. (Say goodbye to those rods and wands of teleport other.) -
Back in town after the vault, here's the ladder link. 8 artifacts from this vault; Arkenstone replaced Star immediately, and I ignored Calris, but the other 6 add to my inventory woes. I could really use some help figuring out what to keep.
Pete: I killed Arien back at DL67; wouldn't want to face her without both permanent and temporary fire resist, but with both, I don't remember her being all that much of a challenge. Didn't think immunity was required.
In fact, now that I've killed Osse and Fundin (and Draebor, who was also in this vault and who dropped the necklace of the dwarves), I've killed all the uniques native to DL66 and shallower except Radagast, and none of those native to DL67 or deeper.Leave a comment:
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Fire immunity isn't needed for Osse, but Osse is the most dangerous of the lot. I normally judge that I'm pretty much ready against Morgoth when I can kill unique A without problems.Leave a comment:
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My bad, I was remembering the wrong one. I was thinking of Arien, Maia of the Sun.
I'm confused by the replies I'm getting here.
Pete, Osse doesn't have any fire-based attacks, does he? The spoiler file says nether and water. Why would IM_FIRE be relevant?
Nick, I was asking how to dump terminals *other than the main screen*. ')' dumps the main screen- at least it only dumped the main screen when I used it to post the screenshot in the post you were replying to. I don't see how to dump e.g. the object list from my terminal #4 or the monsters list from terminal #3.Leave a comment:
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I'm confused by the replies I'm getting here.
Pete, Osse doesn't have any fire-based attacks, does he? The spoiler file says nether and water. Why would IM_FIRE be relevant?
Nick, I was asking how to dump terminals *other than the main screen*. ')' dumps the main screen- at least it only dumped the main screen when I used it to post the screenshot in the post you were replying to. I don't see how to dump e.g. the object list from my terminal #4 or the monsters list from terminal #3.Last edited by Gram; January 26, 2016, 23:25.Leave a comment:
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')', and choose html. You can then upload using the Screenshots tab above if you want, and you get the opportunity to connect it to the character dump if your character has been dumped to the ladder.Leave a comment:
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Actually, Maeglin is the one exception who may be easier to kill in a vault if it has limited sightlines, since he can't dig more space to summon. I would almost never kill Osse, although with IM_FIRE, I might make an exception. There are a lot of high level elemental specialist uniques that I just won't fight without immunity because they are too hard on inventory.
As I said, I really have no intention of facing Ancalagon or Maeglin at this point; I was being flippant. All the rest of these guys (hey, I guess Khamul, the Black Easterling must be just out of my esp range since he was there a minute ago) have their native depth at least 8 levels higher than here, and this is about 20 levels deeper than Fundin and Osse's native depth. With Narya it could be almost tempting to try taking Glaurung on, but that undiggable corridor up there is a bad spot for summons.
BTW I had a spot of worry earlier on this level, making my way over to the vault, when a greater demonic Q summoned a couple of horned reapers who started summoning things that started summoning things; luckily the reapers trampled many of their own summons, and after a couple uncomfortable fights I found that staff of banishment and ended that.Leave a comment:
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Not that I disagree with the rest of what you said, but the depth of items dropped by a monster is MAX(monster's native depth, (current depth + monster's native depth) / 2). You are never penalized by killing an out-of-depth monster -- though you are rewarded somewhat for killing a monster that is deeper than it should be.Leave a comment:
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As I said, I really have no intention of facing Ancalagon or Maeglin at this point; I was being flippant. All the rest of these guys (hey, I guess Khamul, the Black Easterling must be just out of my esp range since he was there a minute ago) have their native depth at least 8 levels higher than here, and this is about 20 levels deeper than Fundin and Osse's native depth. With Narya it could be almost tempting to try taking Glaurung on, but that undiggable corridor up there is a bad spot for summons.
BTW I had a spot of worry earlier on this level, making my way over to the vault, when a greater demonic Q summoned a couple of horned reapers who started summoning things that started summoning things; luckily the reapers trampled many of their own summons, and after a couple uncomfortable fights I found that staff of banishment and ended that.Leave a comment:
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Going for broke killing OOD uniques is a mugs game. First, they will drop better stuff at their native depth. Second, "li'ving dangerously" is the generally the same as "dying before the final fight." Kill the uniques at your leisure in a less dangerous environment. Also, many of those are summoners, and who knows what they will bring. Just kill the easy stuff, and teleport everything else away.
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I came back to this character, picked up a few improvements and hit CL50, and have now made it down to DL 80, where I found an *amazing* vault. Went for the stuff I knew would be amazing first and found the Arkenstone, Narya, Ingwe, and the Pendant of the Dwarves. (I'd been hoping for the Arkenstone for a while, since I've been running around with no rLight, rDark, or pBlind, and this is the first time I've found a ring of power.) It's a well-compartmentalized vault so there's not too much danger of getting mobbed, and my legendary stealth meant I could go where I wanted. Also found a staff of banishment elsewhere on the level which I used a few times. Still 120 items and 78 monsters, though, and a few things are starting to wake up.
Here's the monsters that are still around and are worth noting:
Ancalagon the Black (asleep) 8N 11W
Maeglin, the Traito (asleep) 8N 10E
Glaurung, Father o (asleep) 11N 15W
Polyphemus, the Blin (asleep) 4N 3E
Greater titan (asleep) 8S 9E
Ossé, Herald OF Ulmo (asleep) 3S 1W
Fundin Bluecloak (asleep) 8N 10W
Elder aranea (asleep) 6N 8W
Greater basilisk (asleep) 9S 1E
I'm not really in the mood to try taking Ancalagon or Maeglin on. Should I just TO all the other uniques as well just because if they drop good stuff I may well not have any way to carry it back home (depending on how many of the rest of those 120 items already on the floor are artifact or near-artifact quality)? Or take on Osse and Fundin and leave the rest? Or go for broke and live dangerously?
(BTW, is there a good way to dump terminals other than the main screen? For the monster list I took a screenshot, ran the relevant portion through OCR, then had to retype the locations anyways; it would have been faster to just retype it all.)
Once I've finished with the vault I'm going to need to ask for advice about the loot. One question I know I'll be asking- under what circumstances do I wear Narya (or maybe other rings of power in the future) rather than keep wearing my +12 speed and damage rings? Also, I've got too many artifact body armors etc cluttering up my home, but while I think there are fewer circumstances where any of them other than Caspanion or Soulkeeper would be as helpful as the Dwarven Chaos DSM I'm presently wearing, none of them seem to be strictly comparable to any other.
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Once you max CON (18/200+), and have > 600-ish HP, and have either ESP or good detects, just dive to 98 and loot vaults and kill things until you have enough consumables, speed, attack power, and HP for the final fight. You don't even have to wait until clev 50, I'll frequently go after Morgoth after around clev 46 if I have all that I need. You must be familiar, though, with the maximum attack output of the uniques and thoroughly manage your fights to make sure you don't get surprised.Leave a comment:
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I would add that afaik, more speed is always useful, especially against some of the nastier residents of the dungeon. Being able to teleport, even randomly, has saved my ass more times than I can remember. Remember, if you are teleporting away from something that is going to murder you, and you end up next to something that is going to murder you, your situation hasnt really degraded. Generally your teleport will keep you alive, and if you can teleport twice in a row, all the better. Also, if you are getting decent loot, sell it and check the black market for stat potions. You can often get your stats where they need to be with potions instead of having to augment them with gear by the level you are at.Leave a comment:
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For weapon, Glaive of Pain makes everything else you have superfluous.
Of all the middle artifact armours, Caspanion is the best in 99% of cases. Wear it for the con bonus and avoid disenchanters for now. With helm covering resist base, Elros is the best shield atm (consider switching to a shield of preservation once you find one; make sure not to squelch "excellent" shields). Holcolleth for the 2 int and more mana/less fail.
Amulet of trickery, dont worry about regen; it only matters if you go for low turncount. Amulet of weaponmastery is another possible source of rdisenchantment should you find it.
As for rings, with the ability to cast haste self, running around with +20 speed and buffing for fights is the way to go. This means you can replace one speed ring. Since con is covered with the setup I suggest, I would want a ring of strength. The sustain is nice and the damage increase is very substantial when you approach 18/220; eventually, ring of damage becomes the default. You can safely discard the gauntlets of power, since wearing them ruins your manapool; the only type to hold onto is alchemist gloves of power.
Oh and a lantern of true sight offers pblind; you dont have to carry oil, just remember to fill it up when in town.
With this setup, you lose rdisenchantment and gain everything else.
I assume you dropped the town books to pick up more loot. You can discard the rods of detection, rogues have a spell for everything; also, mushroom of vigor can be stored at home (especially if str is sustained).
Staff of destruction: I never carry those, because of the fail chance; I prefer scrolls, either destruction or tele level, for last ditch escape.
Staves/potions of speed: you have haste self in book 4, no need for those, either.
With 25 potions of restore mana accumulated, you can safely drink one if you find yourself in need of mana. You only need a handfull for the endfight.
Edit: lategame rogues have the best buffline in game: for important fights, cast from book 4: haste self, from Scarabterices: resistance and shield, from Tensers: heroism, berserker. And dont worry about deep descent scrolls, you have create stairs spell in Mords. Not only does it allow for a quick dive, it is also a valuable safety measure.Last edited by Estie; December 18, 2015, 13:46.Leave a comment:
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Or use the Glaive of Pain for a huge boost to your damage output.Leave a comment:
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