Scrolls of Acquirement

[tynan]

Hello all. I recently found one of these scrolls in a greater vault (the cool one with the 2 entrances to permanent rock that meet in the center). I'm in the town now and see one for 15k in black market. Playing V 3.5.0
Question: does it matter where you read these to get the best items? Thanks.

[Monkey Face]

Read it in the dungeon, not in town. It will give you a good or great item based on the dungeon level where you read it. (The item will appear under you or next to you if there is already something under you.) However, it's best not to wait too long, lest you run into a fire breather and see it burn up.

Also, are you sure it wasn't 150k it was selling for?

[tynan]

It was a regular Acquirement scroll, without asterisks (*). Also, I have the selling to vendors feature turned back on. I never liked the idea of not being able to sell stuff in this version.
Thanks, I think I'll just keep them in my home until I get close to end game (DL 80+) before I carry them with me to the Dungeon, to minimize risk of loss.

[Thraalbee]

The scroll is not much better than the drop of some monsters at the deeper levels so I tend to read them as soon as I hit the next 10 in dlevel, i.e. 30 or 40 or ..., usually I end up disappointed anyway. But make sure your inventory is not full, that seems to make it fail.

[debo]

It was a regular Acquirement scroll, without asterisks (*). Also, I have the selling to vendors feature turned back on. I never liked the idea of not being able to sell stuff in this version.
Thanks, I think I'll just keep them in my home until I get close to end game (DL 80+) before I carry them with me to the Dungeon, to minimize risk of loss.

In my experience it's best to just use these after recalling to your current DL. By lategame, I think it's pretty rare to get anything worth anything from acquirement.

[Derakon]

The scroll is not much better than the drop of some monsters at the deeper levels so I tend to read them as soon as I hit the next 10 in dlevel, i.e. 30 or 40 or ..., usually I end up disappointed anyway. But make sure your inventory is not full, that seems to make it fail.

The item always appears on the ground, never in your inventory. Just don't read it when there's monsters around.

And yeah, read it as soon as possible. Practically speaking, the odds that you'll get something useful are higher in the early game, when you have less good equipment in general. In the late game there'll be ego items coming out your ears anyway, so Acquirement won't be likely to generate anything special.

[Timo Pietilä]

In my experience it's best to just use these after recalling to your current DL. By lategame, I think it's pretty rare to get anything worth anything from acquirement.

Unless I have just started the game I would wait until I'm at dlvl 1000' (20) or deeper. At that depth a lot of artifacts come in depth and don't have to pass OoD check. Maybe even take a crash-dive to 1000' if I'm close and then back up if I'm not fit to survive that deep.

If it is *really* early I would read it immediately. Even a low-level ego shooter can make huge difference in early survival.

[Fendell Orcbane]

Unless I have just started the game I would wait until I'm at dlvl 1000' (20) or deeper. At that depth a lot of artifacts come in depth and don't have to pass OoD check. Maybe even take a crash-dive to 1000' if I'm close and then back up if I'm not fit to survive that deep.

If it is *really* early I would read it immediately. Even a low-level ego shooter can make huge difference in early survival.

This is probably great advice...because in the early game even a decent ego weapon can be of great help...But I tend tend to read them as soon as I get them...nothing worst than to have a five vortex hit you and have the scroll burn up...

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Maybe it's my imagination, but in my experience it seems like the specific location that Acquirement or *Acquirement* scrolls are read does make a difference. Not just in a vault, but a specific spot in the vault. For example, when you are lucky enough to find a great item (like a Ring of Power) in a vault, reading the Acquirement scroll on that specific spot seems to generate better results than any other random spot in the same vault. Am I just imagining this?

[Derakon]

Am I just imagining this?

Yes, you are. The only place where Acquirement's code references the dungeon tile is when placing the item.

[Patashu]

Maybe it's my imagination, but in my experience it seems like the specific location that Acquirement or *Acquirement* scrolls are read does make a difference. Not just in a vault, but a specific spot in the vault. For example, when you are lucky enough to find a great item (like a Ring of Power) in a vault, reading the Acquirement scroll on that specific spot seems to generate better results than any other random spot in the same vault. Am I just imagining this?

This would actually be kind of cool to implement - the tile gets 'tainted' by the awesomeness of having a unique lay on its humble stone finish, and artifacts find their way more easily to it.

[MattB]

Maybe it's my imagination, but in my experience it seems like the specific location that Acquirement or *Acquirement* scrolls are read does make a difference. Not just in a vault, but a specific spot in the vault. For example, when you are lucky enough to find a great item (like a Ring of Power) in a vault, reading the Acquirement scroll on that specific spot seems to generate better results than any other random spot in the same vault. Am I just imagining this?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgghhhhhhh!!!
Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Now I'm going to have to do this every time I get an Acquirement scroll.
Just...
......In
...........Case....

[tynan]

I recently found (to my delight) an *Acquirement* scroll and read it soon after, and it actually gave me 2 items (maybe even 3, but not sure). I definitely remember 2 items dropping though. Is this only possible with the "elite" version of the scroll?

[Derakon]

Yep. *Acquirement* is identical to Acquirement except you get 1d2+1 items instead of just 1.