Ver 3.09 to?

[Tregonsee]

Now if only I could find an *Identify* scroll, or will a fireball aimed at me will show that
Narya has fire immunity? Remember this is 3.0.9b...

[Derakon]

If *Identify* scrolls exist, then ID-by-use isn't implemented in your version, I'm pretty sure. There was a gap between the removal of one and the introduction of the other (during which you just used normal Identify for everything).

[Tregonsee]

But even though 'identify by use' is not working will the immunity to fire work (it doesn't say anything) or will I need the *Identify* to turn on the fire immunity?

[Derakon]

All items work regardless of whether or not you know what they do.

[Timo Pietilä]

All items work regardless of whether or not you know what they do.

One exception: you need to have basic ID on artifact in order to be able to activate it. If it has activation obviously. Doesn't need *ID* though.

[Tregonsee]

Here is new dump http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=11238

I have killed Sauron, but not Vecna or Gothmog. I have gone to the 100th level, seen
the big M, but did not engage. I think I need more speed. Cubrogol would be the obvious
answer, but any better ring or footwear would do. Suggestions?

[Derakon]

Looks like you've won already. Or rather, the dump you linked is a couple years old.

[Tregonsee]

Sorry, wrong dump- http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=14858

He had Cubrogol, so i thought it would be a good thing...

[Tregonsee]

So ami I too slow or what? I think the other time I was able to use a permanent wall (vault) to restrict M's movement. Maybe he just seems scarier in 3.0.9b compared to 3.2.0

[Tregonsee]

So I found another RoS +10 and am using both of them instead of one and Narya. I went
down to the 100th level, saw Morgoth, fought a little bit, then he summoned a bunch of undead, so I used word of Destruction. They left, but now I can't seem to find Morgoth. Will he show up eventually, or do I need to go back to 99th level and go back down or what?

[debo]

I am pretty sure that destruct will blast him off the level if he gets caught in it. You have to regen the level.

I believe it's customary to TO Morgoth before destructing his summons, that way you keep him on the level while clearing out the dudes. Not sure if this was the same in 3.0.9 though.

[Derakon]

debo's right -- Morgoth is not immune to Word of Destruction. He could eventually respawn on the level if you wait long enough, but it's simpler to just generate a new level. As far as I'm aware this has always been the case.

[MattB]

I've destructed Morgoth off the level more than once, and it's annoying.
I wish it didn't work like this.
Does this happen in FAangband too?

Just wondering...................

[chris]

I've destructed Morgoth off the level more than once, and it's annoying.
I wish it didn't work like this.
Does this happen in FAangband too?

Just wondering...................

Some variants just teleport the boss and set its current hp back up to max. This has the effect of a respawn. I'm not sure what FA does ...

[Derakon]

Certainly, you shouldn't be allowed to freely destruct monsters around Morgoth without affecting him at all; that would be overpowered.