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  • Timo Pietilä
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 4096

    #16
    Originally posted by gglibertine
    That's very close to what I did with my current mage, clevel 25 now at dlev 24. I just managed to kill both Sangahyando and Angaimite of Umbar, and what did they drop?

    Paurnen and Arvedui. USELESS to me at this point. Bastards.
    I have used Arvedui at the endgame. rBasic4, rShard and rNexus combo is useful sometimes when you have things like Belthronding, Thorin and Gondor taking care of rDisenc, pConf, rSound and rChaos and Arkenstone for rDark and rLight (and something non-ring for rPoison).

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    • gglibertine
      Adept
      • Dec 2007
      • 234

      #17
      Originally posted by Bogatyr
      Haha, mages hate non-FA gauntlets! Arvedui's not terrible, doesn't it give Nexus resist? You don't want to get int swapped by a nexus hound or vortex, that's a char killer!

      clev 25 @ dlev 24 is perhaps a bit slow. You have to judge of course based on your equip and how fights are going, but you probably want to drop below dlev 30 to get into proper stat gain range before taking a break from diving.
      I am working a bit slowly but I plan to dive as soon as I get some more cure critical potions. As for Arvedui, it's excellent if your strength is higher than 14...

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      • gglibertine
        Adept
        • Dec 2007
        • 234

        #18
        ...and I died. After fixing myself a nice soothing cup of tea, I decided to try something completely different. Thus I created Nivri, the kobold priest. She immediately ran into Farmer Maggot, who gave up a mace (+5 +2). On dl1 she found a sling of accuracy (+15 +7), dove quickly down to dl5, and found Nimthanc. Which leads me to a question:

        Other than slightly reduced damage, is there actually any other effect to wielding a bladed weapon for a priest, or is that all there is? Because from where I'm standing, Nimthanc looks pretty sweet!

        An auspicious start, at any rate. I think I'll see where I can get with this.

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        • Bogatyr
          Knight
          • Feb 2014
          • 525

          #19
          Originally posted by gglibertine
          ...and I died. After fixing myself a nice soothing cup of tea, I decided to try something completely different. Thus I created Nivri, the kobold priest. She immediately ran into Farmer Maggot, who gave up a mace (+5 +2). On dl1 she found a sling of accuracy (+15 +7), dove quickly down to dl5, and found Nimthanc. Which leads me to a question:

          Other than slightly reduced damage, is there actually any other effect to wielding a bladed weapon for a priest, or is that all there is? Because from where I'm standing, Nimthanc looks pretty sweet!

          An auspicious start, at any rate. I think I'll see where I can get with this.
          Sorry to hear that, what happened?
          Wielding an unblessed edged weapon causes an increase in prayer failure rates for priests. When you're betting your life on a teleport other prayer, there is an infinite chasm between 0% and even 1% fail rate.

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          • Ingwe Ingweron
            Veteran
            • Jan 2009
            • 2129

            #20
            Originally posted by gglibertine
            ...and I died. After fixing myself a nice soothing cup of tea, I decided to try something completely different. Thus I created Nivri, the kobold priest. She immediately ran into Farmer Maggot, who gave up a mace (+5 +2). On dl1 she found a sling of accuracy (+15 +7), dove quickly down to dl5, and found Nimthanc. Which leads me to a question:

            Other than slightly reduced damage, is there actually any other effect to wielding a bladed weapon for a priest, or is that all there is? Because from where I'm standing, Nimthanc looks pretty sweet!

            An auspicious start, at any rate. I think I'll see where I can get with this.
            The failure rate on spells goes up dramatically, though at some point your Cl over-compensates the failure and you're back to even. At the early to mid-levels, a 'thanc dagger is so good that you should be using it as your primary weapon unless you get supremely lucky and find a "priestly" weapon with better damage output. Just remember to take it off before you cast "find traps, doors, & stairs" or "detect evil", etc., then re-wield it. Do this until you see the failure rate is the same regardless.
            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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            • gglibertine
              Adept
              • Dec 2007
              • 234

              #21
              Originally posted by Bogatyr
              Sorry to hear that, what happened?
              Wielding an unblessed edged weapon causes an increase in prayer failure rates for priests. When you're betting your life on a teleport other prayer, there is an infinite chasm between 0% and even 1% fail rate.
              Aha! I knew there must be something else. I'll have to play around a bit and see how things go. (And carry plenty of scrolls.)

              As for my mage, on dl24 she lost both her copies of Conjuring & Tricks and got nailed by Azog when most of her mana was already gone and Teleport Self failed. (She'd been fleeing some other unique after finally succeeding to Haste Self and literally ran right into him.) The strategy... it is not my strong point.

              The kobold is doing well, though! I've never actually played one before at all, and she seems to make a rather good priest. (Also, I've been lucky with treasure so far.)

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              • Timo Pietilä
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 4096

                #22
                Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                lucky and find a "priestly" weapon with better damage output.
                Swaps. One priesty weapon for normal adventuring and one high-damage one against critters that you want to kill fast.

                Good thing is that blessed and *slay evil* weapons both are safe for priest to use and those can contain ESP. Check BM, temple and weapon shop for those every time you visit town. It helps a lot later to have ESP.

                One hint: to ensure that you get OoD asap stop gaining spells at clvl 7, then learn spells from book 3 when you reach clvl 9. That makes it sure that you get OoD at clvl 9.

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