When excellent is better than splendid?

[brbrbr]

Guys, I usually auto-squelch(ignore) non-artifact items once I have artifact equipped.
Do I miss something?
Are there excellent items which are better than splendid?

Potential candidates:
- Mace of Disruption
- Scythe of Slicing
- Ring of Damage instead of Ring of Slaying
- Boots of Speed vs any other artifacts boots
- Sling of Buckhand

[fph]

MoDs and SoSs get their own special squelching category ("great weapons"), although this may not not evident at first. So you can typically squelch the other weapon categories safely.

Boots of speed and slings of Buckland are splendid, if I am not missing anything.

[Derakon]

All that "splendid" means is that it has an effect that's immediately noticeable when you equip it. A Robe of Permanence is excellent; Dwarven Scale Mail is splendid (because of the stat bonus).

[Ingwe Ingweron]

I am cautious about ignoring "Excellent but not Splendid" shields, helms, robes and cloaks. (Don't want to miss out on Shields of Preservation, Helms of Regeneration, Robes of Permanence, etc.)

The new Ego ignore has helped out a lot. You can ignore specific item types while leaving the quality settings alone in cases where you are interested in an item without an obvious effect (aka "splendid").

[Estie]

Cloaks of magi, Lothlorien bows, crowns of magi or lordliness and blessed weapons all can get ESP. Even if I already have a helm of telepathy, I like to have options to be able to juggle better.

Artifact status doesnt mean much regarding quality; while the best items are artifacts, some artifacts are rather mediocre (with randarts, they can be ouright bad).

Crown of might is another superb ego item that has been used in my endgame kits.

With jewelry, egos are more often than not better than the artifacts you find.

[PowerWyrm]

You're forgetting crowns of serenity, which is IIRC the only source of both pConf and pStun excecpt for the Crown of Gondor.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

You're forgetting crowns of serenity, which is IIRC the only source of both pConf and pStun excecpt for the Crown of Gondor.

And if you ignore "excellent with no high resist" you won't see the crown of serenity. One reason not to use quality settings for helms, but instead use the ego ignore menu.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Cloaks of magi, Lothlorien bows, crowns of magi or lordliness and blessed weapons all can get ESP. Even if I already have a helm of telepathy, I like to have options to be able to juggle better.

Aren't all of those "splendid"? They each have obvious effects, and so would be seen even if you ignore "excellent but not splendid". The question was when is "excellent" better than "splendid".

[Estie]

Aren't all of those "splendid"? They each have obvious effects, and so would be seen even if you ignore "excellent but not splendid". The question was when is "excellent" better than "splendid".

They are, but the op was considering squelching everything once he had an artifact, which is not a good idea imo.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

They are, but the op was considering squelching everything once he had an artifact, which is not a good idea imo.

Ah, yes! I see, says the blind man.... I definitely agree with you. I misread the OP, thinking it was what the heading said, not what the post said.

[Timo Pietilä]

Are there excellent items which are better than splendid?

Cloaks of protection. Those have shard resist, and if you lack that it might be better than stealth/aman/magi cloak.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Yeah, when I come across a "splendid" item, I read "splendid" as: "obvious effects, and it might be what @ needs, but it might not." I read "excellent" as: "effects aren't obvious, but it still might be what @ needs, but it might not." And "good" means only pluses to AC, to-hit, or to-damage.

[jrodman]

Not on original topic, but sort of on the drifted topic...

Is it possible to ignore regular Lanterns, but not Lanterns of Sight? I couldn't work out how. Similarly, I was stymied when trying to figure out how to ignore magical pebbles but not regular mithril shot.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Not on original topic, but sort of on the drifted topic...

Is it possible to ignore regular Lanterns, but not Lanterns of Sight? I couldn't work out how. Similarly, I was stymied when trying to figure out how to ignore magical pebbles but not regular mithril shot.

Use autoinscriptions to inscribe mithril shots and lanterns of true sight with "!k"

This will prevent them from being ignored when @ picks them up.

[Timo Pietilä]

Use autoinscriptions to inscribe mithril shots and lanterns of true sight with "!k"

This will prevent them from being ignored when @ picks them up.

I don't think that works with lanterns, because they don't require any kind of ID and don't get autoinscribed. If you ignore them they disappear as soon as you see them. Shots you need to pick up or at least ID to see what they are.

Haven't tested that though, but that's how it works with books.