Sling of Buckland

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  • Estie
    Veteran
    • Apr 2008
    • 2347

    #16
    I would wield Eonwe, possibly keep Wrath in the house but no other weapons are keepers.
    Recharge scrolls and annihilation wands are also not worth storing. Either carry and use now or discard, the wands usefullness falls off as the game progresses.
    If you were considering saving it for M, the launcher is a better option for a rogue.

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    • Bimbul
      Adept
      • Sep 2015
      • 140

      #17
      Hmm, I've been wondering about the annihalation wands - other people seem to save them but I agree with you - I had started to form the opinion myself that they're not all that impressive.

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      • Bogatyr
        Knight
        • Feb 2014
        • 525

        #18
        Originally posted by Bimbul
        Hmm, I've been wondering about the annihalation wands - other people seem to save them but I agree with you - I had started to form the opinion myself that they're not all that impressive.
        Annihilation wands are powerful in the hands of a high-device-skill mage where they get a damage multiplier

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        • Timo Pietilä
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 4096

          #19
          Originally posted by Bimbul
          Sling of Buckland (x3) (+14,+12) <+4,+2>

          +4 dex, +1 shooting speed, +1 shooting power.
          That should be +4 DEX and +2 shooting speed and power if that's what the weapon shows.

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          • Ingwe Ingweron
            Veteran
            • Jan 2009
            • 2129

            #20
            Originally posted by Timo Pietilä
            That should be +4 DEX and +2 shooting speed and power if that's what the weapon shows.
            Yeah, but then it would also be x4 in the power, right? Something is off, either in the typing or there's a bug.
            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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            • Bimbul
              Adept
              • Sep 2015
              • 140

              #21
              Typo sorry - just <+4 +1>

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              • Bimbul
                Adept
                • Sep 2015
                • 140

                #22
                All academic until next game now anwway, just got killed by a darkness breath from Ungoliant.
                She hit me with one which took me all the way down to 16 HP.

                Did the right thing and stopped - looked through my inventory - what do I need to keep me alive NOW? I'm blind so can't cast or read - rods had failure rates so I quaffed ?healing. Instantly she fired another and I'm dead. Fek.

                Suppose I should have quaffed my ?*healing*
                But I was saving them - oh wait.

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                • Ingwe Ingweron
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2129

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Bimbul
                  All academic until next game now anwway, just got killed by a darkness breath from Ungoliant.
                  She hit me with one which took me all the way down to 16 HP.

                  Did the right thing and stopped - looked through my inventory - what do I need to keep me alive NOW? I'm blind so can't cast or read - rods had failure rates so I quaffed ?healing. Instantly she fired another and I'm dead. Fek.

                  Suppose I should have quaffed my ?*healing*
                  But I was saving them - oh wait.
                  Unless and until you have both rBlind and rConfusion, you should be carrying a Staff of Teleportation, though even that can get you killed. http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=18231

                  In the situation you were in, blind and negligible hps facing a formidable foe, bailing out is the only decent choice.
                  “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                  ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                  • Bimbul
                    Adept
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 140

                    #24
                    Yeah I never did, in that game get a reliable pBlind or pConf.

                    Mother nature roguelike always seeks out the weakness in @.

                    A good call on the staff of teleportation. I kind of got used to just zap curing rod and mana b - teleport.

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                    • Timo Pietilä
                      Prophet
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4096

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                      Yeah, but then it would also be x4 in the power, right? Something is off, either in the typing or there's a bug.
                      If there are two PVAL:s with same value it shows only once. +4 power or shots is impossible, so +2 would have to be for both of those.

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                      • Timo Pietilä
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4096

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bimbul
                        Yeah I never did, in that game get a reliable pBlind or pConf.
                        pBlind you get from helmets of seeing.

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                        • Estie
                          Veteran
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 2347

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Timo Pietilä
                          pBlind you get from helmets of seeing.
                          Which is in the house because the helm slot is used for telepathy

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                          • Timo Pietilä
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4096

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Estie
                            Which is in the house because the helm slot is used for telepathy
                            Swaps. I use them a lot, later in game helmets of serenity and helmets of night and day if my main source for ESP is headgear.

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                            • Ingwe Ingweron
                              Veteran
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2129

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Timo Pietilä
                              If there are two PVAL:s with same value it shows only once. +4 power or shots is impossible, so +2 would have to be for both of those.
                              I think you misunderstood me, or I miscommunicated, or both. +2 might and shots would be a x4 power sling with 2 extra shots (the dex number happened to be +4, but that's not what I was referring to).
                              “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                              ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                              • Timo Pietilä
                                Prophet
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4096

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                                I think you misunderstood me, or I miscommunicated, or both. +2 might and shots would be a x4 power sling with 2 extra shots (the dex number happened to be +4, but that's not what I was referring to).
                                Misunderstood. I thought you meant sling power.

                                Buckland slings can have both +2 to shots and might making them three shot x4 slings. It is rarer now that those two are separated values so there are more combos to get. When they got introduced it was nearly guaranteed that you found one with +2 to shots and might and with insane to_dam they had made them way too powerful weapons. I protested a lot about them.

                                IMO they are still a bit too powerful.

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