Help with editing p_class

[Malatar]

I was trying to make it so my themed rogue Frodo would start with the Phial. So in the p_class.txt I replaced

E:light:Wooden Torch:3:7

with

E:39:4:1:1

which is the tval:sval from phial in object.txt...

But it just gives me a Phial that's empty. It doesn't create light or have the activation ability. What am I doing wrong? (I'm sure the list is frighteningly immense...)

[Derakon]

The Phial's tval and sval are actually for a "base" phial object that is not the Phial of Galadriel; it just so happens that the only phial that can ever be generated normally is that Phial. There are also "base" stars and arkenstones that can never be generated, so that the Star of Elendil and the Arkenstone of Thrain both have objects to be based on.

By modifying p_class the way you did, you just forced generation of a normal phial. I suspect that the game is not set up to allow for creation of artifacts in initial player inventories.

[Antoine]

Don't do it this way - use debug mode instead. (Perhaps someone can post the exact keystrokes required?)

A.

[Malatar]

Don't do it this way - use debug mode instead. (Perhaps someone can post the exact keystrokes required?)

A.

I know how to do it with the debug mode, but I like seeing my poor, expired characters in the Hall of Fame, and debug mode precludes that...

[Derakon]

You could make the Phial have max commonness, but that just makes it more likely you'll find it -- and I'm pretty sure you'd have to go into the dungeon to get it since I don't think artifacts can be generated in town.

[fizzix]

You could make the Phial have max commonness, but that just makes it more likely you'll find it -- and I'm pretty sure you'd have to go into the dungeon to get it since I don't think artifacts can be generated in town.

Probably the easiest way would be to give an early monster a phial drop (look at Morgoth's entry in monster.txt to see how to give an artifact drop to a monster.) You can give it to grip, fang or farmer maggot if you wanted.

[Derakon]

Probably the easiest way would be to give an early monster a phial drop (look at Morgoth's entry in monster.txt to see how to give an artifact drop to a monster.) You can give it to grip, fang or farmer maggot if you wanted.

Good call. Heck, couldn't you give it to a filthy street urchin? Or would that cause multiple Phials to be generated?

[Knight]

Could you cause the Phial to be generated in the player's house?

[kaypy]

Or would that cause multiple Phials to be generated?

Yes, I just tried and wound up with a dozen phials. Hmm. Does that mean that the v4 auto-drop spellbooks can also be duplicates? Maybe a check needs to be added to monster/mon-make.c/mon_create_drop ~line600?

edit:
Ah. V4 has a check added. (which wouldn't actually help for *this* case, but mostly prevents duplicate spellbooks)

[Derakon]

Could you cause the Phial to be generated in the player's house?

Not without modifying the source code. The house always starts empty.

kaypy: good to know. Oh well! Artifact spellbook drops aren't an issue since they only are dropped by uniques, which you can only kill once.

[Malatar]

Wow, so many great solutions to my problem. Thank you all very much...

I've been playing Angband and previous versions like Moria since 1986 (on a VAX 11/782 at my high school) and it's a real pleasure to see so many people still enjoying it.

Also, the Shockbolt tiles are simply incredible... Can't imaging going back to ASCII now...

[Malatar]

Probably the easiest way would be to give an early monster a phial drop (look at Morgoth's entry in monster.txt to see how to give an artifact drop to a monster.) You can give it to grip, fang or farmer maggot if you wanted.

Hmm, can't seem to get this one. Tried adding these to Farmer Maggot:

drop-artifact:'Phial'

and then I tried

drop-artifact:'Phial of Galadriel'

but couldn't get away from an error parsing the monster.txt file. I'm assuming it's some type of syntax error...

[fizzix]

try:

drop-artifact:of Galadriel

[Malatar]

try:

drop-artifact:of Galadriel

Much obliged, sir...