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  • tprice
    Adept
    • Jun 2008
    • 105

    #16
    another update to my ladder dump.

    Not sure if reading that scroll of deep decent was a good idea or not. sure glad i had a stack of TO rods. kept using them like crazy as nasties i couldn't handle came at me in mixed packs. (8-7 level feeling). i ended up stopping trying to get close to the one corner of the map that i knew had stuff in it.

    Am i right in assuming Cubragol is great for castors that just freed up a ring slot from a speed ring but worthless for a cl40 Ranger since i get so many more shots with a regular bow? The scroll of *Acquirement* that dropped next to it created some really nice bolts for it though

    need to sleep before i figure out gear. suggestions welcome

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    • Carnivean
      Knight
      • Sep 2013
      • 527

      #17
      Originally posted by tprice
      Am i right in assuming Cubragol is great for castors that just freed up a ring slot from a speed ring but worthless for a cl40 Ranger since i get so many more shots with a regular bow?
      Yes, that's correct.

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      • Ingwe Ingweron
        Veteran
        • Jan 2009
        • 2129

        #18
        Originally posted by tprice
        Am i right in assuming Cubragol is great for castors that just freed up a ring slot from a speed ring but worthless for a cl40 Ranger
        Yes, except as a swap for running around speed.
        “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
        ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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        • PowerWyrm
          Prophet
          • Apr 2008
          • 2987

          #19
          Originally posted by tprice
          Am i right in assuming Cubragol is great for castors that just freed up a ring slot from a speed ring but worthless for a cl40 Ranger since i get so many more shots with a regular bow?
          It's not. You will eventually run out of good arrows and switching to melee + Cubragol will be a good alternative. Especially when facing Morgoth.
          PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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          • tprice
            Adept
            • Jun 2008
            • 105

            #20
            Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
            Yes, except as a swap for running around speed.
            Well since my base speed is currently +25 I'll just leave it at home for now and save it for end game as a possible swap after i run out of good arrows.

            Thanks for all the advice everyone!

            PS. what is this i see mentioned about Father Christmas and only showing up if i play at certain times?

            Thomas

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            • tprice
              Adept
              • Jun 2008
              • 105

              #21
              I updated the ladder for MerryJohn.

              What a level! and thats with NO vaults. just a bunch of uniques roaming around... a stupid undead beholder actual gave me the most trouble returning from TO and zapping me for xp loss until i remembered the Banishment staff i had found last trip down. Goodbye e's!

              I think i can ditch my rods of treasure detection now that i have two plain detection rods (one at home). Arkenstone was another nice upgrade that fits in with that decision.

              I finally upgraded my bow after over 30DL and lots of CLs. They dropped BOTH Amras and Amrod in back to back fights. I'm keeping Amras for the +shots I think.

              Have to ponder the armor options.

              I'll stop for the night before leaving the level so i can decide what to take and what to leave behind... Any advice from the peanut gallery is much appreciated.

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              • tprice
                Adept
                • Jun 2008
                • 105

                #22
                See updated ladder entry

                Its raining Artifact Bows since i just found Belthronding.

                Not bad for a quick level played on 2 breaks at work on a slow day.

                Since i just maxed my internal stats and have excellent stealth and speed I'm thinking about reading those scrolls of deep decent to dive down deeper and sneak around offing Uniques and upgrading gear.

                This character is going so well it's scaring me.

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                • tprice
                  Adept
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 105

                  #23
                  Yah, i decided to Dive via Deep Decent scrolls. ended up using 3 of them so I'm down in the mid dl80's now and feeling REALLY nervous again, aka how @ should feel ;-)

                  That last level had the Witch King, Vecna, 2 other Ring Wraiths, and at least a couple more uniques and a bunch of "I've not seen THAT before" normal monsters. My stack of 9 TO rods got a work out and i had to use my rod of Restoration a couple times when they came through the walls at me but i survived OK. The scary thing is even with all those "i dont want to fight YOU" monsters it was only a 7 danger feeling... Going to have to spend a while going slower and picking off uniques one by one.

                  no real gear upgrades, just a few end game consumables really. Oh and a pile of Rubble that gave me a !XP that bumped me over to CL43.

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                  • tprice
                    Adept
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 105

                    #24
                    updated the ladder again. http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=18435 MerryJohn is now my most successfull character by both CL and by DL (far and away there)

                    I finally dumped my trusty weapon of extra attacks for
                    Code:
                      Scythe of Slicing (Holy Avenger) (8d4) (+20,+15) [+3] <+3>
                         Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4350 feet (level 87)
                         
                         +3 wisdom.
                         Slays evil creatures, undead, demons.
                         Provides protection from fear.
                         Sustains constitution.
                         Blessed by the gods.  Grants the ability to see invisible things. 
                         
                         Combat info:
                         5.0 blows/round.
                         Average damage/round: 495.5 vs. evil creatures, 611.5 vs. undead,
                         611.5 vs. demons, and 379.5 vs. others.
                    from what i have read that might be end game viable.

                    its been a busy day with family and while this was a fun few levels to unwind but I need a brain before i sort out my gear stash again...

                    Scariest point on some otherwise boring levels was tiptoeing around the Tarrasque when I spotted him for the first time ever. I got a Probing in but managed to not wake him up.

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                    • Avenger
                      Apprentice
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 97

                      #25
                      That is a tasty Scythe.
                      C(6.3) C Erirbag [Half-Ogre Cultist] L:39 DL:Collector's Cave 2 A+ R+ Sp w:The Long Sword of Karakal (2d5) (+9, +12) (+2)
                      C(TN/Do) W H- D-- c-- f PV s- d+ P++ M?
                      C S++ I+ So B- ac- GHB- SQ RQ V+ F:TomeNET Game Progression

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                      • Derakon
                        Prophet
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9022

                        #26
                        500 damage/round vs. evil is absolutely endgame-viable. Good luck!

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                        • dstyle
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 19

                          #27
                          I'd consider swapping out the ring of damage for a ring of constitution. With maxed con at level 50 you're probably looking at somewhere in the neighborhood of 1000 hit points, which will make the later fights a lot more comfortable.

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                          • tprice
                            Adept
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 105

                            #28
                            I offed a few more uniques and had fun clearing a bubble vault. But i lost my staff of banishment after many recharging in the fight against the Witch King. see updated ladder dump at http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=18435

                            I need to rethink my gear again. especially the ring slots after finding Nanya in a pacman level with LF2-8 :-)

                            Nenya is a given i think, to many bonuses and Immunity to Frost.

                            The Con+6 ring takes me from 850 to 967hp not insignificant but i'm not sure it is worth giving up the RoS+11 or the Dam+15 ring

                            I know speed falls off in usefulness after +30 fast. I need to decide if intrinsic +30 speed is better than the +Dam ring

                            According to Inspecting the +Dam ring isn't effecting my Arrows but it WAS a big effect on my h2h attacks though. Is that right or am i just mis-reading it?

                            Any advise on the rest of my gear?

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                            • Derakon
                              Prophet
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9022

                              #29
                              Originally posted by tprice
                              According to Inspecting the +Dam ring isn't effecting my Arrows but it WAS a big effect on my h2h attacks though. Is that right or am i just mis-reading it?
                              +damage on anything that isn't a launcher or ammo doesn't improve ranged damage.

                              I haven't looked at the speed charts lately, but I think the difference between +30 and +40 speed is something like a 5-6% improvement in the rate at which you get turns.

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                              • tprice
                                Adept
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 105

                                #30
                                hmmmmmm That gives me some food for thought on the ring decisions then.

                                Between the activation on the boots and 2 rods of speed i can probably stash the RoS+11 at home now since i can keep +30 speed up basically all the time. I could swap the rods of speed and TO for book4 but the rods are lighter and don't burn and i get a better TO rate from the stack of rods than i do the spell.

                                +15dam x 5 blows is 75 damage a round from the ring plus any multipliers for slays due to the Holy Avenger. Useful when saving ammo by hacking up lower level trash. I haven't been feeling under HPed so far so i think I'll stash that nice +Con ring for now and go with the damage ring.

                                Since i don't have that staff of Banishment anymore I think I'll swap back to the Cloak Colannon from Thingol. More stealth and a tad bit of speed is nice. Even without Thingol my Dex is maxed and I had all the resists on other items.

                                Nenya gives me ESP so i can swap out Thranduil finally. hmmmmmm I think the Golden Crown of Gondor is my best bed since it fills a couple of resists i was missing (confusion, stunning) and adds a bit more Con adding 117HP for a current total of 967. (also making the Con ring even more un needed)

                                Yah, let me make up a few more branded arrows and dive back in with the new setup.

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